PS3 not selling: True or False?

[clips]

well i honestly would have to believe that when the games start to finally build, they\'ll see more sales. i still think sony could have done without the blu-ray gig.....even tho i\'am startin to see them (blu-ray movies) bein\' sold side by side with their dvd counterparts,...on tv....as it is tho price is still an issue with me....for both consoles actually,....i guess we\'ll never see $299 again...

[videoholic]

I\'ve never seen one on a shelf anywhere in Tampa.

I\'ve been to Target several times over the past month and they\'ve always had multiple systems on hand.

i still think sony could have done without the blu-ray gig....

Sony took the gamble in including the high priced blu-ray in the PS3 but early indications are that it was the right move and will make them billions

Before PS3 hit the shelves HD-DVD was outselling blu-ray nearly 3 to 1.  In the months since PS3\'s release in November blu-ray sells have increased and blu-ray sells passed HD-DVD sells for the first time ever in December.  The rumor is that blu-ray now outsells HD-DVD 2.5 to 1 and that margin is expected to get larger as we progress through 2007.  One analyst says he doesnt expect the format war to go very far into 2008 with blu-ray winning.

So that means Sony gets money off of each blu-ray disc sold,  Price drops for PS3 hardware and the cost to make blu-ray discs drop as well.  Developers have plenty of room for games on blu-ray while 2-3 disc long games start to appear more abundantly on 360.

Blu-ray is the right move by Sony, if they win the format war which they should

[Titan]

I bet Sony even saw this anti-playstation sentiment and ridicule people are giving it ahead of time. I bet its all part of their market strategy. They probably will come out swinging with the blu-ray disk.

Yeah they not selling. So now what can I have your?

Yeah they not selling. So now what can I have your?

kopking?

nope, not me

[clips]

so many extreme answers...from some members seeing alot on shelves to some not seeing any. i guess it depends on your location.

Yeah, the honest fact is that it is selling well, just not as good as Wii. Wii throws off the grading scale with its unusual success this early on and makes the solidly performing PS3 look worse by comparison.

Wednesday 31-Jan-2007 SCEA tells the New York Times what we\'ve known for a while now

Sony Computer Entertainment of America spokesperson Dave Karraker has told the New York Times that, "The frenzy we saw at the holidays has subsided a bit[/b]."

Shortly after Christmas it was possible to walk into a US retailer and pick up a PS3 without having to pre-order one, or get up at the crack of dawn and stand in line waiting for the shops to open.

Then we had reports of Japanese retailers knocking 20 percent off the PS3 price in Japan to try and shift units. Clearly this is down to the fact that PS3 is still waiting for a killer app.

He [Karraker] also took time to have a pop at Nintendo, saying "Wii could be considered an impulse buy more than anything else." Thanks for that.

http://computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=156548

Sales for Sony Corp.\'s Playstation 3 incurred a decrease for the third week in a row in Japan according to the latest retail sales data for the region.
Media Create Co. on Fri. reported that the PS3 sold 19,996 units between Jan. 22 and Jan. 28. By comparison, the PS3 sold 21,105 units the week prior.

The system managed to rank one new title in the top 50 software sales, the role-playing offering Enchant Arm.

Sony this week blamed the PS3 for a five percent decrease in third-quarter earnings. The company cited start up costs and a price cut in Japan prior to its release.

http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=3708

Takao Yuhara, has told AP in an interview that the loss could in fact be more than the 200 billion yen (approx $1.6 billion) that Sony has currently forecast for the financial year ending March.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6165103.html?tag=latestnews;title;2


Make of it what you will, but I don\'t think we\'ll be seeing any more $500/600 consoles from Sony ever again.  In related news...

The videogame publisher with the largest market share in PlayStation 3 titles reported today that sales of games for the platform were less than expected during the holidays.

During a conference call elaborating on financial results for the quarter ended Dec. 31, Electronic Arts executive VP Frank Gibeau said the publisher was "disappointed" at the tie-ratio of PS3 games sold to each system purchased.

EA holds a 32% share of PS3 game revenue based on $41 million in orders from retailers and distributors (900,000-plus units at $44.99 wholesale) through the holiday quarter.

That\'s many fewer games than sold during the Xbox 360 launch in 2005. Then, the publisher filled orders for Xbox 360 games totaling $76 million (1.69 million units at $44.99 wholesale). Both platforms suffered from manufacturing problems that kept supplies extremely tight at launch.

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6412824.html

Anybody who thinks that PS3 is doing great is only lying to themselves.  It\'s clearly not the blockbuster everyone thought it would be (including myself).  It\'s not all bad though, and I think Sony will pull out of it fine in a couple of years...after some price drops.

1 - I\'m not worried about low Japanese sales,  when the number of 360s being sold a week is probably in the hundreds

2 - Why does EA have low sells on the PS3?  Their PS3 games SUCK.  NFS Carbon is a joke and Madden 07 is a downgrade from the PS2 version

3 - Sony is selling enough PS3s to tip the high-def format war in their favor.  Sony will have no regrets releasing the PS3 for $600 because without PS3 blu-ray would be on the path of the dinosaur

And what would you consider blockbuster sells?  The idea that you can find it in supply 2 months after launch is no indication of weak sells.  Some moron on the web said the sales clerk looked surprised when he bought a PS3 so he now knows for sure PS3s are not selling :rolleyes: .  Idiots like this are spreading lies and rumors throughout the web because the following posts agreed.

The PS3 is futureproof and has lasting appeal.  Once the frenzy over the Wii\'s gimick controller is over its sales will flatline.  PS3 is only going to gain steam over time.

Riku and clowd, bottom line, I see you both as saying the same thing. PS3 will do fine. I agree

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070202-8760.html

As of the end of 2006, only 695,000 consumers owned either a Blu-ray or HD DVD player. 270,000 of those were HD DVD players; the other 425,000 were Blu-ray. The overwhelming majority of Blu-ray players are PS3s—only 25,000 standalone Blu-ray players had been sold at year-end. Just over half of the HD DVD players sold were Xbox 360 add-ons.

[Viper_Fujax]

i actually thought (and still think) the ps3 would put blu-ray over the top and make blu-ray win. That is after the ps3 gets good games and even a price drop. I mean..im going to get a ps3..but not for a while.

Anyone think there\'s a possibility that they both exist? Kind of like Ps3 and 360? does one necessarily need to fall off the face of the earth? can i ask 4 questions in a row? you tell me...