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« Reply #120 on: December 10, 2007, 04:43:48 PM »
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I used to be like you. I\'m not afraid I to say I used to be a bit of a sony fanboy, but it mainly had to do with the fact that they had a console that was perfect (ps1) and the controller back then was the greatest. ps2 was a great console, although not as perfect as the ps1 used to be. However, IMO this generation sony has done almost nothing right. The ps3 is alot of hype about nothing. They just kept promising and promising, but even to this day the library is severely lacking, especially when taking the huge 360 library into consideration. Add to that the fact that IMO the 360 controller is superior to the playstation controller.
I used to dislike anything microsoft had to offer, but I just can\'t deny the fact that they have done alot right this generation...

Personally I think Sony did many things right with the PS3 if we isolate our perspective only on PS3. What they did wrong was that they are lagging behind in their offers compared to competition.

Their console improved in many things above the PS2 and offers much more. But what happens when your competitor starts offering and improving one year before you? You are obvisouly going to lag behind and the consumer will certaintly start taking into account his opportunity costs. Choose a cheaper 360 with a bigger library? Or choose a much much more expensive PS3 that doesnt have as many games?

Sony fell victims of their own success and businesses. The blu ray bared a huge risk and at the same time an opportunity that as a whole business entity couldnt avoid. Sony even created a report noting down all the costs and damages they would have had to endure in case the PS3 got delayed because of blu ray. It also increased costs of production too much. I am not sure if they had a good contingency planning though. I ll have to reread that .pdf again.

They also had too many events that blew up their reputation. There was a battery recall, the patent dispute with immersion which resulted to the absence of vibration, sites spreading negativity, the European delay etc.

Also the controller remained as it is due to their previous success. Two generations in a row it was the standard and used by more than 100 million gamers world wide. Then although the controller could have been much better, the "boomerang" controller wasnt well received by the public. So they stayed with the old design believing it was the best choice.

All these plus more affected the course of the console. In marketing one negative event spreads 10 times more bad reputation than a positive spreading a good one.

This is the first time that I am considering owning two consoles since both are at equal terms now.

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« Reply #121 on: December 10, 2007, 05:10:54 PM »
If you honestly think Sony done a  lot of things right with the PS3, you\'re crazy. The game library is dismal at best, the launch price was outrageous and so far, Cell has been nothing but hype and no substance. And don\'t even get me started  on their half-baked network. You may pay for Live, but as far as it goes, Live offers a lot better service than the current version of the PSN.
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« Reply #122 on: December 10, 2007, 06:42:08 PM »
it offers better matchmaking?
that\'s about all you pay for....and to get demo\'s a week early last i read.

not going to touch the other nonsense, as you would just cover your eyes and stamp your feet.
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« Reply #123 on: December 10, 2007, 09:39:13 PM »
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it offers better matchmaking?
that\'s about all you pay for....and to get demo\'s a week early last i read.

not going to touch the other nonsense, as you would just cover your eyes and stamp your feet.

You act like better matchmaking isn\'t something worth noting - it is. Don\'t forget it also offered ingame voice, even if players aren\'t playing the same game. It features a better UI, it has downloads galore (demos / themes /gamerpics / tv shows / movies). You have your gamercard, when mixed with achievements, gameplay is extended. Sure, it\'s not free, but when the service is ten times better, the price isn\'t a big deal.

http://www.gamerevolver.com/article-54-LIVE-vs-PSN-Online.html

You\'re the only one stamping your feet, most likely because you no you have no ground to stand on in this debate.
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« Reply #124 on: December 10, 2007, 11:07:44 PM »
WOHOOO..got the 100th in the kingdom.

im glad as hell i got addicted to achievements..wouldve never done that for nothing

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« Reply #125 on: December 11, 2007, 01:03:18 AM »
All things considered the ps3 will eventually be a pretty nice console, I have no doubt about that, but even until now, it remains the inferior choice. It will take at least a good handfull of AAA titles for it to be considered a good console IMO. This is from a blanc perspective though. I really lost trust in sony because of their insane hype PR bullshit. I know it was already bad with the ps2, but this generation they\'ve taken it to a whole other level. In the ps2 era I was willing to blindly trust them because they made such an awesome console before (ps1) but this time I\'m happy waiting for that final moment when ps3 will actually be a great choice of console. In the mean time I\'m very happy only having a 360...
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« Reply #126 on: December 11, 2007, 01:08:56 AM »
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All things considered the ps3 will eventually be a pretty nice console, I have no doubt about that, but even until now, it remains the inferior choice. It will take at least a good handfull of AAA titles for it to be considered a good console IMO. This is from a blanc perspective though. I really lost trust in sony because of their insane hype PR bullshit. I know it was already bad with the ps2, but this generation they\'ve taken it to a whole other level. In the ps2 era I was willing to blindly trust them because they made such an awesome console before (ps1) but this time I\'m happy waiting for that final moment when ps3 will actually be a great choice of console. In the mean time I\'m very happy only having a 360...


exactly. Like, if i were deciding between 2 consoles, and one was more expensive, that console at that moment better be hands down the better console. But if the cheaper competition has 90% the same games to choose from, and the exclusives aren\'t THAT good (there\'s a few but theyre either really short, or not worth the extra money), then i dont see that it\'s worth getting yet.

