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« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2006, 10:10:55 AM »
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« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2006, 10:11:03 AM »
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I\'m going to say this, and people are going to hate me, but that\'s fine: The original superman movies were FUCKING TERRIBLE. I can\'t sit through them they are so bad. The chick that played Lois Lane was also crazy ugly.
The original superman films were enjoyable for me in a limited, cheesy way.  They don\'t have a lot of depth in my opinion, but I think that\'s a problem with the superman character in general.  As a superhero, he\'s always seemed a bit boring and even stupid to me.  The dippy boyscout attitude, the flawless character, the invulnerability, the artifical inclusion of ONE gimmick that can hurt him.  Typically stupid DC-style character.  This is why I always preferred Marvel.
 
I would LOVE to see a story about Superman corrupted by his power, gradually slipping over to the "dark side" to become a dictatorial tyrant or a dogmatic inquisitor.  Of course you know that\'s never going to happen... :rolleyes:
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« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2006, 10:11:56 AM »
Spacey wasn\'t the issue, it was the writing for Luthor.

Just a little bit too over-the-top. Okay, very. Luthor is very different in the comics depending on who writes him. Sometimes insanely smart (like in Red Son) ... sometimes just diabolical. This time he was mostly just diabolical.
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« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2006, 10:16:50 AM »
I was in walmart the other day and saw superman 1 for $5.50  I still love it. Although, I like the character they create for Lex in Smallville better than the origional Lex from the movie... Too goofy for a supervillian. At least for my liking.

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« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2006, 10:54:06 AM »
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The original superman films were enjoyable for me in a limited, cheesy way.  They don\'t have a lot of depth in my opinion, but I think that\'s a problem with the superman character in general.  As a superhero, he\'s always seemed a bit boring and even stupid to me.  The dippy boyscout attitude, the flawless character, the invulnerability, the artifical inclusion of ONE gimmick that can hurt him.  Typically stupid DC-style character.  This is why I always preferred Marvel.
 
I would LOVE to see a story about Superman corrupted by his power, gradually slipping over to the "dark side" to become a dictatorial tyrant or a dogmatic inquisitor.  Of course you know that\'s never going to happen... :rolleyes:

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« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2006, 02:18:38 PM »
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The original superman films were enjoyable for me in a limited, cheesy way.  They don\'t have a lot of depth in my opinion, but I think that\'s a problem with the superman character in general.  As a superhero, he\'s always seemed a bit boring and even stupid to me.  The dippy boyscout attitude, the flawless character, the invulnerability, the artifical inclusion of ONE gimmick that can hurt him.  Typically stupid DC-style character.  This is why I always preferred Marvel.
 
I would LOVE to see a story about Superman corrupted by his power, gradually slipping over to the "dark side" to become a dictatorial tyrant or a dogmatic inquisitor.  Of course you know that\'s never going to happen... :rolleyes:


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^^^those old superman flicks were also racist....where were the black folk in those movies?...j/k.....as far as superman flicks go, i\'m not a big superman fan either,...he\'s just a bit much of a boyscout for me...but then again this is how i felt before i saw the other reed films...reed actually made me feel something for the character and the fight scenes in prt two were great for what it was back then. if this recent picture can capture some of that magic from the earlier films, the franchise shows promise,...as far as the classics go, i know i probably couldn\'t watch it like that, but just to see how far the series in general has come, i can see how some may show praise for it....



Hasn\'t anyone seen superman 3?    Richard Pryor had a leading role, (black guy)  and superman gets corrupted by crappy kryptonite. Making him pretty much do anything he wants too.  Was probably the best bit in the film.
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« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2006, 02:32:32 PM »
Ive been trying to find 2 and 3. Most places so far have been out of stock or just suck too much to carry them. I loved all the origional superman movies. And I think we all should pay homage to the dearly departed Richard Pryor.

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« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2006, 03:48:24 PM »
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Hasn\'t anyone seen superman 3? Richard Pryor had a leading role, (black guy) and superman gets corrupted by crappy kryptonite. Making him pretty much do anything he wants too. Was probably the best bit in the film.
Yes, I\'ve seen 3.  It was shite.  Only surpassed in crappiness by 4, featuring John Cryer.
 
