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Square Enix: new generation too hard
« on: June 13, 2007, 02:59:08 AM »
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Square Enix Chief executive Yoichi Wada believes the Microsoft Xbox 360 and Sony PlayStation 3 are too complex, while the Nintendo Wii is the ideal game platform for Square Enix games.  

The hardware power of the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 are "over-engineered" and "there are too many specs -- and you also need a high-definition TV, a broadband connection, and a deep knowledge of gaming--these consoles are mismatched to today\'s environment.  In a year or two years, they will fare better," Wada added.


http://www.dailytech.com/Square+Enix+CEO+Xbox+360+and+PS3+are+Overengineered/article7657.htm

IMO: pussy. Good developers have created software that came out winner over others product in the gaming (and software) industry last decade are developer that have dreamed, slept and feed of technology.

Square are aiming for easy money instead of trying to create something innovative.
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2007, 03:04:06 AM »
Developers depend on ease, they want a platform that they can pump shit out of with little effect.


meet, the wii.
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2007, 03:13:47 AM »
Lol, exactly what is going to change in 1 to 2 years? Get working already, this isn\'t the 80\'ies anymore.
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2007, 03:33:16 AM »
quantity > quality
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2007, 05:16:19 AM »
I hope that Square-Enix brings some RPGs to the Wii. And X360.

I\'m sick of the PS2/PS3 being the "RPG" platform.
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2007, 06:58:37 AM »
Makes sense. Takes assloads of times and resources to develop these games on 360 and PS3 and in the PS3\'s case not enough people own the system to buy the games. Wii is cheap, the most popular console, therefore, the best and most profitable to develop for.

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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2007, 07:51:47 AM »
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Makes sense. Takes assloads of times and resources to develop these games on 360 and PS3 and in the PS3\'s case not enough people own the system to buy the games. Wii is cheap, the most popular console, therefore, the best and most profitable to develop for.

Go Nin.

100% agree but, in the end, the consumer is loosing. As MM said, Quantity > Quality. This is just like EA that wouldn\'t support "widescreen" in their games.. too lazy and too cheap to spend time and money on their products.

There will be so many people that own a X360 and PS3 in 2 years that square will bite their toes when they realisze they lack the experience to reach this market.
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2007, 08:13:30 AM »
Here we go.  Square coming back to Nintendo with actual games would go a long way for Nintendo\'s longer-term game plan.
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2007, 12:08:14 PM »
Man games really aren\'t the way they use to be like back when I first joined this site.

Maybe I was young and naive but there was some artistry in games, and the market was not constantly flooded with shit. I\'ll always hold the original Playstation as the best generation for games.

Now its just become very apparent, even from the companies that I use to trust that its all about money. Can\'t trust the developers anymore.

Like Blizzard and its World of Warcraft Mastercard.
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2007, 01:59:45 PM »
the playstation was flooded with shit also.  You can\'t knock a developer for wanting to make money.  The problem is that these developers know they can produce a pile of shit and people will still buy it up because its next gen.  There is no reason for the developers to put quality into their work at this point in time.  You can\'t get pissed at a corporation for wanting to make money, thats silly.
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2007, 08:55:38 PM »
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the playstation was flooded with shit also.  You can\'t knock a developer for wanting to make money.  The problem is that these developers know they can produce a pile of shit and people will still buy it up because its next gen.  There is no reason for the developers to put quality into their work at this point in time.  You can\'t get pissed at a corporation for wanting to make money, thats silly.



meh i agree to a point, but square has the resources to make a quality product on the ps3 and 360...to me it seems like they\'re bein lazy and i think they would actually be takin\' a few steps back by producing games on the wii...i think that philosophy would make more sense to a smaller firm,..not somebody like square...
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2007, 11:42:59 PM »
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the playstation was flooded with shit also.  You can\'t knock a developer for wanting to make money.  The problem is that these developers know they can produce a pile of shit and people will still buy it up because its next gen.  There is no reason for the developers to put quality into their work at this point in time.  You can\'t get pissed at a corporation for wanting to make money, thats silly.


I\'m not saying the Playstation didn\'t have shitty games. But it seemed like it ceartinly had less on it. Or maybe I was just younger and didn\'t notice.

No big deal to me. I don\'t own a console of any generation anymore. I only put cash into the PC now.
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2007, 01:46:19 AM »
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I\'m not saying the Playstation didn\'t have shitty games. But it seemed like it ceartinly had less on it. Or maybe I was just younger and didn\'t notice.

No big deal to me. I don\'t own a console of any generation anymore. I only put cash into the PC now.
I think you feel that way because on the PS1 many new titles appeared, which were also helped by the fact that for the first time developers could express more with 3D (or better technology) for the first time.

Wipeout, GT, Tekken, Toshinden (the original), Tomb Raider, Crash Bandicoot, Soul Edge, F1, Ridge Racer, Suikoden, Xenogears, vagrant Story, Resident Evil etc all these game captured the hearts of gamers because they had some qualities.

Some of them were new, others unique, others much better than what was offered before etc

Playstation was full of new quality games that never existed before and games that were leaps beyond their old 2D incarnations. Playstation was a heaven of games.

But developers (mainly Publishers) reused again and again and again what these examples offered, for easy money, they made people tired of them and they wont care as long as there are people that buy them. Also because costs increase they dont want to bother with new titles.

Just check the type of these games and how many of them have number 4 and beyond on their titles today. We get sequels every year and reusage of the same old ideas, while sacrificing anything related to artistic quality and better execution.

We get countless of FPS, shooters based on WW2 and fighting "terrorists" on 360 and PS3, and shallow games on Wii. All highly scored, popular and successful.

The problem arent shitty games (all consoles had a ton of them. Even the consoles that hardcore gamers praise). Its the kind of games that are considered popular, the top of the banch and of quality.

Fortunately there are some developers who do offer new and original games but they are lost in the masses of the other shallow but "popular" games
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2007, 10:26:45 AM »
Vagrant Story was the only game for PSX that really wowed me. And Symphony.
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2007, 03:59:44 PM »
Square rules.
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