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How big is your sub? If you own more than one sub, list the biggest one.

maller than 6\"
0 (0%)
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0 (0%)
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3 (23.1%)
0\"
5 (38.5%)
2\"
1 (7.7%)
5\"
0 (0%)
6\"
0 (0%)
8\"
1 (7.7%)
igger than 18\"
0 (0%)
 don\'t have a subwoofer
3 (23.1%)

Total Members Voted: 13

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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2006, 12:12:44 AM »
so what do you think about these aluminum cones? Personally, I love them. Infinity and audiobahn have a hold on me. not to mentione that six sided xtant.
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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2006, 12:20:48 AM »
haven\'t had enough experience to really have a answer, but from the first sub i used above, i found it lacking. It just didn\'t have the response i wanted in a sub.  On very low Freq levels it cained, but for anything else it was lacking.
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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2006, 12:21:54 AM »
haven\'t had enough experience to really have a answer, but from the first sub i used above, i found it lacking. It just didn\'t have the response i wanted in a sub.  On very low Freq levels it cained, so was great for most techno, but for anything else it was lacking. The cone just couldn\'t move enough to give good response.
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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2006, 12:44:21 AM »
I just checked my subwoofer specs and realized that mine woofer is actually 10 inches, not 12 inches and i voted 12 inches.  All this time, I thought mine woofer was 12" big.  My woofer\'s amplifier have a power rating of 200 Watts RMS and according to the specs, my subwoofer bass can go as deep as 25 Hz +/- 2 dB.  The entire frequency response is 25 - 150 Hz +/- 2 dB...

I guess the benefits of designing a bigger woofer over smaller one is that it is easier to design one with deeper bass, open, airy, and cleaner sound with lesser disortion than smaller woofer.

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« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2006, 01:32:04 AM »
Bigger woofers have lower freq response, but they tend to be slower at responding. That\'s pretty much why i wouldn\'t bother going above 12inch myself. Some say at low frequencies it doesn\'t really matter. I personally think it does sound different and tends to sound more wofled and droned out. A crisper sub always sounds better then one that just sounds like its having problems keeping up.
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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2006, 03:13:58 AM »
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trunk rattle is something that can be easily fixed

How?
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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2006, 08:27:04 AM »
some cars it can be fixed by simply adjusting the bump-stops on the underside of the trunk lid. More commonly, pick up sound dyna-mat or ex.

There are a few more tricks but all depends on the make of the car.
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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2006, 09:00:27 AM »
Yea, now that I think about it, my rattle is more in the rear bumper. I found by putting weight on the bumper, it stopped. But I don\'t know how to translate that to a fix. Oh well.
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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2006, 10:02:00 AM »
turn your stereo down and be considerate of other human beings?
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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2006, 10:29:55 AM »
I do that when I pass young kids or the elderly. Or cops.
 
I don\'t crank it that often, but when I do, you can go screw with your sensitive ears and whiney attitude.
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« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2006, 10:59:43 AM »
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Bigger woofers have lower freq response, but they tend to be slower at responding. That\'s pretty much why i wouldn\'t bother going above 12inch myself. Some say at low frequencies it doesn\'t really matter. I personally think it does sound different and tends to sound more wofled and droned out. A crisper sub always sounds better then one that just sounds like its having problems keeping up.

Can you elaborate when you say bigger woofers are slower at responding?  How so?

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« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2006, 11:10:22 AM »
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Yea, now that I think about it, my rattle is more in the rear bumper. I found by putting weight on the bumper, it stopped. But I don\'t know how to translate that to a fix. Oh well.



Put some foam strips behind your tag. That will kill alot of noise.
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« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2006, 12:38:01 PM »
Well, if you want to make something that goes down, to say 10 HZ, it needs to make 10 back-and-forths per second, but the problem is the wave needs to be much \'larger\' if you will for low frequency, so the travel on the woofer must be much larger (which is hard to do accuratly).  Usually big woofers are made for big travel/power, but not super-accuracy, so a small woofer which can still go pretty damn low will do a \'better job\'.  

You can get higher quality woofers over 10" but the price goes up really fast.

Generally 15" and 18" drivers are only found at movie theatres and music concerts, you are giving up a \'good quality sound\' for earth-rumbling bass with such speakers.
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« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2006, 12:41:48 PM »
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Can you elaborate when you say bigger woofers are slower at responding?  How so?
Um, I thought that was common knowledge. :p
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« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2006, 01:34:29 PM »
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Well, if you want to make something that goes down, to say 10 HZ, it needs to make 10 back-and-forths per second, but the problem is the wave needs to be much \'larger\' if you will for low frequency, so the travel on the woofer must be much larger (which is hard to do accuratly).  Usually big woofers are made for big travel/power, but not super-accuracy, so a small woofer which can still go pretty damn low will do a \'better job\'.  

You can get higher quality woofers over 10" but the price goes up really fast.
I disagree with you there.  Having a subwoofer that can goes down to 10 Hz is overkill since that\'s beyond the the hearing level of the average human beings and unecessary.  I disagree with you about bigger subwoofers not being super accurate compare to smaller subs.

Its true that higher quality woofers that are big with deep bass are expensive.  But rightfully so.

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Generally 15" and 18" drivers are only found at movie theatres and music concerts, you are giving up a \'good quality sound\' for earth-rumbling bass with such speakers.
i think you got confused here when you mention subwoofers with speakers...subwoofers are invented mainly for low frequency effects, aka bass because speakers can\'t pump out as deep bass since that can require very big speakers and they are very expensive which makes it uncessary to have such speakers.  That\'s why subwoofers are invented to pump out those deep bass only and nothing else.

While speakers are mainly for middle frequency to much higher frequency response as much as 20,000 Hz, and I believe around 10 kHz - 20 kHz are the high frequency response, aka treble.

So, say a big speaker that have a frequency response of 50 Hz - 20,000 Hz, you can listen to musics and movies where it will playback most of the frequency that the human ears can hear.  But what about low frequency response?  Most human ears can hear as low as 20 Hz, but the speakers can\'t go that low though.  So, you will need a subwoofer to playback the LFE.  Most subwoofers don\'t go higher than 200 Hz because that is uncessary because subwoofers are invented to playback the low frequency effects.

If you have a subwoofer that can go down to 20 Hz as its deepest bass, and its highest frequency is 150 Hz.  By doing crossover say at 50 Hz between the speaker and the subwoofer, you will get the frequency response of 20 Hz - 20,000 Hz.  Where from 20 Hz - 50 Hz is created by the subwoofer, and 50 Hz - 20,000 Hz is created by the speakers.

You can do crossover between the sub and the speakers at any frequency that you like between 50 Hz - 150 Hz as an exmaple. since the example subwoofer can go up to 150 Hz, but don\'t do crossover lower than 50 Hz since that\'s where the speakers limit for deep bass is.

This will benefits both movies and music.  I think many music weren\'t recorded with bass as deep as movies, but it wouldn\'t hurt to have a deep bass subwoofer.
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