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« Reply #45 on: April 11, 2007, 08:02:07 AM »
I saw the origal star wars 17 times. caught things i missed every time.

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« Reply #46 on: April 11, 2007, 08:18:24 AM »
To bad they took down all the clips  here

I wanted to save them before they dissapeared
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« Reply #47 on: April 11, 2007, 09:31:10 AM »
Yeah :( they were up for longer than I expected tho
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« Reply #48 on: April 11, 2007, 09:46:26 AM »
I ve seen the movie a few weeks ago.

Loved the art direction but in terms of history it was a disgrace.

Too many historical mistakes and too many exaggerations.

I also disliked how the Persians were presented as barbarians, corrupted savages and monstrosities when in reality they had one of the oldest and most glorious ancient civilizations
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« Reply #49 on: April 11, 2007, 10:20:10 AM »
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I ve seen the movie a few weeks ago.

Loved the art direction but in terms of history it was a disgrace.

Too many historical mistakes and too many exaggerations.

I also disliked how the Persians were presented as barbarians, corrupted savages and monstrosities when in reality they had one of the oldest and most glorious ancient civilizations


Historical accuracy was the last thing this movie was going for. I don\'t get why people don\'t understand that Frank Miller was simply inspired by the battle of thermopalye and everything else came from his imagination.

Thats why it had rhinos 10 times their normal size, a troll / cyclopse thing, a dude with swords for arms, Electric guitar rock rift playing during the fight scenes and nine inch nails playing in the trailers.

Its a comic book movie.
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« Reply #50 on: April 11, 2007, 10:24:35 AM »
It\'s historically accurate. Rhinos were bigger then.
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« Reply #51 on: April 11, 2007, 10:38:24 AM »
it\'s probably a coincidence that whenever those exaggerated animals/characters came on screen, the guy re-telling the story to the people was talking while it was going on......

interesting...
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« Reply #52 on: April 11, 2007, 10:41:33 AM »
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It\'s historically accurate. Rhinos were bigger then.


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« Reply #53 on: April 12, 2007, 03:21:25 AM »
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Historical accuracy was the last thing this movie was going for. I don\'t get why people don\'t understand that Frank Miller was simply inspired by the battle of thermopalye and everything else came from his imagination.

Thats why it had rhinos 10 times their normal size, a troll / cyclopse thing, a dude with swords for arms, Electric guitar rock rift playing during the fight scenes and nine inch nails playing in the trailers.

Its a comic book movie.
I know it was based on a comic book and personally I believe it should have remeained a comic book.

I dont care if Frank Miller was inspired by it and made a fantasy comic based on it. I take such creations seriously.

 He could have given credit to both civilizations, show their real character and at the same time use his imagination.

 The exaggerations isnt necessarilly the imagination. But how he used that imagination. He alienated the civilizations completely. He could have kept the rhinos, he could have kept Ephialtis\'s appearance since ephialtis in English is translated to Nightmare and to show his corrupted, disgusting mind and treachery, as well as other imaginary elements without completely destroying their character.

 But his "imagination" went out of proportion, presenting a false impression of each civilization and such alterations in history are a "sacrilege" to human history. There was almost nothing "Greek" or "Persian" in either sides

 Most importantly he failed to depict the glory of each civilization, he failed to transmit their virtues and even some important events were completely taken out or misused. It looked like another attempt to commercialize culture and hisory in order to sell and shows no respect to the historical event.

 Historical inaccuracy wasnt refering to the "imaginative" part either. But the events themselves. For example the fight inside the thermopyles was what made that particular event so much known in books. Yet Leonidas\' strategy wasnt succesfully shown and neither did the fight occure inside the thermopyles other than a few moments in the beginning. Also what annoyied me was that there was no use of his words "Molon Lave\' ". It was translated to "come and get us", which completely loses the power of the ancient saying which is important. The translation makes it sound like a commonly used line in thousands of cliche\' movies.

What the hell happened to Xerxis?





That movie reminded me sometimes of the Xena and the Hercules series.
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« Reply #54 on: April 12, 2007, 04:01:44 AM »
Look how cool my new avatar is.

Fucking right.
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« Reply #55 on: April 12, 2007, 04:15:14 AM »
Uni you do know that exaggerations in the story were explained by the in-movie narrator exaggerating the tale to impress the others, right?
 
Also, by your logic he could have taken the opportunity to create a historical reenactment of the U.S. Civil War. He could\'ve done anything. But he made a fantasy movie.
 
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« Reply #56 on: April 12, 2007, 06:14:15 AM »
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Uni you do know that exaggerations in the story were explained by the in-movie narrator exaggerating the tale to impress the others, right?
 
Also, by your logic he could have taken the opportunity to create a historical reenactment of the U.S. Civil War. He could\'ve done anything. But he made a fantasy movie.
 
You\'re weird with what you get stubborn about.


This is truth.

Now I don\'t have 4 paragraphs written up to debate you Uni so i\'ll just say this.

Its a comic book movie. I have no idea what you were expecting. If you watched a single trailer about the movie then you would know what you were going into.

The history channel did a nice documentary called "The Last Stand of the 300". Perhaps that would of been something more tuned to your enjoyment.
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« Reply #57 on: April 12, 2007, 06:35:59 AM »
I really don\'t know about the historical significance, i just enjoyed the movie

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« Reply #58 on: April 12, 2007, 08:37:03 AM »
Well that\'s why it was made... it\'s not a documentary and by no means is it supposed to be. It\'s just a cool, violent, homo erotic extravaganza.
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« Reply #59 on: April 12, 2007, 12:09:40 PM »
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Uni you do know that exaggerations in the story were explained by the in-movie narrator exaggerating the tale to impress the others, right?



i only said that shit twice lol
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