Bible Thumper gets thumped

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Exactly. True Christianity is not a religion, its relationship and faith.

[Viper_Fujax]

Fred,

This is just my suggestions here but you don\'t have to take my words for it. up to you here...


Who here are skeptical about religions?  I know I am.  In my life experience, I find people people who aren\'t too religious seem more real, open minded, happier, lay back, and more like themselves.

compare to people who are too religious in my experience i have seen, not all but some that are too religious seems too fake, and have this "holier than thou" attitude.  some doesn\'t even practice what they preach and are less ethical than those who are less religious or even athiest.

so, again up to you fred, maybe you can cut back down on your belief and see if your life does improve.  who knows, doing something that are helpful, authentic, and meaningful like try to get your health back together might do.

Because trusting your religion seems to have no effect on your recovery so far.

completely agree.

Yay for agnosticism...(not saying you are..I am). All signs in life, one especially i dont want to get into, makes me not believe in any diety. But still the fact i dont know sh*t about anything in life is the only reason im still agnostic and not an atheist

and you could say that about all religions racer. It\'s all the same stuff when it boils down to the basics. It\'s all the details and practices that makes people think theyre right and all the others are wrong

[§ôµÏG®ïñD]

Paul you don\'t know the first thing about me, i can honestly say trusting god is the one thing that\'s gotten me this far. Im sorry if you have had a bad experience in what you call religion. Perhaps if you opened your heart a bit & you can trust ME on this, you will find it\'s not at all about religion. But about a personal relationship.

why should he have to do anything. Why should anyone for that matter.


i doubt god had anything to do with how far you\'ve gotten to this point, but whatever works for you.

[clips]

Let\'s not go there with the religious stuff shall we?....I believe in god and i don\'t believe that we just happened to magically appear from a great explosion...how did humans evolve? from the simplest of cell evolution?....No...something greater or someone greater had something to do with it...say what you will but i\'d rather die believing in god than die and not believing....and when we all die and if god doesn\'t exist, then you can say "see i told you so"...

But i\'m not the type that forces my beliefs on anyone....and i\'m far from perfect and i do hate when religious folk try to act or be better than the average person, i\'ll tell the next religious person straight up..look i still like to go the clubs, i still like to drink and have fun,....there are alot of things that i do that some religious folk would probably have an heart attack over, but one thing i don\'t do is force my beliefs on anyone or look down on anyone that doesn\'t believe in god....

i don\'t believe that we just happened to magically appear from a great explosion...

But you do believe we just happened to magically appear from a great divine power and that all mankind comes from just two (white? ) people.

[clips]

But you do believe we just happened to magically appear from a great divine power and that all mankind comes from just two (black ) people.

fixed......and you believe that we magically appeared from a great explosion...naked?....then why out of all the planets in our solar system is earth the only planet with intelligent life?...why doesn\'t all of the planets have intelligent life since all the said planets have generally been created around the same time?...this argument can go both ways and nobody knows the answer....you believe what you will and vice versa...i\'m right you\'re wrong...etc...

I know we\'ll never agree, I was just having some fun.

I choose to put my faith in science and you can put yours in magic, I mean, God.*

* Still pullin\' your leg.

[clips]

* Still pullin\' your leg.

HEY WATCH IT!...yer\' pullin\' the wrong LEG!....

[Cerberus]

I went to a CofE school, I had that religious shit crammed down my throat 6 hours a day, 7 days a week, and it\'s been instrumental in my agnostic outlook on life.

I\'d like to think there\'s a god, or something after this life, but I have no proof, nor have I seen evidence to equate to a "miracle" attributed to some greater being.

I it often brings a smile to my face when I see people (often teenagers, or people in their early 20\'s) who say things like "but he does exist, if you just open your heart, you will see the proof", or "he does exist, and though you still doubt him, he still loves you"

that stuffmakes me smirk, because it\'s the same rhetoric bullshit I had to endure in school.

HEY WATCH IT!...yer\' pullin\' the wrong LEG!....

It\'s not my fault you black folk have such big... legs...

[§ôµÏG®ïñD]

fixed......and you believe that we magically appeared from a great explosion...naked?....then why out of all the planets in our solar system is earth the only planet with intelligent life?...why doesn\'t all of the planets have intelligent life since all the said planets have generally been created around the same time?...this argument can go both ways and nobody knows the answer....you believe what you will and vice versa...i\'m right you\'re wrong...etc...

i didn\'t know you\'ve been to all these planets, what are they like?

[Titan]

fixed......and you believe that we magically appeared from a great explosion...naked?....then why out of all the planets in our solar system is earth the only planet with intelligent life?...why doesn\'t all of the planets have intelligent life since all the said planets have generally been created around the same time?...this argument can go both ways and nobody knows the answer....you believe what you will and vice versa...i\'m right you\'re wrong...etc...

Earth is the only planet that could have intelligent life. Its the only planet we know about that can sustain life. Its got good atmosphere, water, not too hot or cold. It has all the ingredients to make life thrive. They do think that there could be life on Titan, one of Jupiters moons (I think...could be Saturn...i dunno. Didn\'t pay attention during astronomy).

[Paul2]

...it\'s not at all about religion. But about a personal relationship.

what kind of personal relationship is this...as if you want to date this god of your imagination, wouldn\'t that make you wife jealous?  you do know she just got a car accident.  j/k:D

why should he have to do anything. Why should anyone for that matter.

completely agree with you there.

[clips]

i didn\'t know you\'ve been to all these planets, what are they like?

I guess they don\'t teach science over there eh?

Earth is the only planet that could have intelligent life. Its the only planet we know about that can sustain life. Its got good atmosphere, water, not too hot or cold. It has all the ingredients to make life thrive. They do think that there could be life on Titan, one of Jupiters moons (I think...could be Saturn...i dunno. Didn\'t pay attention during astronomy).

But why is earth the only planet that turned out that way?...so when the great explosion happened, all the ingredients necessary for life purged itself perfectly on earth?...riiiight.....and while the earth was forming, millions of years later humans just formed from the simplest of cells?...history shows that the dinosaurs were here even longer than humans,...so how did the humans just magically appear outta no-where?.....

[Viper_Fujax]

eath is the only planet that coudl have intelligent life *in our solar system*

i dont know if it\'s easy to comprehend, but as many grains of sand as there are on all of the beaches on earth is about the amount of stars in the universe. Each of those stars has planets. The problem is that the closest star is 4 light years, so it takes FOREVER to get information from that one, close star system.

So i have no doubt that there are other planets with intelligent life. The problem is the vastness of the universe makes it impossible to get any convincing information, let alone travel. If it is, it\'s something we can\'t even comprehend, and we wont any time soon.

And Europa is a little more likely than titan to have life, mainly because europa could have a lot of water underneath it\'s crust..


and why in our solar system we\'re the only ones is simple. Past mars, the only thing that was able to form are gas giants. That pretty much narrows down that life has to be a certain distance from the sun. Not just for heating reasons, but for formation reasons. Venus could\'ve had life if it didnt have it\'s insanely high greenhouse. I doubt mars ever had any life even though some scientists talk about how the surface has signs of past lakes and stuff, but there\'s other proof that\'s more convincing that they were formed for another reason. But there\'s a chance there\'s life in the poles since there\'s life in horrible conditions in antarctica...slim chance though