Insider info that you won\'t read anywhere else

[Paul2]

Interesting that Blu Ray Drive won\'t play commercial dvd using exisiting graphic card due to lack of HDCP on the DVI/HDMI connection...i wonder how is this going to get resolve in the near future though...

Since when is cnet an obscure tech site? :rolleyes: FWIW, Damn near every tech site in existence had the same same story and quotes.

Blu-Ray is ALL about security. One of the main reasons behind the format is to try and curb the bootleg DVD market. Sony is heavily into content control and they have already said that commercial content will be encoded. If this is not the case point me to some sources that say HDCP will not be used for commercial content?

The link you want Black Samurai

Because of the initial backlash against downscanning happening with watching movies with the ICT flag on, Sony, Universal, Paramount, Disney and Twentieth Century Fox, all have said no flag enabled until further notice.  Warner bros is the only studio that will be using the flag, and only if the ICT flag is on do you need to have HDCP to watch in high res.

In ANY event, you will always be able to watch disks at 480p, just not full 720/1080 if the flag is on.  When the flag is off, as it is in releases thus far, content plays in high def over \'unsecure\' connections.

*gasp*

but nooooooo!  we haves to buy teh future harwares! :ohnoes:

Not sure about that since I have a feeling PS4 will still uses optical disc as a standard and they will support the next generation disc format after blu ray which is holographic versatile disc and like the usual, will be backward compatible to blu ray, dvd, and cd formats to playback ps3, ps2, and ps1 games and video.  I do agree that we will see more hd video  being download more to hdd and i like the idea of it, but optical disc format are here to stay for some more time long before another format completely takes over it.

Followup quote from Phil Harrison in a Wired magazine article:

Digital distribution and ultrawideband Web connections have the potential to eliminate the need for discs entirely, yet console makers are still engaged in a disc format war – the PS3 will ship with a Blu-ray drive, and Microsoft is releasing an HD-DVD drive for the Xbox 360. Both companies are even touting the ability of these new discs to play movies in even higher hi-def. That struggle, however, is ultimately meaningless. “I’d be amazed if the PlayStation 4 has a physical disc drive,” Harrison says.

So the P in PS4 stands for Phantom?

[Jumpman]

http://wii.ign.com/articles/725/725674p1.html

cliff notes:

"blah, shit we already know, random fact, blah, propaganda"

[Jumpman]

cliff notes on mm\'s post:

he has a small wee wee

I actually worry about them getting away from physical content.  Online downloads of content will be a heckova temptation for a monthly fee for ANY game that you want to \'continue to play\', since you won\'t own anything.

[Paul2]

Followup quote from Phil Harrison in a

Digital distribution and ultrawideband Web connections have the potential to eliminate the need for discs entirely, yet console makers are still engaged in a disc format war – the PS3 will ship with a Blu-ray drive, and Microsoft is releasing an HD-DVD drive for the Xbox 360. Both companies are even touting the ability of these new discs to play movies in even higher hi-def. That struggle, however, is ultimately meaningless. “I’d be amazed if the PlayStation 4 has a physical disc drive,” Harrison says.

Well, that\'s just him.  He will be amazed when in 7 or 8 years from now when he finds out PS4 will still support optical disc format and I can imagine the support of holographic versatile disc.  Maybe PS5 won\'t use optical disc, but I am pretty sure PS4 still support them.

I\'ve been studying the Core version of the PS3.

It really isn\'t that bad of a deal. Sony has made the point that it didn\'t leave any vitals (*cough* HDD) out of the Core version, and I have to applaud that. Did any serious gamer really get the X360 Core by choice?

Since when is the market made up of only serious gamers?

My point was that serious gamers, by and large, bought the 360 Premium over the 360 Core.

My point was that serious gamers, by and large, bought the 360 Premium over the 360 Core.

That was fully expected, even by Microsoft, as early adopters are willing to shell out cash for the newest tech at whatever price.  That\'s evident given the higher ratio of Premiums to Cores.  However, early adopters, or serious gamers as you put it, don\'t make up the majority of gamers in this day and age.  The casuals, who do mind their wallets, rule.  I highly doubt they are going to care that there is a HDD in the PS3 and thus justify its hefty price tag.  They did, afterall, keep buying HDDless PS2\'s at a staggering rate when the HDD equipped Xbox was released.

Also, since when is a HDD vital to a game console?

The interesting thing is I would guess it\'s the early adopters who are most likely to want to support HD-DVD. Why not adopt that tech early, too?

And at this point, they only need to put out $200 to do so, as opposed to at least $500 to jump on the Blu-Ray bandwagon with the core PS3.

Whatever.