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Offline Unicron!
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2008, 02:50:38 AM »
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The "small" additions were sometimes not even additions at all.  Look at GT2 to GT3.  They CUT content out to make it look nicer.  Yes, the physics improve, and yes the graphics are always top notch, but ultimately it feels like a tech demo to a lot of us.  I\'m hoping the online play will add some depth and bring some life into the tired series because I really loved GT1 and 2.
That "lot of us" is an insignificant number compared to the millions that bought the game and liked it. I repeat GT3 wasnt my favorite cup of tea either.

Despite that I find it selfish to over criticize a game simply because we dont like it, bought it for the graphics or [insert any other reason] while ignoring those that love it with a passion even for the "additions" that were made.

GT3 lost content btw because of time and budget constraints. Not simply to make it "look nicer". Needed much more resources to produce than on the PS1.
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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2008, 03:45:53 AM »
Bitch bitch bitch. The game looks awesome and the GT series has always been great for car/racing enthusiasts.
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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2008, 04:02:23 AM »
Negative opinion of a game based on its previous iterations is not the same as bitching.  The game isn\'t for everyone.  Not all of us have 24 hours to sit down and do one race, and not all of us find racing some of the same tracks we\'ve been racing since 1997 is fun anymore.
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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2008, 05:32:07 AM »
Not bitching, just not interested.  I\'ve owned this game 3 times already ;)

Looks really good though, I was always amazed with A-spec on ps2.. to this day I can\'t believe how good that game looks.  Polyphony knows their shit, but I they should being this is the only game they make every 5 years or so.

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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2008, 08:24:22 AM »
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Polyphony knows their shit, but I they should being this is the only game they make every 5 years or so.

For a good reason considering the huge reasources needed for it though ;)

It needs one dedicated team specialized only on that to be able to produce a game with such massive attention to detail, amount of cars etc every few years.

I doubt it would have been possible to have the same game if PD was spending time on multiple IPs.

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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2008, 11:04:27 AM »
I\'ve heard it all now, it\'s "selfish" to criticize a game you don\'t like.

Brilliant. Just fuckin\' brilliant.

And I don\'t care why GT3 lost content compared to the previous. I don\'t need excuses. The fact remains it did lose content and in that respect, it is a lesser sequel. Yes, even with the pretty graphics.

As for GT4, it looks to be more of the same.. A fresh coat of paint and nothing else.
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« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2008, 11:19:05 AM »
There\'s a review by a F1 driver who reviewed the GT5:Prologue. He said it\'s the most accurate console game he\'s ever tried. Of course, he turned off all the torque assist, brake assist....pretty much all the doodads that make GT a semi-simulator.

Sure the game might be boring for those who just want all out arcade fun. But GT5 is for those who appreciate the nuances of different cars and the tracks they\'re on. One could enjoy the game by not racing any of the AI at all and just use the tracks for applying in real life. I know Nurburgring is one I would like to test out one day - in real life. Guess what I\'ll be using for practice while I\'m not in Germany?

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« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2008, 01:54:39 PM »
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yada yada.

Actually the point is that it doesnt matter what you think, whether you personally hate the game, call it boring or whatever as long as the game has everything a car simulation fan wants and the game thrives with quality for what is trying to be.

If the game doesnt satisfy your personal tastes it doesnt make it bad. The only bad thing is someone who has ego problems and things that his opinion/taste is the ultimate opinion and anyone who things otherwise is wrong.

Oh and relax its a game. If someone doesnt follow your opinion its OK.
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« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2008, 03:18:24 PM »
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Actually the point is that it doesnt matter what you think, whether you personally hate the game, call it boring or whatever as long as the game has everything a car simulation fan wants and the game thrives with quality for what is trying to be.

If the game doesnt satisfy your personal tastes it doesnt make it bad. The only bad thing is someone who has ego problems and things that his opinion/taste is the ultimate opinion and anyone who things otherwise is wrong.

Oh and relax its a game. If someone doesnt follow your opinion its OK.

How can a car simulation offer everything a fan wants, when it doesn\'t have variable weather and car damage?

Right...
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« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2008, 03:20:19 PM »
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Actually the point is that it doesnt matter what you think, whether you personally hate the game, call it boring or whatever as long as the game has everything a car simulation fan wants and the game thrives with quality for what is trying to be.

If the game doesnt satisfy your personal tastes it doesnt make it bad. The only bad thing is someone who has ego problems and things that his opinion/taste is the ultimate opinion and anyone who things otherwise is wrong.

Oh and relax its a game. If someone doesnt follow your opinion its OK.


Wow, you\'re delusional.

He never said it was bad, he said he found it boring, nor did he say his opinion was the correct one.  Oh and you and samwise are the two with the panties in a bunch over a few negative opinions.
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« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2008, 03:49:13 PM »
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Wow, you\'re delusional.

He never said it was bad, he said he found it boring, nor did he say his opinion was the correct one.  Oh and you and samwise are the two with the panties in a bunch over a few negative opinions.


Obviously only positive / popular opinion is welcome here.

Hell, I even stated that..

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I prefer the arcade style stuff.


He just wants a reason to bitch and pick a fight. As usual. You\'ll note he didn\'t even mention other people\'s post. Just mine.
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« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2008, 03:52:56 PM »
It\'s because you\'re a douchebag.
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« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2008, 03:55:41 PM »
I\'ll get this game on day one, I\'m crazy for cars and racing game,most of all simulation racing game...
...but I may understand it\'s not for everyone; someone loves it and some other find it boring...the beauty of taste and opinions...
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« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2008, 05:16:29 PM »
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How can a car simulation offer everything a fan wants, when it doesn\'t have variable weather and car damage?

Right...
Ask the fans. The fact that it managed to capture them even with the lack of those shows how well done everything else was. And since you admit that it is just you then why do you suddenly take position and speak on behalf of those fans by bringing those arguments about the lack of "variable weather conditions" and "car damage"?

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Wow, you\'re delusional.

He never said it was bad, he said he found it boring, nor did he say his opinion was the correct one.  Oh and you and samwise are the two with the panties in a bunch over a few negative opinions.
Boring for him doesnt make the game boring.

Oh and btw he was the one who got annoyed and quoted me first. I didnt even refer to his post.
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« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2008, 06:32:34 PM »
You lack reading comprehension, but have fun in your little world.  Didn\'t even read his post?  You quoted him.


:confused: Your logic amazes me sometimes.
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