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Offline QuDDus
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« Reply #45 on: August 27, 2007, 07:03:43 PM »
I am not saying the guy wasn\'t involved in the dog fighting. I just don\'t think he bothered with the killing of the animals. I believe if one of those dangerous dogs got killed or punked out. His associates took care of it.
I am not saying that makes him any better.

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I\'d love to see that press conference where Rich McKay stands up at the podium and explains why they are going to pay an animal killer millions.


I am not saying that he the best human on earth for doing what he did. But I don\'t think this crime is worth the mans entire career. I don\'t think the crime meets the punishment. Sure he should face something but the law is the law and people have done ten times worst and got off with way lighter sentences.

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It\'s too bad for those dogs to, huh... considering they are dead. Over 50 dogs are going to be put down, why because of a business he was runninlg and funding it. Now if you were funding/running a strip joint that was hosting prostitution you\'d be in the same boat with Vick. I agree he should be allowed to come back to the game, that in itself will be enough punishment as it is.


Animals die every single day so I can enjoy a whopper jr anytime I want. If you ask some of those veggie nut jobs I should be locked up. I am not saying the guy is going to win a boyscout award anytime soon. But to take away his entire career seems way over the line.  Sure he is dumb fucker for even being involved with this. He has enough money to find something more constructive to do with his time. Can\'t blame anyone but Vick for this but I hope he gets a second chance.
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« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2007, 07:23:56 PM »
there\'s a minor difference between killing for food and killing a dog that\'s fighting just to please its owner. and not only killing it, but electricuting it.

But while i think vick should be punished to the full extent, the media coverage is out of hand and definitly not proportional to all the other things that the media should/shouldve talked about. good or bad
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« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2007, 07:53:22 PM »
So I\'m sure Vick killed those dogs and then had them for dinner? Or is there some under ground doggie burgers I don\'t know about Quddus?

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« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2007, 09:44:55 PM »
Playing in the NFL is a fucking privilege.  The sheer fact that he could repeatedly lie about this is reason enough for the Falcons to get rid of him.  Then factor in the crime itself and I have no problem with him maybe never playing again.

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« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2007, 10:10:48 PM »
and btw, his career isn\'t over. Its a huge bump but there will always be a team that will take the risk and the publicity. Hell, even the falcons aren\'t cutting him from the team yet saying \'it\'d be in our best interest to cut him now, but for the future of the organization, it isn\'t the right move\'
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« Reply #50 on: August 27, 2007, 11:02:21 PM »
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I am not saying the guy wasn\'t involved in the dog fighting. I just don\'t think he bothered with the killing of the animals. I believe if one of those dangerous dogs got killed or punked out. His associates took care of it.
I am not saying that makes him any better.



I am not saying that he the best human on earth for doing what he did. But I don\'t think this crime is worth the mans entire career. I don\'t think the crime meets the punishment. Sure he should face something but the law is the law and people have done ten times worst and got off with way lighter sentences.



Animals die every single day so I can enjoy a whopper jr anytime I want. If you ask some of those veggie nut jobs I should be locked up. I am not saying the guy is going to win a boyscout award anytime soon. But to take away his entire career seems way over the line.  Sure he is dumb fucker for even being involved with this. He has enough money to find something more constructive to do with his time. Can\'t blame anyone but Vick for this but I hope he gets a second chance.
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« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2007, 03:34:54 AM »
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Go club some kittens you heartless dumb piece of shit.


lol you\'re taking this way too far. I\'m not saying its moral to do what he did. Its just seems like everyone will justify the killing of animals for every other reason in life.
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« Reply #52 on: August 28, 2007, 03:52:41 AM »
He\'s getting sympathy only coz he\'s not white. :p
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« Reply #53 on: August 28, 2007, 05:32:14 AM »
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Its just seems like everyone will justify the killing of animals for every other reason in life.



Tru no doubt...i remember livin\' in jersey when there were an abundant amount of deers in the area, the state would justify special legislation for hunters to go out and kill them.....and nobody had a problem with it,..never mind the fact that humans were buliding in the deers back yard so the deers have no-where else to go,..and if everybody is so worried about animal torture?...those shot-guns and arrows that they use don\'t always provide an instant kill...

