Author Topic: Bible Thumper gets thumped (Read 16293 times)

Paul2 · « **Reply #45 on:** October 22, 2007, 08:25:19 AM »

well, that was pretty much it until Fred brings religion into it, commenting about that guy preaching.

GmanJoe · « **Reply #46 on:** October 22, 2007, 08:38:23 AM »

clips had a hand in it too by bringing up the Big Bang Theory (which was first theorized by a Catholic priest) and the Let There Be Light comparison.

They\'re basically the same.

Evi · « **Reply #47 on:** October 22, 2007, 11:04:17 AM »

Yay for derailing!

Viper_Fujax · « **Reply #48 on:** October 22, 2007, 01:23:09 PM »

Quote from: fre4d4

Hey your entitled to your opinion, even if it is wrong.

you\'re very subtly condescending.

« **Reply #49 on:** October 22, 2007, 01:29:06 PM »

Quote from: Viper_Fujax

you\'re very subtly condescending.

Lets just drop this whole thing & move on.

Titan · « **Reply #50 on:** October 22, 2007, 03:45:18 PM »

Quote from: Viper_Fujax

60% of all the stars in the universe is still an insane number. There are roughly 100 billion stars in a galaxy. Now look at this picture, that was shot in no particular direction by the hubble space telescope...was just some empty looking area, and we wanted to see what was in deep space.

http://www.astrographics.com/GalleryPrints/Display/GP0074.jpg

every fuzzy object is a galaxy

life is definitly rare...but rare in something liek that is still a very large number

and clips, the big bang isnt an explosion. It was the start of the expansion of the universe. And technically, explosions did make us. A star exploded, releasing all of the elements it\'s made of (which happens to be mostly hydrogen, which happens to be our most abundant element). A new star form\'s in its place and planets are made of all the excess rock/metals/gas that don\'t get sucked in by the star, those rocks/gasses/metals form the planets. So we\'re made of star stuff.

Can look up how star formations/solar systems form to get some better wording and evidence than from a college student that took a few classes, but this stuff is more for sure than evolution, which we definitly don\'t have nailed down but I think we have the right idea.

Few classes? One class which I showed up stoned to half the time, lol. But seriously, I just have a broad understanding since the class didn\'t go too much into depth. More of what I know I learned from the History Channel which is still all theory. But I do agree with your post. Only comment I can make is that what was shown on the Hubble was from billions and billions and billions of years ago. Those objects and galaxies may very well not even exist anymore. And back to the 60% thing, I bullshitted that number but was just trying to make a point. Even if only 1% of stars had planets, out of 100 billion, that\'s still an insane amount of planets that could have life. Saying there isn\'t another planet with life is kinda ignorant in my opinion.

Anyone else hear the theory that life actually originated on another planet and came here in the form of bacteria? I kinda believe that but then again I don\'t. It makes sense. There is bacteria that can survive a trip like that and evolve and if it somehow got on a meteor and came to earth on like an ice asteroid or something, it could have survived. But then again, I also believe life evolved from a primortial soup. Who knows. There are so many possibilities and I think its impossible for humans to comprehend the beginning of life.

Viper_Fujax · « **Reply #51 on:** October 22, 2007, 04:14:34 PM »

I was talking about me with the whole college student comment. And i know you bullshitted the number, i just bullshitted it back to make the point that rare is still a lot.

And i heard of that theory too. I dont think it was as simple as something with bacteria landing and starting life. There\'s the idea that life has begun many times since they\'ve proved it can happen relatively quickly. Since the earth was pummeled with asteroids in its making, theres a high probability that life had begun, got hit with a large asteroid and caused global destruction, settled down, life begun, got hit with another asteroid, etc etc

Titan · « **Reply #52 on:** October 22, 2007, 04:16:18 PM »

Quote from: Viper_Fujax

I was talking about me with the whole college student comment. And i know you bullshitted the number, i just bullshitted it back to make the point that rare is still a lot.

And i heard of that theory too. I dont think it was as simple as something with bacteria landing and starting life. There\'s the idea that life has begun many times since they\'ve proved it can happen relatively quickly. Since the earth was pummeled with asteroids in its making, theres a high probability that life had begun, got hit with a large asteroid and caused global destruction, settled down, life begun, got hit with another asteroid, etc etc

Like life began, a mass extinction and began again?

Evi · « **Reply #53 on:** October 22, 2007, 04:18:37 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambrian_explosion

Viper_Fujax · « **Reply #54 on:** October 22, 2007, 04:19:34 PM »

yea, should\'ve happened a bunch of times since asteroids are extremely far apart from eachother. Just during the formation of the solar system theres a lot more crap flying around than there is now, which is why it\'s not anywhere near as common

what\'s freaky though, is that it is still pretty common. They had that one in chicago a few years back, but the freaky one is the one that hit peru a couple months ago. It was in the mountains so it wasnt a big deal, but it still made a huge impact. imagine if that hit downtown somewhere

Titan · « **Reply #55 on:** October 22, 2007, 04:22:32 PM »

Quote from: Viper_Fujax

yea, should\'ve happened a bunch of times since asteroids are extremely far apart from eachother. Just during the formation of the solar system theres a lot more crap flying around than there is now, which is why it\'s not anywhere near as common

what\'s freaky though, is that it is still pretty common. They had that one in chicago a few years back, but the freaky one is the one that hit peru a couple months ago. It was in the mountains so it wasnt a big deal, but it still made a huge impact. imagine if that hit downtown somewhere

Problem I see with that is that say an asteriod hits once every 1 million years that does that, or even once every 64 million years in the last case, it still doesn\'t give enough time for life to start from scratch and evolve. Evolution doesn\'t happen that fast.

Viper_Fujax · « **Reply #56 on:** October 22, 2007, 04:23:20 PM »

not necessarily things long enough to evolve, just bacteria that we would consider life if we saw it on another planet

Evi · « **Reply #57 on:** October 22, 2007, 04:25:19 PM »

Quote from: Viper_Fujax

not necessarily things long enough to evolve, just bacteria that we would consider life if we saw it on another planet

That doesn\'t make any sense.

Viper_Fujax · « **Reply #58 on:** October 22, 2007, 04:29:59 PM »

Aight, so life has to start as tiny ass microbes. And in controlled situations (that\'s what makes it not so for sure), they were able to start life almost immediatley after getting all of the right conditions, which earth has.

So right when earth got all of its right ingrediants, life should form as tiny microbes very quickly. However, large asteroids still hit earth, big enough to wipe off any microbe life that existed. Then everything settles down (im oversimplifing it) and the conditions are still right for life so it should sprout up again very quickly. Rinse and repeat

these microbes arent evolving, and turning into fish. Theyre just the most basic forms of life getting wiped out as asteroids hit, but coming back when everything settles down

Evi · « **Reply #59 on:** October 22, 2007, 04:34:47 PM »

Super dooper accelerated evolution?

Hello

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