How crazy is this?

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Now before i get into this,...let me just say that i got luv for my latino peeps, but reading this story is just crazy, it\'s about the national guard and border patrol. Long story short...the national guard encounters some illegals on their way back to mexico, wearing automatic weapons and bullet proof vests and ski masks, and the national guard retreats without firing a single shot....agh this article states that the nationality of the perps were unclear. anyway i heard on the news that they were wearing ski masks, so before i ASSume they were latino, i\'ll take that back. Point is tho why have the guard down there if they are just going to do nothing or retreat when confronted?


 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070131/ap_on_re_us/border_soldiers;_ylt=Al1wj7BT.x9ZWTl_fzmN9pBH2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MjBwMWtkBHNlYwM3MTg-

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from what i read, their hands are tied. They can\'t do anything until they get the clear to do so.

Yup..they are just a "show" of force. The idea was something along the lines of more visible bodies with weapons would deter....

It\'s only a matter of time until all of the mexicans figure it out.

For the record...if they all ahd masks, body armour and automatic weapons..Im guessing drug smuggling if anything.

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My dad has some ties to the Guard on the border and he says that they can\'t do anything. They aren\'t allowed to fire unless they get fired at. My personal opinion is they should be given LTL (less than lethal) weapons, make them look like real weapons and get them down some way without killing them. I\'ve looked at some of the weapons online and shit, and they have some crazy weapons out htere that do the job and don\'t kill.

Actually, this is more crazy:

http://www.voanews.com/english/2007-01-18-voa2.cfm

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That\'s messed up. There\'s one less drug smuggler. Who cares. This country is messed up. When a criminal can put law officers in jail when the criminal is doing something illegal, thats when its time to change something.

That\'s messed up. There\'s one less drug smuggler. Who cares. This country is messed up. When a criminal can put law officers in jail when the criminal is doing something illegal, thats when its time to change something.

Oh but that article left out the best part.  The drug smuggler is now suing the US Government for $5 million... for getting shot in the ass.  

There is also this case which is even more absurd:

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20070202-124744-1388r_page2.htm

Jerry Seper, Washington Times

February 2, 2007

(Excerpt)

A Texas deputy sheriff who fired shots at a fleeing vehicle after the driver tried to run him down faces 10 years in prison for injuring one of the passengers, a Mexican national being smuggled illegally into the United States.

The U.S. attorney, who won lengthy prison terms last year for two U.S. Border Patrol agents in the shooting of a drug-smuggling suspect, also prosecuted Edwards County Deputy Sheriff Guillermo F. Hernandez, who is to be sentenced next month.

The deputy\'s boss, Sheriff Donald G. Letsinger, said his officer -- who had been on the job for a year -- "followed the letter of the law" in defending himself in the April 2005 incident and questioned why the government brought charges.

"This is a fine young man, and I just don\'t believe he committed the wrong of which he was accused," Sheriff Letsinger said. "I have never had anything hurt me so badly as this prosecution. We\'ve got to make this right."

Rep. Ted Poe, Texas Republican, called the prosecution and conviction of Hernandez, known to his friends as "Gilmer," "another example of how the federal government is more concerned about people [who are] illegally invading America than it is about the men who protect America."

"Once again, our government is on the wrong side of the border war," Mr. Poe said.

The deputy\'s Dec. 1 conviction has enraged his hometown of Rocksprings, Texas, population 1,250, where "Free Gilmer" signs have been posted. The Baptist church is paying the deputy\'s mortgage and others have come up with costs for the family\'s truck, propane and water bills.

Hernandez, 25, and his wife, Ashley, have a 4-month-old daughter.

"The town is outraged that this has happened to our deputy," said the Rev. Albert Green, pastor at the First Baptist Church. "Those people were in this country illegally, and they tried to run him down. They were the criminals, but the prosecutors made our deputy out to be the criminal.

"I do not know a single person who doesn\'t feel Gilmer was prosecuted for doing his job," said Mr. Green, who is the deputy\'s pastor. "I do not know a finer, more well-behaved gentleman. He would not purposely or willfully hurt anyone."

U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton, appointed in October 2001 by President Bush, said Hernandez fired shots at the vehicle as it sped away "knowing it was occupied with the nine individuals," at least seven of whom were illegal aliens -- some of whom later were called to testify for the government.

Hernandez was convicted after a jury trial in U.S. District Court in Del Rio, Texas, 75 miles southwest of Rocksprings -- found guilty of violating "under the color of law" the civil rights of Maricela Rodriguez-Garcia, a Mexican national.

The woman was struck in the lip by bullet or other metal fragments after an 11:50 p.m. traffic stop in Rocksprings in April 2005. Reports said Hernandez fired shots at the blue Chevrolet Suburban\'s rear tires as it sped off after being stopped for running a red light.

Acquitted on a second count regarding injury to another passenger, he will be sentenced March 12 at the Del Rio court.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Bill Baumann, who prosecuted the case, told reporters that the law does not give law-enforcement officers the right to use "deadly force to stop a car unless it poses an imminent threat to the officer or another person. If the car is going away from you, it\'s not even a close call."

Mr. Sutton\'s office convicted Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos, 37, and Jose Alonso Compean, 28, on charges of causing serious bodily injury, assault with a deadly weapon, discharge of a firearm in a crime of violence and a civil rights violation. They were sentenced to 11 and 12 years, respectively.

Shana Jones, spokeswoman for Mr. Sutton, did not return calls for comment yesterday...

This is the same guy Bush appointed who prosecuted the 2 border agents.  What is Bush doing about this?  Nothing - he is too chicken shit that he might offend our neighbors to the south.

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Giga, all I can say is that is absurd.

After hearing from a certain someone that he has seen a list which under his great surprise in it showed that almost every latin-american politician was a secret CIA agent and that CIA does drug smuggling in latin-american areas perhaps this isnt that strange (the last I got it from a different source).

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After hearing from a certain someone that he has seen a list which under his great surprise in it showed that almost every latin-american politician was a secret CIA agent and that CIA does drug smuggling in latin-american areas perhaps this isnt that strange.

1)almost all Latin American leaders/politicians were secret CIA agents

2)CIA does drug smuggling

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1)almost all Latin American leaders/politicians were secret CIA agents

2)CIA does drug smuggling

And what conspiracy theory website or drug trip did you deduce this from?

None. I ve heard it directly out of a proffessor\'s mouth whose sources arent "the internet or drug trip".

Besides, its funny that you believe stranger happenings posted in this very thread (Hello internet/websites) but the last sound stranger and unbelievable to you?

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None. I ve heard it directly out of a proffessor\'s mouth.

Besides, its funny that you believe stranger happenings posted in this very thread (Hello internet/websites) but the last sound stranger and unbelievable to you?

Wow, just because a professor says it, it has to be true. I have had such crazy professors that said off the wall things. I had one talk about his out of body experiences. If you can get a masters degree, you can be a professor. If you have enough motivation, anyone can get a masters degree. I don\'t believe either of what you said. I seriously think I got dumber reading it. I\'m being totally seriously now. You\'re posts are not making any logical sense and what you are saying are seriously the stupidest things I\'ve read on this board.

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