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[Viper_Fujax]

white people do the same thing with appearance. Seems like all white people where jeans, and maybe those collared shirts. regardless, it looks like everyone shops at the same store JUST like black people..so its not just them peoples.

Obviously there\'s differences between white and black, but gad damn. It just seems like, when i white person commits a crime we think \'what an asshole.\' But when a black person does it its like \'why do all these guys rob liquor stores?\'

But thats just in my little corner of the country. so it\'s probably deeper. It was only ~50 years ago when times were shit with racial issues. I personally still think we\'re getting more matured and progressing..just definitly not as rapidly as before. I think more black people need to get out of the south personally. Just always seems like theyre stuck in shit conditions and can\'t progress

They don\'t like the cold weather.

[clips]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/02/rap.and.tap.bust/index.html?iref=werecommend

AHEM.. what were you saying?


Also, my view of black people has been formed by things like, oh, I don\'t know, my wife getting mugged, my apartment being broken into, multiple vehicles being burglarized, and the fact that I almost hit some asshole everyday because they\'re walking down the middle of the street and won\'t get out of the way. The level of ignorance astounds me. Why is it that they can\'t use the sidewalk like everyone else? It\'s like they feel entitled to not obey the law or even be courteous. It wears me down everyday, and frankly, I\'m sick of it. Just for once I\'d like to be surprised.

I guess the part about assholes bein\' in every race just goes in one ear and out the other doesn\'t it Chizz? If you\'re so determined to hold solid on that view of black folk then so be it. I\'ve lived in the projects, i know how some black folk can be and yes i know some walk around with a chip on their shoulder, but there was also alot of drug dealin\', people bein shot, even murdered (especially in the summertime) and you know what i did? i got out of that situation....saved my money up and bounced...if you don\'t like the neighborhood you\'re in then move....but didn\'t you just purchase that house not too long ago? And i\'m sure those black folk you\'re complaining about didn\'t just appear overnight....i\'m pretty sure you scoped out the area before you purchased your home and came to the conclusion that "this is a pretty nice spot"


I\'m sure if you ever seen or lived in those run down trailer parks *it\'s the equivilant(spel) to the ghetto* that it\'s the same deal.... drugs is runnin\' rampant, break-ins and the like....And i agree with mj that appearrance of the black youth in some instances may seem like that they\'re up to no-good from the jump, but the same could be said of that fresh cleaned white collar corporate type that you don\'t feel threatned by that probably just chopped somebody up and distributed their body parts all over the city. I still think you should change the way you think about black folk, but if you\'re set in your ways then there\'s nothing I or anybody else can say to make you change your view....

Just don\'t teach your kids that way of thinking cause it just seems to me you view black folk in a negative manner, and when it trickles down to the children that\'s where this vicious cycle of thinking will continue to evolve.

[Evi]

Wow...generalizing of an entire race due to your narrow experiences. That\'s brilliant, Chizz. And if some Native Americans did the same things, would you have this same feeling towards them as well, or are you just inherently prejudice? Maybe you should move somewhere else? I\'ve seen a lot of positive things from African Americans in my town. It would "surprise you". My father\'s business van just got broken into and the neighbor was robbed within the last few weeks and only a few houses apart. The criminals were all "white". *gasp* Should I have some vendetta against white people? There\'s a lot of idiots in my neighborhood that won\'t get out of the way of oncoming cars either and they\'re also white. Goodness. Damn white people, eh? My friend was mugged by some white guy. Another point against the white people. Oh and that white rock music with all the drugs and exploitation of women and whatnot...definitely can\'t have rock music with that kind of negative promotion of bad behavior.

Just don\'t teach your kids that way of thinking cause it just seems to me you view black folk in a negative manner, and when it trickles down to the children that\'s where this vicious cycle of thinking will continue to evolve.

That\'s generally where it starts is with parents bleeding their beliefs onto their children.

[clips]

^^^Finally, somebody that gets it...excellent post Evi...

Trust my I\'m prejudice against everyone equally. I judge people on appearance no matter what race... I\'ve known or had a ton of things happen where I grew up that were done by white folk myself and some clean cut middle-class white kids too. The only problem I have is that you say every cop racially profiles and that is probably true to an extent, but 99% the time I doubt it\'s because race more so than how your car looks and or how you are dressed. Unfortunately there are some closed minded motherfuckers out there that all they see is MTV or TV and figure all people fit in to specific stereo types. You have the blacks who run around with there blingy teeth, the mexicans that run illegally and take our money and send it back to Mexico while bumping uglies and making a billion babies in the process that all get US citizenship because they were born in the states while they were living here illegally. And the Asians that own nail salons to steal our wive\'s money. I think I covered the 3 major minorities and the typical stereotypes. But I work with all kind of races and I don\'t have a problem with that, I just can\'t stand the motherfuckers that walk around with some kind of entitlement or chip on their shoulders because they haven\'t had the best of luck in life whether they are white, black or mexican/asian.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/02/rap.and.tap.bust/index.html?iref=werecommend

AHEM.. what were you saying?


Also, my view of black people has been formed by things like, oh, I don\'t know, my wife getting mugged, my apartment being broken into, multiple vehicles being burglarized, and the fact that I almost hit some asshole everyday because they\'re walking down the middle of the street and won\'t get out of the way. The level of ignorance astounds me. Why is it that they can\'t use the sidewalk like everyone else? It\'s like they feel entitled to not obey the law or even be courteous. It wears me down everyday, and frankly, I\'m sick of it. Just for once I\'d like to be surprised.

