thoughts on imus?....

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even tho i don\'t watch his show, the times i have come across it, it seems like he\'s mumbling over the mike...i\'m sure most of you have heard the comments he\'s made...my take on this?....should he be fired?...yes he needs to go. even tho his show is known for takin\' shots at all ethnic groups, once you cross that racial line you need to go....now i know alot in here will say "but alot of the rappers say hoes on the regular" which is true and again like i\'ve stated in other racial threads, that will always be somethin\' that will bite black folk in the end....

that said tho, when rappers generally speak of hoes i do think that they are referring to afri. american women in general, but on a broader scale i feel they are talking about all women. on another note if al sharpton and crew feel this need to hold rallies and protest, they need to step to some of these rappers that are promoting all kinds of negativity in these videos glamorizin\' drugs and money and living in a world where it\'s ok to call the average women a hoe. Yet you will not see either sharpton or jessie "mr keep hope alive"..doing anything of that nature...

don\'t get it twisted tho i still luv my rap and hip-hop and to some degree i understand why and how that drug hustle can be so addictive money wise...waay back in my youth i used to hustle cocaine, and trust the money is quick and fast...but like i said if afri. americans continue to use words like hoes and nigga in their songs this will do nothing but give white folk continuious ammo whenever a scenario such as imus\'s comes up....and the argument of "we can use those words but they can\'t" is pure ignorance...nobody should be usin those terms at all.

now the one thing that rappers are not sayin in their songs are terms like "nappy headed" and clearly that is a racist remark....no afri. american will  greet each- other on that term on any level...that remark is something that reflects imus\'s inner racial feeling on afri\' americans on some level...regardless if he was joking or not, he needs to be fired.



http://entertainment.yahoo.com/entnews/va/20070409/117615972300.html

Eh, he shouldnt have said it... But I gotta admit, first time I heard it I chuckled.


Mainly cause the guy in the background who went "ohhhhhhhh" right after he said it.

I\'m sure he knew he was screwed the second after it came out of his mouth.

i guess it\'s ok when flava-flav says stuff like that.

love seeing al sharpton profit over it, however

100% behind the ol\' mumbler on this one. Freedom of speech, baby.

Plus he\'s awesome. Over the hill, but awesome.

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^^^that\'s a negative...freedom of speech is one thing, but when you\'re in a public forum of his nature and you start throwin\' around hurtful racial terms like the kind he stated whether he was talkin\' bout jews, afri. americans indians or whatever, you need to be removed...yea you can say what you want, but you also need to understand the consequences of your actions...

[Jumpman]

Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, some dumb ass black reverends getting a lot of press for this.

I saw Imus on the Today Show and he made a convincing argument. He\'s on a comedy show for one. What he said was funny. He didn\'t drop an N-Bomb, and like he said, black rappers say things like this all the time in their music. I think he was just desensitized from the huge outburst of similar expressions and forgot he was white for 5 seconds. Imus has a lot of credibility so he\'s definitely not going anywhere, more than Sharpton or Jackson who are just hop on the bandwagon when situations like this occur.

Both the Revs need to be fired.

99% of the people that will talk about this issue do not listen to his show.  It\'s just free press for everyone.

at least this was entertaining.....



tis\' a shame the video doesn\'t continue because he starts making funny faces at the camera.

[videoholic]

I thought what he said was just a tasteless joke.  Nothing to be fired over.  Al Sharpton is a bumbling idiot even more than imus.

Clips I\'m pretty sure what he said wasn\'t racist. Did he call them nappy haired hos?
 
The ho part is sexist.
 
The part where he made fun of their hair? That\'s a gradeschool insult.
 
But it wasn\'t racist. If I say Donald Trump\'s hair looks like a bird threw up on his scalp, I\'m not racist.
 
If I call Rosie O\'Donald a fat ho I\'m not racist, I\'m sexist, or, a realist.
 
I didn\'t think anything of this story until this morning. I heard on the radio that the team finally spoke about the "issue". And I thought, Good they\'ll put this thing to rest and say it\'s no big deal.
 
Nope.
 
They said, quote "It was despicable, deplorable and abominable."
 
Abominable.
 
Racists.

lol, i watched the press conference with the the team.

the white girls from the team standing there looking confused was priceless.

and the black team captain saying "i\'d like to axe him (imus) a question"  :rofl:

stereotypes exist for a reason

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c\'mon..Eik, i know i wrote alot in that first post, but i explained everything you just described....anytime you refer to afri. americans as "nappy headed"...that is a racist remark, and in the tone he put it in had racial tones all over the place....him callin them hoes didn\'t really bother me for reasons i already listed, but he needs to be fired, now does that mean he\'ll be off the air permanently?...no..he\'ll just go find work somewhere else....but msnbc needs to show that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated....2weeks?..that\'s bulls**t.....i\'ve stated plenty of times, that i\'m a fan of the lighthearted racial stuff, we all do it, but when it comes to the point to where it\'s insulting or hurtful, he needs to be canned....

Clips, please. Think about what you\'re saying.

Do we really need fascism on the airwaves?

[Jumpman]

I think these two videos go hand in hand with what you\'re talking about, Blade.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xlyhewSQM8o

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dFE3vFiJBUw

c\'mon..Eik, i know i wrote alot in that first post, but i explained everything you just described....anytime you refer to afri. americans as "nappy headed"...that is a racist remark, and in the tone he put it in had racial tones all over the place....him callin them hoes didn\'t really bother me for reasons i already listed, but he needs to be fired, now does that mean he\'ll be off the air permanently?...no..he\'ll just go find work somewhere else....but msnbc needs to show that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated....2weeks?..that\'s bulls**t.....i\'ve stated plenty of times, that i\'m a fan of the lighthearted racial stuff, we all do it, but when it comes to the point to where it\'s insulting or hurtful, he needs to be canned....

I hear you clips, but I just have such a different opinion on this one.
 
I guess if it was a Chinese team, he would\'ve called them slanty-eyed hos. And when I think of that one, I see it more as a racial thing, so maybe you\'re right.
 
But I also don\'t care. I just honestly don\'t care that Don Imus called a black woman nappy haired. I don\'t care if he calls me pale-skinned, our president half-retarded or an Asian person slanty-eyed.
 
It\'s an adjective, and if a person with nappy hair is insulted by having that pointed out, then that is their character flaw, not Imus\'s. Imus\'s flaw may be that he\'s a prick, but for his profession, that\'s hardly a crime.
 
He\'s a has-been shock jock. His remark is inconsequential, unimportant, hardly offensive, and the whole thing is just so blown out of proportion in my mind that it\'s a sad reflection of how paranoid we are. The fall out from it is much more offensive to me than anything Imus said.
 
I don\'t think he should face any punishment. Actually, he should be rewarded for managing to bring his name back after how many years of obscurity? His ratings no doubt have gone up and his bosses should be pleased.
 
The only reason this is an issue is because he\'s white and they\'re not. White people are not allowed to make fun of black people. If he crossed a line, my problem is with that line, not with him crossing it.
 
We\'re way to sensitive to stupid shit like this. A lot of humor puts people at the butt of a joke, and just because this clown isn\'t very funny doesn\'t make him exempt from that rule of comedy. If we can\'t have a sense of humor about ourselves even a little bit, then I think something is wrong with us. And I think we can judge our sensitivity by whether or not being called nappy-haired offends us.
 
To me, it just doesn\'t matter. I\'m all for equality and I\'m halfway for political correctness, but I just think this one is silly.