Will Warner Brothers go exclusive?

[Titan]

A lot of players can do both now. If this ends in a stalemate, I\'ll just get that. It seems studios prefer one over the other.

[Viper_Fujax]

A lot of players can do both now. If this ends in a stalemate, I\'ll just get that. It seems studios prefer one over the other.

huh? I\'ve only seen one that had Hd-dvd and blu-ray and it wasnt out yet.

I\'d probably get that if the price was like 300 max, and i was in a spending mood

[Titan]

huh? I\'ve only seen one that had Hd-dvd and blu-ray and it wasnt out yet.

I\'d probably get that if the price was like 300 max, and i was in a spending mood

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8504709&type=product&id=1186004964788
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8203311&type=product&id=1165610378688

There\'s two at least. Sold out and didn\'t even get good reviews.

[Viper_Fujax]

a grand? jesus...

[quote[It doesn\'t work with any of the current players.[/quote]

Nor does any of the current blu-ray players work with blu-ray 1.2 or 1.3
Blu spec has yet to be finalized, so those who own current blu-ray players get screwed, as for HD-DVD triple layer does not affect them cause the main movie will not be stored on the third layer only the extra features, and that is only going to happen when demand increases.

Blu-ray was rushed, it\'s exspensive, region restricted, it\'s DRM infested much worse than HD-DVD(BD+) and it\'s library is Dire. HD-DVD has support of many of the independant studios meaning the quality movies. Blu-ray library is mostly comprised of mainstream films, most the movies i see that are good are on HD-DVD. on a side note most people associate blu-ray with SONY and want it to fail, such as me.

By the way I Own a Pioneer Elite BDP-95FD Blu-ray player(came free with the purchase of my 60inch 8G Kuro Pioneer 1080P plasma Elite)

The PS3 has the fastest bootup of any Hi Def player on the market (BR and HD DVD players

We do not want a Game console for playing our HD movies, but yes PS3 will be Blu-ray 1.3 compliant with firmware upgrade. Quality Dedicated player is still better.

FUCK both the studios, they are grafting us.

Winner = Dual Format Player and it will happen.

HD movies sales is 2% of the market while DVD is 97%

HD-DVD has support of many of the independant studios meaning the quality movies.

Come again?

i guess he means crap like hot fuzz.

perhaps he doesn\'t remember when DVD players were 1000$+ and there was very little software available.

i guess he means crap like hot fuzz.

perhaps he doesn\'t remember when DVD players were 1000$+ and there was very little software available.

Can\'t even compare them, to be honest.  Once DVD prices dropped, they offered something that the public could really see a difference in. The HD formats don\'t.

Remember, it wasn\'t visual quality / sound quality that truly sold DVD to Joe6Pack, it was things like "deleted scenes", "extended versions", "slipcases" and the collectors mentality. It was the first time that people could buy movies brand new for around $20 - $30 bucks. And then there is the whole thing that people were growing tired of bulky VHS tapes, with no place to store them.

The HD format relies on so much for the user to actually take advantage of it, it almost kills itself. You need a good TV, you need a good player, you need decent cables and then you need the proper viewing distance (which, I guarantee most American\'s have no clue about. I know I get funny looks at work, when I tell them I rearranged my living room for my HD). None of those problems really plagued DVD and if they did, they was offset by the features that DVD offered overs VHS.

[GmanJoe]

HD movies sales is 2% of the market while DVD is 97%

I wish I could find the article about how no one would buy DVDs because people already bought the movies in VHS. There was more to it...but it sounds very much like today\'s argument against Hi-Def players.

I wish I could find the article about how no one would buy DVDs because people already bought the movies in VHS. There was more to it...but it sounds very much like today\'s argument against Hi-Def players.

Minus the fact the market has changed and there is a ton of other variables?

[GmanJoe]

Minus the fact the market has changed and there is a ton of other variables?

If you read it, you\'d be amazed how nearly identical it is with what everyone is saying. But more people will switch to HD, eventually. Especially after 2009 when everything goes digital. Tubers will have little to choice by then unless they buy a converter.

In 5 years, maybe we can bump this thread and see who\'s right? If most people haven\'t gone HD by then, that\'s too bad. I have a feeling people will want to upgrade, though.

[Titan]

I think within the next few years, there will be a lot of people switching over to HD. I know I\'m planning on it. The only people who won\'t are the ones that rarely watch TV. Eventually everything will be HD and you\'ll only be able to buy an HD set. Also, I expect the prices to fall so Joe6Pack will be able to get one and a blu-ray or HD DVD player.

The situation is radically different, many people whom own digital HDTV TV\'s are very happy with there dvd\'s up-scaled. Comparing the VHS to DVD transition is a total apples to orange comparison when dealing with DVD to HD

I guess he means crap like hot fuzz.

No I mean mainstream crap which is what currently comprises blu-ray. Even HD-DVD has the mainstream Hollywood crap but the main difference is that HD-DVD has released a better selection for there library and will only improve further since as I stated before, HD-DVD has all the independent Studios backing it, not blu-ray which means all those quality indie movies are exclusive to HD-DVD. This is what perplexes me about your blu-ray stance mm I was under the impression that you hated most of the mainstream Hollywood Dribble, your not going to be able to watch many of those classics in blu-ray since they will be HD-DVD only.

Well, see, the thing is , it\'s convenient  for him to now go along with the whole INDIE = CRAP argument. Any other time, he\'d bitch about the mainstream films sucking...And now, with this post, he\'ll whine about how people are twisting his words.

MM = King of backtracking.

[Titan]

Sometimes I feel that this is mm