Devs putting PS3 first !

[Viper_Fujax]

Companies really have to step up and rethink the marketing. Look at Mass Effect, go ahead and YouTube some E3 builds of it. It is amazing how much that title changed and how much of it was cut on the editing floor. A lot of things were promised and never delivered. Was it still a great game? Sure, but when I look back at what was promised, I can\'t help but feel let down. A feeling that could of been totally avoided, had Bioware kept their game development more closed or simply delivered on what they promised on the first place.

thats really true. AC was supposed to be THE game that defined "next gen"..and if that\'s the case than next gen is more focused on looks than gameplay, which is actually pretty accurate. but the way they were hyping it, gameplay sounded like it was going to be revolutionary to people. I\'m a pessimist, so im never disappointed,lol.

we\'re also comparing titles that are released lately or some time ago.

i\'ll be surprised if PS3 titles don\'t take better advantage of hardware throughout 08 and run better than their 360 counterparts.

we\'re also comparing titles that are released lately or some time ago.

i\'ll be surprised if PS3 titles don\'t take better advantage of hardware throughout 08 and run better than their 360 counterparts.

You may be right , but to play devils advocate, history has shown you may be wrong. Your whole argument is based on the fact that the PS3 has superior hardware and because of the difficulity of developing, we won\'t see the advantage until later in the year. This is the same exact argument the Saturn used, as it had vastly superior hardware and while it did eventually show , it was way to late in the consoles life. If sales don\'t increase for Sony enough to warrant developers to put more exclusive titles on the system, we are going to continue to see ports and ports that are shoddy.

im just kind of tired of games taking forever to be released, and almost never living up to expectations because in the many years it takes to make that one game, people talk about it for every day, 365 days. And games like MGS are really the only ones using the ps3\'s potential..everything since then can run on the 360 just as well..and no games after MGS in the near future is coming out that is using the ps3 like that.

for me to spend the extra money, ill need more games to not only be like MGS, but for the games to actually be released instead of just hearsay and \'i cant wait\'

if i were these companies, i wouldnt talk about the game 4 years in advance. I\'d say \'yes, its coming out\' and never talk about it until its far in development. maybe a year before the release at most, while expecting some delays

Oh I understand now what you are saying.

Yeah both consoles are very close in terms of visuals. They are technically too close too. But I think the PS3 has some other great looking games on it except from the unreleased MGS, GT, FF(the new trailer looks mindblowing btw) etc. I think the nature of these games kind of excuses the delays though (reasons unrelated to the difficulty of development) and it is natural for people to talk about these, knowing the huge fanbase and the impact they had in the past.

But I ve played Uncharted, Rachet and Clank, and Heavenly Sword on it and they are doing great things on the console, and things that probably would have taken a bit of extra work to appear on the 360 or even be forced to change the design of the games.

Generally I agree though that they are way too close in their offerings currently. The majority of great games are multipltform, with only a very few exceptional exclusives doing some differentiation. Wether someone will go to the 360 or the PS3 it will depend on his personal tastes.

I ve many times found myself in a difficult position when I was asked by my friends or relatives what console to buy (everyone seems to come to me for some reason ), and I would spend hours with them in shops or at my house (showing them information, games and footage) until they decided which one to get since the line of difference is too thin in terms of software quality.

Some went with a 360, some with a PS3, and they were all equally satisfied at the end.

Two games where PS3 has been the lead platform, the results are in.

Burnout Paradise (based on DEMO): PS3 version, silky smooth 60fps. 360-version, has some slowdowns.

Devil May Cry 4 - Very close but the 360 version has some slowdowns + screentearing according to sources while the PS3 version is 60fps solid. Talk of some downgraded enemies on 360, not confirmed.

Both games are out Q1 2008.

i\'ll be surprised if PS3 titles don\'t take better advantage of hardware throughout 08 and run better than their 360 counterparts.

This will mostly be true when talking about exclusive games. I think very few multiplatform games will truly shine on PS3 as they are often developed with the weaker platform in mind (360). Sure some framerate advatage might be there (DMC4, BP etc) like with PS2 vs Xbox but not much more. :/

Anyway, PS3s power has already been shown in the exclusive titles and as of right now it looks like the 360 cant keep up in terms of tech-awesomness. Not surprising.

I just want to know what exclusive titles have shown the "tech-awesomness", because I sure haven\'t seen any.

besides GT5 prologue?

You mean, a racing game that is pathetic backgrounds. And in all honesty, doesn\'t look all that revolutionary. Much like GT3, a product of it\'s own hype. Yea, the cars look good, but the tree\'s and people look downright piss poor.

[BizioEE]

You mean, a racing game that is pathetic backgrounds. And in all honesty, doesn\'t look all that revolutionary. Much like GT3, a product of it\'s own hype. Yea, the cars look good, but the tree\'s and people look downright piss poor.

no one single word for you...

have you even played the demo from the japanese PSN, LIC?

i suggest it before continuing.

I just want to know what exclusive titles have shown the "tech-awesomness", because I sure haven\'t seen any.

Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, Killzone 2.. Titles that pretty much leaves the best efforts on 360 eating dust.

While GT5P might have a few problems, it still pwns Forza 2 which basically looks like Forza HD.

Killzone 2? Oh my god, let me just laugh now. A game that is not OUT and the developers have already admitted to "touching up" the photos that are out of it.  

Rachet and Clank  - Yes, good looking , but nowhere near great.

Uncharted - I\'ll give you this one.

GT - Every single one of those look good in replays, but they really aren\'t all that impressive. Then again, I don\'t remember the last time a racing game impressed me. Wow, a more detailed car, going around a track. Yippie.  Then again, GT also doesn\'t feature real time damage , dynamic weather and what not. Sure does free up a lot of resources when you neglect things that most standard racing games have now\'a\'days.

Killzone 2? Oh my god, let me just laugh now. A game that is not OUT and the developers have already admitted to "touching up" the photos that are out of it.  

Yes, doing a little adjusting of the contrast is such a serious crime!
To even doubt Killzone 2s technical potency after all the devs have shown. Shame on you. Go download the trailer and all the walkthrough videos that are out there.
Guerrilla Games is not trying to fool anyone, they have been extremely open about everything, there are no smoke and mirrors with this game.

Rachet and Clank  - Yes, good looking , but nowhere near great.

Still better than anything on the other platforms.

Seeing a next gen game running in 60fps is so rare I want to cry.

Your Killzone 2 hype reminds me of the original Killzone hype. Turned out to be a big disappointment. Expect the same.

Your Killzone 2 hype reminds me of the original Killzone hype. Turned out to be a big disappointment. Expect the same.

Eh.. no.

The difference is quite big. Back then GG was independent, KZ1s idea was awesome but they didnt manage to pull through on all levels. Plus the development was very hush-hush compared to now.

This time its quite clear how much they have grown. GG is owned by Sony, they are being assisted in all ways possible by SCEWWS.
This time they have past experience to go on, they have taken a great deal of feedback based on Killzone 1, and they are ready to start up the beta processes (open beta) in the next year. They are really asking for player input.

People have already been given the chance to play the game, go ahead and read N’Gai Croals glowing impressions.


http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/levelup/archive/2007/07/12/world-exclusive-expanded-details-on-killzone-2.aspx

Its clear that todays GG are much different from the newly hatched GG which developed Killzone 1.