MGS will make me think about getting one if it turns out to be revolutionary..if it turns out as an above average game, ill wait for god of war 3 and whatever the ico team\'s brewing up
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« Reply #127 on: December 11, 2007, 01:08:56 AM »
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All things considered the ps3 will eventually be a pretty nice console, I have no doubt about that, but even until now, it remains the inferior choice. It will take at least a good handfull of AAA titles for it to be considered a good console IMO. This is from a blanc perspective though. I really lost trust in sony because of their insane hype PR bullshit. I know it was already bad with the ps2, but this generation they\'ve taken it to a whole other level. In the ps2 era I was willing to blindly trust them because they made such an awesome console before (ps1) but this time I\'m happy waiting for that final moment when ps3 will actually be a great choice of console. In the mean time I\'m very happy only having a 360...


exactly. Like, if i were deciding between 2 consoles, and one was more expensive, that console at that moment better be hands down the better console. But if the cheaper competition has 90% the same games to choose from, and the exclusives aren\'t THAT good (there\'s a few but theyre either really short, or not worth the extra money), then i dont see that it\'s worth getting yet.

MGS will make me think about getting one if it turns out to be revolutionary..if it turns out as an above average game, ill wait for god of war 3 and whatever the ico team\'s brewing up
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« Reply #128 on: December 11, 2007, 04:07:38 AM »
Given time, it should become a fairly good console, but right now, I don\'t see a reason to justify it\'s price as a gaming console. I say "gaming console", that way I don\'t have to hear the whole Blu-Ray argument.
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« Reply #129 on: December 11, 2007, 04:59:02 AM »
R&C, Uncharted and Heavenly Sword are good enough a reason now.
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« Reply #130 on: December 11, 2007, 05:01:23 AM »
not to me
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i hope they all get aids and die they should bnt tbbe having sezx with just anyone they should be in love if theay are foing to have sex not just to make money I htink its wrong for them to just have sexzx for the fun of it specially when some of the performancs are married, its just wrong. tey are givng out deaseases to anyone and its just not right i tell you i think its really really wrong specially when tey have sex i dot whach porno though so im not sure what they do i dont theink theyr realy hjave sex its all just pretendnig but you never no what they do its just wrong speciallly when they dont even love each other its wrong i ell you in tsi just wrong. wtings owting wtrong wtongs wtongs. i dont like it. prlease explaions.

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« Reply #131 on: December 11, 2007, 05:28:48 AM »
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R&C, Uncharted and Heavenly Sword are good enough a reason now.


I know you didn\'t say Heavenly Sword was good enough. It most certainly isn\'t.  The other two, I would maybe give you, but it still doesn\'t justify the price tag.  Just like I didn\'t buy a 360 until about a year after launch, as none of it\'s games justified the price tag.
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« Reply #132 on: December 11, 2007, 05:42:55 AM »
You all forget that my opinion is universally accepted as a fact.
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« Reply #133 on: December 11, 2007, 09:00:48 AM »
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If you honestly think Sony done a  lot of things right with the PS3, you\'re crazy. The game library is dismal at best, the launch price was outrageous and so far, Cell has been nothing but hype and no substance. And don\'t even get me started  on their half-baked network. You may pay for Live, but as far as it goes, Live offers a lot better service than the current version of the PSN.

I dont even understand what you are trying to proove. You arent saying anything new or different as usual and it doesnt contradict anywhere what I said

Your observations exist because Sony lagged behind as I mentioned already.

I ve seen and played many fun games on both the PS3 and 360 and enjoyed their online offerings thank you.

Hopefully I ll be the owner of both soon
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« Reply #134 on: December 11, 2007, 09:56:04 AM »
Sony did hit a few hurdles early on....they actually stated that there was no need to have multiple consoles at different prices like the 360, yet later on they did the exact same thing. I was pissed with how sony handled the ps3 this gen...mainly because of the price,....i mean when they announced the price at it\'s unvailing all you heard in the crowd was ohhhh! and that\'s oohhh in a bad way, i knew from the jump that the price would hurt this thing, but sony thought with extreme arrogance that their name alone and prior success would have everybody gunnin\' for it.

80g, 40g 60g...sony has been all over the place with it\'s console.... why?...it\'s the price...but there\'s one thing i\'ve kinda always hated about both ms and sony and that is that both are always tryin to be the all-in-one...i would be happy if the ps3 just played games and that\'s it....i\'m sure blu-ray and hd-dvd have superior enhancements over regular dvd, but it\'s not big enough for me to actually call for an upgrade, and even when i do upgrade i\'ll probably end up buyin a stand alone unit anyway....unless the blu-ray player in the ps3 is really on a high mark performance wise as a higher end unit.
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