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Kramer (Seinfeld show) goes off the deep end
« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2006, 03:58:51 AM »
Wow, i never expected such a thing from this one. Whatever the public opinion is, it\'s his weakness to stoop down to such acts. Let\'s hope he comes to insight himself that he made a mistake and that he should improve his deteriorated mindset.
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« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2006, 04:59:42 AM »
Always playing the race card....



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« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2006, 05:03:14 AM »
If it were part of his act, then perhaps...it could have gotten a bit more giggles. But since it was a racist tirade.....well....it\'s all about timing, I suppose. ;)

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I have NEVER seen that happen unless they make fun of white people.


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Kramer (Seinfeld show) goes off the deep end
« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2006, 06:24:54 AM »
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I have NEVER seen that happen unless they make fun of white people.



white guys are on comic view relatively often and have the majority of the kneegrows in tears with racist BS.

andrew dice clay has tackled it a few times.

lisa lampenelli does it

alot of the spanish ones do.

race isnt off limits to just one when it comes to comedians.

Im just surprised that someone who has been in the field as long as he has lost it like that. If he did that now..i can only wonder what was not caught on tape when he was a nobody tryiing to make a name for himself. I know he had to have been heckled more at that point in his life than now.
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« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2006, 07:28:32 AM »
I heard his apology on the radio this morning. He literally sounded like "HOLY SHIT! I CAN\'T BELIEVE I SAID THAT!"

I think his temper just got him insane. No excuse though. When you\'re held in high regard for your past career, you kinda have that responsibility to keep it clean.
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« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2006, 10:06:51 AM »
I stayed up late last night for a replay of Letterman at 2:30am.

He came on during the first Jerry Seinfeld segment and while he was starting to talk Jerry scolded the audience who thought it was a comedy act "Don\'t laugh, he isn\'t trying to be funny"

There is no excuse for that kind of behaviour. I agree with you Gman, he really did sound just in disbelief that he said it.

One thing I will say positive about him tho. He did NOT blame drugs or alcohol. He said this was something inside of him that perhaps he didn\'t know was there and that he has a lot of "personal work" to do. It would of been immensly easy to do what 99% of celebrites do and say "Oh that was the booze talking" or "That was the drugs, not me".

He at least took it like a man and apologized and like I said, offered no real excuse for behaviour because its clear he is aware that well...there is no excuse for that kind of behaviour.
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« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2006, 10:29:45 AM »
How can someone "not know it was there" (inside of him) after what he did?  Richards screamed "HE\'S A NI___ER!!!!" at the top of his lungs about 6 or 8 times.  Not a subtle slip of the tongue.
 
That couldn\'t have come from nowhere, nor could it be some repressed racial hatred in my opinion.  He\'s got to know consciously that he has these beliefs and he\'s been hiding them from the public.
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« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2006, 10:36:04 AM »
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How can someone "not know it was there" (inside of him) after what he did?  Richards screamed "HE\'S A NI___ER!!!!" at the top of his lungs about 6 or 8 times.  Not a subtle slip of the tongue.
 
That couldn\'t have come from nowhere, nor could it be some repressed racial hatred in my opinion.  He\'s got to know consciously that he has these beliefs and he\'s been hiding them from the public.


Yep. And his anger just welled up from within and the only thing he could say to them is the N word. He was clearly miffed that he wasn\'t funny and was called out on it. Then he went insane with anger...and just lashed out at them. He tried to be funny but since it wasn\'t part of his act to begin with, he knew he in a deep hole and dropped the mic and left.

No excuse. A husband who\'s been very kind to his wife all their married lives could one day just snap and back hand her. Damn. Who knows.

But...I still think he went insane with anger and now he\'s like "Oh shit. I\'m fucked."
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« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2006, 10:48:20 AM »
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How can someone "not know it was there" (inside of him) after what he did?  Richards screamed "HE\'S A NI___ER!!!!" at the top of his lungs about 6 or 8 times.  Not a subtle slip of the tongue.
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Theres a lot of things that people don\'t know about themselves until a tumoltuous moment in there lives. He exploded and lashed out in an obscene way.

Obviously there is more behind the scenes than we will ever know before this event happend and the hecklers brought it out in him.

btw keep in mind that i\'m not defending his actions in any way. The african americans in the audience did the right thing and went to the press and now Richards career is over. Nothing more to be said. He had a legendary character on one of arguably the best sitcoms in television history which will now be tainted and tarred by this event forever.

Aside from any physical harm done to the man I don\'t see how this could get worse for him.

Back to my original point tho "How do people not know its inside of them?".

I made a post when I broke up with my girlfriend of 3 years a few weeks back. When that happend, I found a level of anger and rage inside myself that I didn\'t know was inside of me. All it took was one immensly bad moment to push me to the edge. Long story short, that relationship ended with me saying things that
1) I\'ll regret forever because i\'ll never be able to apologize.
2) Things that made me feel like less of a man for saying.

Did I use race as a verbal attack? No, but I said things that before that night I thought I was not capable of saying. No matter how mad I got.

Maybe that isn\'t the best analogy to compare this all to. But I can totally understand losing yourself in a fit of rage and finding things out about yourself that you might not of known were there. Weather its blatant racisim or something else. It can happen.
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« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2006, 11:01:24 AM »
That\'s what I said....but shorter. ;)
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« Reply #40 on: November 21, 2006, 11:02:41 AM »
Maybe they were acting like assholes and needed to be called out.

Sure, he could have called them lots of other things...I dunno...


seems like a lot of fuss over one washed-up actor spewing racial epithets. I mean, who cares? I like all the hollywood c-list coming out saying it\'s "hurtful" and "damaging to the community".... who cares? People get called that word everyday. Mexicans get called spics, asians get called chinks, gooks, whatever....Big fucking deal. It\'s not like the president said it or something....
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« Reply #41 on: November 21, 2006, 11:03:46 AM »
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Maybe they were acting like assholes and needed to be called out.

Sure, he could have called them lots of other things...I dunno...


seems like a lot of fuss over one washed-up actor spewing racial epithets. I mean, who cares? I like all the hollywood c-list coming out saying it\'s "hurtful" and "damaging to the community".... who cares? People get called that word everyday. Mexicans get called spics, asians get called chinks, gooks, whatever....Big fucking deal. It\'s not like the president said it or something....


Shush it, round eye! ;)
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« Reply #42 on: November 21, 2006, 11:10:00 AM »
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« Reply #43 on: November 21, 2006, 11:14:02 AM »
Least no body got hurt.
 
Someone suggested he should\'ve yada yada\'d his apology. That would\'ve at least given him a punchline, heh.
 
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« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2006, 01:18:52 PM »
I still don\'t think that this indicates at all that he actually is a racist. It\'s obvious that he was joking. I mean, a Planet of the Apes reference, and an upside down with a fork up your ass. I mean come on. The fact is that he was extremely pissed off, and took out the most highly sensitive material he could proffer up.

The fact that he was so riled up that it sounded malicious (and happened to repeat it) is the only thing that separates it from the constant "durr durr i\'m surprised teh black man wasn\'t stealing a vcr" type jokes that you\'ll constantly happen across on internet forums. The difference being that he was trying to incite a reaction from these people.

I call bullshit on the "there\'s something deep inside of me that I need to work out" excuse. He told a joke that got him in trouble, and is trying to weasel his way out of the reaction. That\'s the best possible option. The only other options would be to just say "get over it it was just a fucking joke" which wouldn\'t work. Or he could actually go with the racism thing and try and work it to his favour, doing gigs at clan rallies and whatnot. heh
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