NFL! Let\'s hear the trash talk!

I think it\'s kinda harsh....gimmie a break it\'s only dog-fightin\'....even tho vick\'s results came back positive for weed(he\'s a f**kin\' idiot for doin\' that) i still think this judge was bein\' an asshole....the local court in VA already wants to sue him for millions on top of the already federal charges,..they\'re actin\' like this dude commited murder or some s**t,...they totally ignored all of the good things he\'s done in his community and for kids in general....yea, it was wrong what he did but they are goin\' overboard with it...

It\'s absurd to think they\'re going overboard with it.  I\'m not even an animal person and the ways he treated these animals is disgusting.  Watch some videos of the stuff they do to these animals then talk.  23 months is far from acting like he committed murder, seriously.  Not to mention the fact that he could have got a much shorter sentence if he plead earlier or met them halfway on any information.  He kept lying and thought he was untouchable so he had it coming.

As for suing him for millions, they\'re just basing it off of the man hours to clean the situation up and the upkeep for all the leftover dogs off of his properties.  Once again, he had it coming.

I\'d like to hear what you think would have been a proper sentence.

[Viper_Fujax]

my main problem with that ordeal is that he says hes sorry, but had he not been caught (yet) hed still be doing it today. He only said he was sorry because people told him to, and the public wanted it...the only thing hes sorry about is getting caught.

my main problem with that ordeal is that he says hes sorry, but had he not been caught (yet) hed still be doing it today. He only said he was sorry because people told him to, and the public wanted it...the only thing hes sorry about is getting caught.

Doesn\'t this apply to almost any convicted criminal?

[Viper_Fujax]

true...fucking pricks

i think 2 years will change him though..but i was wrong about him before

1 - That play when Tom Brady threw the ball to Randy Moss and he dropped it, then picked it back up and threw it back to tom brady?.....wasn\'t that supposed to be a dead play?.....

You have to remember that ball was thrown a couple yards behind the line of scrimmage, when moss dropped that ball it was a fumble, the steelers could\'ve picked it up and run it back for a touchdown.

Too be honest, I actually thought this was one game where they weren\'t too bad with running up the score.  I mean they actually did kick a FG.  Instead of running the ball, they did little short passes to welker that served the same purpose.

Yeah it\'s not pretty, they\'re not likable, the coach is the biggest asshole on the planet... but they win so... I guess you have to be happy with something.  Plus the NFL is getting great better ratings now than ever.

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It\'s absurd to think they\'re going overboard with it.  I\'m not even an animal person and the ways he treated these animals is disgusting.  Watch some videos of the stuff they do to these animals then talk.  23 months is far from acting like he committed murder, seriously.  Not to mention the fact that he could have got a much shorter sentence if he plead earlier or met them halfway on any information.  He kept lying and thought he was untouchable so he had it coming.

As for suing him for millions, they\'re just basing it off of the man hours to clean the situation up and the upkeep for all the leftover dogs off of his properties.  Once again, he had it coming.

I\'d like to hear what you think would have been a proper sentence.

Oh please, people kill animals everyday for food consumption... some even kill for sport...i know alot of people that have a deershead hangin on their wall...animal cruelty?...it sure is..those deers that get shot with those arrows? alot of times it isn\'t instant death,..they suffer and bleed to death, but because it\'s legal at certain times of the year it\'s ok and nobody says anything about it....regardless if it\'s used to control the deer population,...if you feel sorry for animals then it should be across the board.

Now with that said i have heard the reports of vick not being straight foward with the the owner of the falcons, the prosecuters, and even the judge,..it\'s true they gave him a chance to come clean and therefore he would\'ve gotten a lighter sentence and he didn\'t,...so i have to retract some of my earlier comments.... he\'s a f**kin\' idiot for doin\' that and now he\'s made his bed and now he\'s has to man-up with "Bubba" in jail and lie in it.

[GmanJoe]

Oh please, people kill animals everyday for food consumption... some even kill for sport...i know alot of people that have a deershead hangin on their wall...animal cruelty?...it sure is..those deers that get shot with those arrows? alot of times it isn\'t instant death,..they suffer and bleed to death, but because it\'s legal at certain times of the year it\'s ok and nobody says anything about it....regardless if it\'s used to control the deer population,...if you feel sorry for animals then it should be across the board.