Doesn\'t Superman fight himself in 3, like that dual universe Star Trek episode?  That was such bullshit.  (Superman, not Star Trek)
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« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2006, 10:08:00 PM »
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The original superman films were enjoyable for me in a limited, cheesy way.  They don\'t have a lot of depth in my opinion, but I think that\'s a problem with the superman character in general.  As a superhero, he\'s always seemed a bit boring and even stupid to me.  The dippy boyscout attitude, the flawless character, the invulnerability, the artifical inclusion of ONE gimmick that can hurt him.  Typically stupid DC-style character.  This is why I always preferred Marvel.
 
I would LOVE to see a story about Superman corrupted by his power, gradually slipping over to the "dark side" to become a dictatorial tyrant or a dogmatic inquisitor.  Of course you know that\'s never going to happen... :rolleyes:


i agree with you here,...superman is just so-unstoppable,...which is why i prefer marvel as well,..their characters are more human as far as their heroes go and weaker which is what makes them a bit more interesting when they go through the trials and tribulations to defeat their foes....anybody pick up that avengers vs jla from a few years back?...it generally made superman own everybody in the marvel universe...

to be fair i can see how superman can own everybody, but at the same time that is what i hate about him,..he really doesn\'t have no weakness which makes him boring...flash bein faster than quicksilver? i can accept that,..wonder woman got the upper hand on hercules,..and superman basically killed thor....dc\'s heroes i guess are just more powerful in general and they really showed it in that avengers vs jla....
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« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2006, 10:14:02 PM »
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Spacey wasn\'t the issue, it was the writing for Luthor.

Just a little bit too over-the-top. Okay, very. Luthor is very different in the comics depending on who writes him. Sometimes insanely smart (like in Red Son) ... sometimes just diabolical. This time he was mostly just diabolical.


So true. They really need to do the corporate Lex.

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Oh, by the way, Superman has a kid now.

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« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2006, 07:08:02 AM »
LiC: The way he\'s portrayed in the film, the chances of him being elected as president are... :)

At least we didn\'t have to see him in a gigantic robot suit.
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« Reply #41 on: June 29, 2006, 07:38:45 AM »
Lois sucked.  She was probably the biggest downer in this film.  She\'s just a terrible actress and was mis-cast for this role.  It\'s like they spent all their time casting Superman and finding the leading man that they forgot that they needed to cast a CAST of characters and not a single role.

Regardless of that, it was a pretty good film.  Superman was perfect except for his stalking Lois bits.  Just a little too... I dunno.  Something about that bothered me.  It didn\'t fit well into the character.  It\'s kinda like Batman smiling... It just doesn\'t happen.

Everyone should know by now this movie is more remake then it is an actual original sequal.  The main plot, the villain, everything was pretty much recycled right down to Superman flying off into outer space in the end.  Though that annoys me, it also pleases me as it\'s something that gets people refamiliar with the character again as most people casually going to movies and kids had probably never seen the original Superman film.  I just can\'t wait for the next one as now, with the characters established, we can finally kick it up a notch, introduce a villain that can cause some real destruction (and not just bore me with endless camp) and produce a fight genuinely worth watching.
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« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2006, 04:20:09 PM »
Just saw this movie a few days ago. I enjoyed it, but like Ryu said, it seems they spent all their time casting Superman and half-assed everyone else.


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Everyone should know by now this movie is more remake then it is an actual original sequal. The main plot, the villain, everything was pretty much recycled right down to Superman flying off into outer space in the end.
Yeah. Nothing about it really felt "new" to me. I enjoyed Brandon Routh as Superman, though. I thought he did a great job.


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I just can\'t wait for the next one as now, with the characters established, we can finally kick it up a notch, introduce a villain that can cause some real destruction (and not just bore me with endless camp) and produce a fight genuinely worth watching.
Same here.

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« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2006, 07:18:32 PM »
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I would LOVE to see a story about Superman corrupted by his power, gradually slipping over to the "dark side" to become a dictatorial tyrant or a dogmatic inquisitor.  Of course you know that\'s never going to happen... :rolleyes:

Justice League season 2 A Better World, just what you wanted. And well done too and becomes a stepping stone for ... the rest of the JLU shows.
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« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2006, 09:06:51 PM »
The Justice League show is pretty good. Kind of has the same feeling I got from watching the old X-Men cartoon on Fox back in the day.

 

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