Ja Rule\'s new joint...

Lil Wayne is one of the tightest in the game but ja rules career seems over to me. Weezy out their doing his thing right now.

[CHIZZY]

why wouldn\'t you be offended by what these retards are doing to the black people\'s image? It\'s MY fault that I see black folks as dangerous criminals?!? How can that be when The only people not portrayed that way on TV and other media get called "uncle Toms" ... I wouldn\'t support those people if I were you , no matter how much you like their "music"

[GmanJoe]

Asians are typically kung-fu fighting villains on TV and movies.

Don\'t trust me and THX. We\'ll karate chop you and blow up your house as we drive away in our souped up Civics.

Chizz you need to move to Africa and get back to your roots.  I\'ll drive you in my civic

why wouldn\'t you be offended by what these retards are doing to the black people\'s image? It\'s MY fault that I see black folks as dangerous criminals?!? How can that be when The only people not portrayed that way on TV and other media get called "uncle Toms" ... I wouldn\'t support those people if I were you , no matter how much you like their "music"

Why aren\'t you offended by the racist and poor white trash images being portrayed by some whites? The thing is if you view black people by what you see in some young hip hop video you got some serious issues.

Mainstream america does not want to see the positive shit that black america is doing. Why because all these white folks are making so much money off the same young black guys they try and tear down. If the images and shit was not marketable it would not even be one tv.

Why aren\'t you offended by the racist and poor white trash images being portrayed by some whites? The thing is if you view black people by what you see in some young hip hop video you got some serious issues.

Mainstream america does not want to see the positive shit that black america is doing. Why because all these white folks are making so much money off the same young black guys they try and tear down. If the images and shit was not marketable it would not even be one tv.

Well stop buying their CD\'s and clothes and energy drinks and you will no longer see them on TV. Just because someone is exploiting it "the white man" doesn\'t mean it\'s their fault. If you want a cleaner image then you will need to stop supporting what is portrayed on TV. And I\'m sorry, but for most what you see on TV is what  you believe regardless of how ignorant that is, that\'s how it is.

[CHIZZY]

I am offended by ignorant / racist white trash. I would never give money to anyone glorifying trailerparks, walmart, country music, larry the cable guy or meth dealers. Which is why I\'m confused as to why black folks would buy products made by criminals and self-confessed drug dealers, and glorify them.  

I would love to see some positive shit done by black america. Why don\'t you point me in the right direction?

[GmanJoe]

Why aren\'t you offended by the racist and poor white trash images being portrayed by some whites? The thing is if you view black people by what you see in some young hip hop video you got some serious issues.

Mainstream america does not want to see the positive shit that black america is doing. Why because all these white folks are making so much money off the same young black guys they try and tear down. If the images and shit was not marketable it would not even be one tv.

I dunno man. Some of them rap artists "wanna keep it reeyul" and despite their success, prefer to stay ghetto and stupid. It ain\'t the white people at MTV that make\'em do that, it\'s their choice.

"Why you gotta leave the hoooood and be all boozhie and shit?"

I used to live in the ghetto when I first immigrated here. I wanted to get out of the hood asap. I can\'t see the benefit of staying there.

I dunno man. Some of them rap artists "wanna keep it reeyul" and despite their success, prefer to stay ghetto and stupid. It ain\'t the white people at MTV that make\'em do that, it\'s their choice.

"Why you gotta leave the hoooood and be all boozhie and shit?"

I used to live in the ghetto when I first immigrated here. I wanted to get out of the hood asap. I can\'t see the benefit of staying there.

No matter what their is always going to be some forms of ignorance in every race of people because people are who they are. Its just that everyone want to attack rappers for growing up in the environment they have and saying fuck it. I am not going to change who I am for anyone. If you don\'t like what these young men are doing then you don\'t have to support them. But when you look at the media that is shit that is all over. Until you lived it you will never understand why these guys are like fuck society I am not changing me. Thats an individual choice that some have to make. Rappers don\'t respresent the entire black population.

Gman I don\'t think anyone wants to stay in the "ghetto". It is what it is though. A lot of people would not be where they are without it. You have to make the best of what your situation is. Nobody chooses to grow up in the hood. You have to make the best of whatever situation you got. The thing that pisses me off is. America acts like black people are the only people who stay in the poor areas. There are plenty of white people living in a ghetto.

Well stop buying their CD\'s and clothes and energy drinks and you will no longer see them on TV. Just because someone is exploiting it "the white man" doesn\'t mean it\'s their fault. If you want a cleaner image then you will need to stop supporting what is portrayed on TV. And I\'m sorry, but for most what you see on TV is what you believe regardless of how ignorant that is, that\'s how it is.

Can\'t happen when all the major distributors are using hip hop to market their products. I don\'t think the media will ever change. Too much money is being made off hip hop and the negative sterio types. The world is fucked up and if you take hip hop away shit would still be the same. There would just be one lest avenue to blame for the problems of the world.

[GmanJoe]

I know enough about reality not to be swayed by the media, tv, movies and music.