Ignorance is bliss. If you view a populaiton of people based on a few ignorant people in your community then you are a sad case and need to educate yourself seriously. I have been through all the racist shit with white people. Even the the ghetto white people that live in shit areas and still have prejudice. But if I viewed the entire white population based on the ignorant people I came accross I would be a fool.

Ignorance has no color I thought you where much smarter than this I guess you are not.

Man FUCK ja rule

[CHIZZY]

Well, to all the assholes who called me ignorant, fuck off. My whole point all along is that if I was black, I would not be supporting the people who perpetuate the negative stereotypes. Just as I do not support any of the people who perpetuate the negative stereotypes associated with my race. I\'m not going to single-handedly get rid of nascar, crystal meth trailer park living pregnant teen redneck obese wrestling-watching white trash, but I\'ll be damned if I give one red cent to them personally. (other than my tax dollars which support welfare recipients, and we all know how much control we personally have over that...) Which brings me to another point: can any of you understand being frustrated at working 50 hours a week, paying more in taxes than a lot of you make in a year, then walking with my baby to the supermarket (which is right across the street from the university) and have a 4-year-old black kid try to push my baby out of her buggy because he wants it, and the fat mother says practically nothing to him,("don\'t do dat") dragging her 4 other kids behind her, pushing a shopping cart full of junk food that my tax dollars paid for, so they will grow up with poor eating habits and have heart disease & diabetes that my tax dollars will pay to treat down the road. So call me ignorant all you like. I know I have a right to feel frustrated. And I know that you will read racism into anything I say, because it\'s the easy thing to do. I\'ve said all I wanna say here.

[GmanJoe]

Well, to all the assholes who called me ignorant, fuck off. My whole point all along is that if I was black, I would not be supporting the people who perpetuate the negative stereotypes. Just as I do not support any of the people who perpetuate the negative stereotypes associated with my race. I\'m not going to single-handedly get rid of nascar, crystal meth trailer park living pregnant teen redneck obese wrestling-watching white trash, but I\'ll be damned if I give one red cent to them personally. (other than my tax dollars which support welfare recipients, and we all know how much control we personally have over that...) Which brings me to another point: can any of you understand being frustrated at working 50 hours a week, paying more in taxes than a lot of you make in a year, then walking with my baby to the supermarket (which is right across the street from the university) and have a 4-year-old black kid try to push my baby out of her buggy because he wants it, and the fat mother says practically nothing to him,("don\'t do dat") dragging her 4 other kids behind her, pushing a shopping cart full of junk food that my tax dollars paid for, so they will grow up with poor eating habits and have heart disease & diabetes that my tax dollars will pay to treat down the road. So call me ignorant all you like. I know I have a right to feel frustrated. And I know that you will read racism into anything I say, because it\'s the easy thing to do. I\'ve said all I wanna say here.

You owe lazy fat people your tax, bitch. Get back to work so the food stamp whores have more food stamps coming their way, despite the fact that they\'re barely over 25 yrs old but have the reading ability of their 2nd grader (youngest of 7 welfare kids).

You gotta keep it reeyul, whitey. You work for the minority now, beeyutch.

[SIZE="1"]so do I [/SIZE]

Well, to all the assholes who called me ignorant, fuck off. My whole point all along is that if I was black, I would not be supporting the people who perpetuate the negative stereotypes. Just as I do not support any of the people who perpetuate the negative stereotypes associated with my race. I\'m not going to single-handedly get rid of nascar, crystal meth trailer park living pregnant teen redneck obese wrestling-watching white trash, but I\'ll be damned if I give one red cent to them personally. (other than my tax dollars which support welfare recipients, and we all know how much control we personally have over that...) Which brings me to another point: can any of you understand being frustrated at working 50 hours a week, paying more in taxes than a lot of you make in a year, then walking with my baby to the supermarket (which is right across the street from the university) and have a 4-year-old black kid try to push my baby out of her buggy because he wants it, and the fat mother says practically nothing to him,("don\'t do dat") dragging her 4 other kids behind her, pushing a shopping cart full of junk food that my tax dollars paid for, so they will grow up with poor eating habits and have heart disease & diabetes that my tax dollars will pay to treat down the road. So call me ignorant all you like. I know I have a right to feel frustrated. And I know that you will read racism into anything I say, because it\'s the easy thing to do. I\'ve said all I wanna say here.

I understand your frustration but it doesn\'t have ANYTHING to do with the fact the woman or the child is black. Cut out the race in your rant and I don\'t think anyone here would disagree with you.

Although I don\'t think the fact you "paying more in taxes than a lot of you make in a year"   really means jack shit to your argument.  Does a person who works 50 hours a week and make half the amount you do have less entitlement to feel frustrated?  Does that somehow make you better?

[CHIZZY]

Why the fuck am I arguing on the internet with a bunch of soapbox standing HYPOCRITES? I\'m out of here. this place sucks lately anyway. Vid, I think I know how to get ahold of you if I want, sammy, it\'s been cool...

[GmanJoe]

Um...was it me? Coz I...I was just messin around. Chizzy? CHIZZY! [SIZE="7"]CHIZZYYYYY![/SIZE]

[Viper_Fujax]

people really dont like the word ignorant...everyone\'s ignorant

but hell be back. they always come back for more..

Why the fuck am I arguing on the internet with a bunch of soapbox standing HYPOCRITES? I\'m out of here. this place sucks lately anyway. Vid, I think I know how to get ahold of you if I want, sammy, it\'s been cool...

Damn, that sucks.

I\'ll miss you Chizzy... lemme know if you change your mind. If not, take care.

You\'re right about this place sucking though.