UMD on the way out..

who\'s questioning the DS selling power?

Nobody. I was talking about the GBA\'s ports not being a hindrance. Ports in general aren\'t a problem.

If the GameCube had more PS2/Xbox ports, it\'d have been no.2! If it had KOTOR, Ninja Gaiden, and Shenmue II I wouldn\'t own an Xbox.

The DS\' problem isn\'t ports, or loose ports. If anything, it suffers from a lot of multi-platform shovelware just like every other handheld ever made. The DS only makes an appearance in this thread because the PSP is being debated. It\'s the eternal duality all over again.

You can\'t discuss how much the PSP is struggling without talking about how well the DS is doing.

My being a Nintendo fan only adds to this!

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Tekken Resurrection isn\'t a port.   It\'s not on ps2.  It was an arcade update for tekken 5, and it plays beautifully. Like all games I’ve got on psp.

it\'s not that it doesn\'t have any quality games. Notice that all of the games you listed are basically PS2 ports, and not as complete as their PS2 counterparts. Probably more expensive.

The important parts of my message are highlighted.

I don\'t doubt that Tekken 5: Resurrection rocks. I\'ve heard nothing but good things. I\'m sorry if you didn\'t understand that I put a lot of emphasis on one word and use blanket statements.

If I leave the DS and its near-polar-opposite-of-GCN game library (which is a far greater contrast than PS2/PSP) out of this, the PSP is a lot better off.

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If I leave the DS and its near-polar-opposite-of-GCN game library (which is a far greater contrast than PS2/PSP) out of this, the PSP is a lot better off.

Near polar opposite of N64? and i wouldn\'t compare GC/DS games to ps2, you won\'t win.

No, I won\'t win because you\'re clearly playing a different "game."

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who\'s questioning the DS selling power?

Sales = King.

There, I said it. Sales are king the DS is king. All those things you have talked about, such as convergence and extra features, that means nothing if all it does is make the system more expensive and take the focus off games and apparently that is what has happened with the PSP. It\'s over priced for a handheld and it doesn\'t offer the library the DS does.

As for saying the DS has N64 ports, it has one, as Blade mentioned. One port. You can\'t count Animal Crossing: Wild World as a port, it\'s more of a sequel than anything.

Tekken Resurrection isn\'t a port. It\'s not on ps2. It was an arcade update for tekken 5, and it plays beautifully. Like all games I’ve got on psp.

Isn\'t Tekken 5 on the PS2?

Oh and MM, you\'d be perfect in politics. You said something and then try to wiggle your way out of it. Every single quote BS dug up on you, goes to show what faith you had in the UMD format and now what do you do? You do a 180 and try to say you didn\'t .

This one quote kills anything you deny.

they are selling a ton of UMD\'s and even sony was suprised at its success.

remember, sales = king?

Right. They\'re selling so many that they are pulling it off the shelves and Sony is goin\' to abandon it as a movie format.

"all about the games" is dead

convergence is in
just look at cell phones

i bought my PSP to play games, listen to mp3\'s, and watch movies. ergo, versatility.

"All about the games" isn\'t dead and for one reason. Price. It\'s cheaper to manufactor something that just plays games, leaving all the extra stuff and then, espically in the handheld market, cheap price equals sales.

This forum will only tolerate logical, rational, and flat out intelligent conversations. Please leave the ignorance, hatred, and "fanboy" mentality at the door.

I Judge you all... GUILTY!

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I Judge you all... GUILTY!

Fatey: Nah.

This has been a good discussion so far. Pretty easy.

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No, I won\'t win because you\'re clearly playing a different "game."

Instead of talking bs, and throwing things in the air leaving things open to interpretation.  Say what you’re "trying" to say and stop talking shit.
I\'m just wondering what you\'re gonna say when nintendo release a handheld on the same level as GC.

LIC, Tekken Resurrection is not a ps2 game. Tekken 5 is.  Tekken Resurrection is a upgrade from tekken5.

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Instead of talking bs, and throwing things in the air leaving things open to interpretation.  Say what you’re "trying" to say and stop talking shit.
I\'m just wondering what you\'re gonna say when nintendo release a handheld on the same level as GC.

LIC, Tekken Resurrection is not a ps2 game. Tekken 5 is.  Tekken Resurrection is a upgrade from tekken5.

If it is an "upgrade from tekken5" and Tekken 5 is on the PS2 - it\'s a port with a new name. Nothing more. You can give or take features, if it is the basically the same game, which you say it is an update of Tekken 5 and Tekken 5 is on the PS2, then it is a port. Hate to burst your bubble.

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It\'s a arcade port, not a console port. So yea, its a port. Just not a direct console port. It\'s NOT on ps2. It has features that T5 hasn\'t got, characters it hasn\'t got, all new stages etc.

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It\'s a arcade port, not a console port. So yea, its a port. Just not a direct console port. It\'s NOT on ps2. It has features that T5 hasn\'t got, characters it hasn\'t got, all new stages etc.

If that is the case, then don\'t refer to it as Tekken 5 if it has all these things that the Tekken 5 don\'t have.

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Seems fairly simple to me. If you keep goin around saying it\'s an update of Tekken 5, people will assume that it\'s a port of Tekken 5 off on the PS2.



And ports isn\'t really the problem. The problem is lack of compelling games. The PSP has had a serious drought since launch and if it wasn\'t for all the third party applications, most people would of given up on the system along time ago.

nintendo has third party developers?