Then again, I\'m old enough to know. But some kids are impressionable and stick to what they see and hear on TV.

[clips]

i don\'t wanna dwelve too deep on this, as qdog really hit it nicely on all points....the bottomline is line that at the end of the day these record companies which have white ceo\'s are the one\'s bankrollin\' the hip-hop industry, and if you come thru with some type of posivite happy go lucky kind of rap music, most likely it won\'t get any air play. And Chizz it really is kinda ignorant of you to have that image of black folk, just because of what you see on tv,...

Paris hilton, lindsey lohan, mel gibson, are but a few white celebrities that could have caused great harm or maybe even killed somebody while driving their vehicle in their drunken tirade.(Lohan was speeding and crashed her car into a tree) And as far as black folk bein\' seen as dangerous crminals? i see your point to some extent as that image is really all that you see of young black youth on a daily basis, but you should still be wise enough to know that all black folk aren\'t like that...




I can easily say that with my interaction with whites whether it be racist cops, or racist people on the job, that i could have easily stated that ALL white people are racist bastards, and that\'s not comin\' from what i see on tv, but it\'s comin\' from what i experienced in real life, but i know all white people aren\'t racist.





Didn\'t Lindsey Lohan get caught with with cocaine in her pocket?...


http://www.yahoo.com/s/657861


And now those charges might get dropped....she\'s driving with a suspended license and is a repeat offender,...and all she stated was that the cocaine in her pocket wasn\'t hers...:rolleyes:...you think if this was one of those "dangerous rappers" that they would\'ve gotten a break?...nope...

[GmanJoe]

Michael Vick got caught with marijuana in the airport.

But they strung him up on dog fighting charges.

[Titan]

No matter what their is always going to be some forms of ignorance in every race of people because people are who they are. Its just that everyone want to attack rappers for growing up in the environment they have and saying fuck it. I am not going to change who I am for anyone. If you don\'t like what these young men are doing then you don\'t have to support them. But when you look at the media that is shit that is all over. Until you lived it you will never understand why these guys are like fuck society I am not changing me. Thats an individual choice that some have to make. Rappers don\'t respresent the entire black population.

Gman I don\'t think anyone wants to stay in the "ghetto". It is what it is though. A lot of people would not be where they are without it. You have to make the best of what your situation is. Nobody chooses to grow up in the hood. You have to make the best of whatever situation you got. The thing that pisses me off is. America acts like black people are the only people who stay in the poor areas. There are plenty of white people living in a ghetto.



Can\'t happen when all the major distributors are using hip hop to market their products. I don\'t think the media will ever change. Too much money is being made off hip hop and the negative sterio types. The world is fucked up and if you take hip hop away shit would still be the same. There would just be one lest avenue to blame for the problems of the world.

Q, I think this is a rare occasion when I agree totally with you. I actually find it admirable when the rappers refuse to change who they are. You are who you are. If I move out of Jersey, I\'m still gonna act Jersey. They got cahones living in Beverly Hills and still dressing and acting like they\'re in Harlem. More power to them. And it is kinda upsetting to me that hip hop is sold to the consumer. Its like that with all music in a way but hip hop was once a true art form. Now, they just bring rappers who can just rhyme and its just horrible. Every so often, I\'ll hear a hip hop song that really does have a strong message and a good beat. My roommates download hip hop and it just pains me to hear it. How could they even market that as authentic black culture?

[CHIZZY]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/02/rap.and.tap.bust/index.html?iref=werecommend

AHEM.. what were you saying?


Also, my view of black people has been formed by things like, oh, I don\'t know, my wife getting mugged, my apartment being broken into, multiple vehicles being burglarized, and the fact that I almost hit some asshole everyday because they\'re walking down the middle of the street and won\'t get out of the way. The level of ignorance astounds me. Why is it that they can\'t use the sidewalk like everyone else? It\'s like they feel entitled to not obey the law or even be courteous. It wears me down everyday, and frankly, I\'m sick of it. Just for once I\'d like to be surprised.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/02/rap.and.tap.bust/index.html?iref=werecommend

AHEM.. what were you saying?


Also, my view of black people has been formed by things like, oh, I don\'t know, my wife getting mugged, my apartment being broken into, multiple vehicles being burglarized, and the fact that I almost hit some asshole everyday because they\'re walking down the middle of the street and won\'t get out of the way. The level of ignorance astounds me. Why is it that they can\'t use the sidewalk like everyone else? It\'s like they feel entitled to not obey the law or even be courteous. It wears me down everyday, and frankly, I\'m sick of it. Just for once I\'d like to be surprised.

Woot! I can see Chizzy\'s point here and I see this on a regular basis around where I\'m at. Where they just don\'t seem to have a since of respect either for themselves or anyone else. Not saying every :fro: is like that but when you see that as the norm it tends to stick with you. Now it also depends on the way the look dress and appear. Appearance is a big thing, regardless of how you feel it makes a huge difference on when reading a person.


And since when did this thread become about race!!!  
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