Dog pounds and shelters? after a certain amount of time or if the the pound itself becomes over-crowded, what do you think happens to those dogs in there?...riight...they put them down and incinerate them....doesn\'t matter if the animal is used for food or not, if everybody all of a sudden is so concerned about animal rights and torture, you should see the way they kill cows in those slaughter houses,...they cut their neck and let\'em bleed to death, or they tie them up in the air and split them right down the middle and let their guts spill out...


i\'m not defendin\' vick actions, it was wrong of him from the jump, but all i\'m sayin\' is that even tho dogs are seen as domestic pets at the end of the day it\'s still an animal and some are actin\' like other animals aren\'t bein\' slaughtered ten-times worse than what\'s happened in vick\'s case...again vicks an ass for even gettin involved in somethin\' like this, but the media is just exaggerating the whole scale of it...
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« Reply #54 on: August 28, 2007, 05:58:53 AM »
Jesus. It\'s different about deer. They cause a lot of traffic fatalities. The hunters shoot them and eat them, not torture them. The dogs and cats are not being mistreated at the pound - but if no one adopts them, they\'re put to sleep. They\'re NOT put into a pit and made to fight and die an excruciating death.

QUIT LOOKING AT THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN! It\'s got NOTHING to do with that but you guys don\'t realize it but you are sympathizing for the black man. Why is the media all over this? COZ HE\'S FAMOUS! What else did you expect out of the media? Kids look up to him. They want to be like him. Now this shit happens.

Oh I know some of you will say "Oh it ain\'t like that, Joe! Let\'em do the time but dayum the media is taking this out of context n blowin this outta proportion!" What context? ESPN has little to report on until the season starts. Just....this is NORMAL. Everyone was all over Chmura (or whatever his name was) when he had groped or had "inappropriate" contact with his 17 yr old baby sitter - only he was acquitted of the crime. He still lost his contract and has retired since.

What\'s happening with the media over this Vick incident is normal procedure, folks.
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« Reply #55 on: August 28, 2007, 06:07:13 AM »
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and btw, his career isn\'t over. Its a huge bump but there will always be a team that will take the risk and the publicity. Hell, even the falcons aren\'t cutting him from the team yet saying \'it\'d be in our best interest to cut him now, but for the future of the organization, it isn\'t the right move\'


The reason he hasn\'t been cut yet is because then the team couldn\'t go after the $22 million of the bonus he got a year or two ago. Also after they get the bouns back they will get a salary cap credit for this season.  

The reason they haven\'t cut him yet is money, nothing else.  I\'m sure he\'ll play in the NFL again at some point... or at least in the CFL or Arena League.

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« Reply #56 on: August 28, 2007, 06:18:54 AM »
meh i agree with some what you stated gman,...and if you go-back a few pages you\'ll see i\'ve already presented how the media TRIED to make this a racial thing...my bringing up the aspect of deers and cows and torture related to it, of course i know why it\'s done, i was just tryin\' to make a point, and yes the media will become fascinated with any story that\'s fresh and not related to iraq...i believe the last great media frenzy was Chris Benoit, and before that it was Anna-Nicole-Smith...i just think the media is just gettin\' a bit carried away with this one.
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« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2007, 06:21:32 AM »
As long as the media isn\'t reporting anything about shark attacks, we shouldn\'t worry. Shark attack reports are a prelude to terrorist attacks: 9/11, bombings in Spain, bombings in London.

Wierd but true. :(
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« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2007, 09:59:01 AM »
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QUIT LOOKING AT THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN! It\'s got NOTHING to do with that but you guys don\'t realize it but you are sympathizing for the black man. Why is the media all over this? COZ HE\'S FAMOUS! What else did you expect out of the media? Kids look up to him. They want to be like him. Now this shit happens.


What\'s happening with the media over this Vick incident is normal procedure, folks.


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« Reply #59 on: August 28, 2007, 02:32:06 PM »
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Animals die every single day so I can enjoy a whopper jr anytime I want. If you ask some of those veggie nut jobs I should be locked up.



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