Now with that said i have heard the reports of vick not being straight foward with the the owner of the falcons, the prosecuters, and even the judge,..it\'s true they gave him a chance to come clean and therefore he would\'ve gotten a lighter sentence and he didn\'t,...so i have to retract some of my earlier comments.... he\'s a f**kin\' idiot for doin\' that and now he\'s made his bed and now he\'s has to man-up with "Bubba" in jail and lie in it.

There\'s a law about cruelty to animals. Vick borked them.

Trust me, if there wasn\'t a law against making midgets fight for a pot of gold, I\'d do it.

[GmanJoe]

Man....he drowned one dog and had another hung up? WHAT THE FUCK? You do that to cats! But not dogs!

Oh please, people kill animals everyday for food consumption... some even kill for sport...i know alot of people that have a deershead hangin on their wall...animal cruelty?...it sure is..those deers that get shot with those arrows? alot of times it isn\'t instant death,..they suffer and bleed to death, but because it\'s legal at certain times of the year it\'s ok and nobody says anything about it....regardless if it\'s used to control the deer population,...if you feel sorry for animals then it should be across the board.

One is a domesticated animal while the other is wild.  It\'s been that way for a long time in this country and makes things much different.  Not to mention the fact that they torture these animals and force them to fight as opposed to just killing them.  And lastly, it\'s the law.  They didn\'t do this thinking it was legal.  I\'m sorry the laws aren\'t bent around a certain cultures view on things.

I could name a bunch more reasons on why hunting is much much different from dog fighting, on top of population control, if you\'d like.  Oh, and, what is your view on all of this?  Should dog fighting be legal?

[Viper_Fujax]

that\'s all true..but i think rednecks should be put up for hunting season too

i mean, there is an overpopulation of hicks in the US...

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One is a domesticated animal while the other is wild.  It\'s been that way for a long time in this country and makes things much different.  Not to mention the fact that they torture these animals and force them to fight as opposed to just killing them.  And lastly, it\'s the law.  They didn\'t do this thinking it was legal.  I\'m sorry the laws aren\'t bent around a certain cultures view on things.

I could name a bunch more reasons on why hunting is much much different from dog fighting, on top of population control, if you\'d like.  Oh, and, what is your view on all of this?  Should dog fighting be legal?

C\'mon Boz i only said somethin\' cause you were sayin\' what he did was animal cruelty,...and it was, but all i\'m sayin is that this type of thing happens to animals everyday....but because the law says it\'s ok in certain situations then it\'s ok.."well let\'s kill some more deers.. they\'re overpopulatin"., and i understand the laws and everything and why, but people were just acting like OMG i don\'t believe he did this and that,...it was just a bit over the top...again he did deserve what he got, i just think people were over-exaggerating the situation.

C\'mon Boz i only said somethin\' cause you were sayin\' what he did was animal cruelty,...and it was, but all i\'m sayin is that this type of thing happens to animals everyday....but because the law says it\'s ok in certain situations then it\'s ok.."well let\'s kill some more deers.. they\'re overpopulatin"., and i understand the laws and everything and why, but people were just acting like OMG i don\'t believe he did this and that,...it was just a bit over the top...again he did deserve what he got, i just think people were over-exaggerating the situation.

Shooting an animal and eating it for dinner = OKAY.

Torturing animals so that they become fighters and when they fail to fight, hanging or drowning them  = NOT OKAY.

Must be a black thing.

Petrino leaves the Falcon before the year is even over.
Who would of thought?

[GmanJoe]

Torturing animals so that they become fighters and when they fail to fight, hanging or drowning them  = NOT OKAY.

Must be a black thing.

Every time I hear this, I seriously lose my temper a bit.

Dog breeds do have certain unique qualities about them...but you can raise and train them to be loving animals. Pit Bulls used to be the most popular breed before the 1940\'s.

Did you know the RCA dog was a pit? Little Rascal\'s dog was a Pit? The mascot for Hush Puppies - a pit. The most decorated military dog for saving an entire platoon - pit (WWI).

I\'m more lost on your point. Are you trying to say that I was saying pit bulls are evil animals? Because if so, lay off the crack, I never once said it buddy.  I never even implied the nature of the dog.