Obama and his Pastor

[videoholic]

ANd lack of experience..  Also his bogus promises that will be impossible for him to really do anything about.

[Viper_Fujax]

lack of experience can be looked at in both ways. Some people want experience, some people like the idea of someone not jaded by all the bs politics that has dragged the government down.

and the bogus promises fall under the ideas with nothing backing it up that clinton and mccain rode for a while.

[clips]

Well,..whoever the next prez is,..the problems that we have now will not be solved within the next 4 years,..it\'s going to take alot of work for the u.s. to see a surplus in the budget, fix the housing mess, and repair the economy, but with the war taking a huge chunk out of the u.s. finances(we\'re even borrowing money from china) i don\'t see a chance at recovery at all.....one thing is certain tho....i don\'t see how the u.s. can maintain spending millions on iraq every month for the next 5 - 10 ten years....Bush is acting like this war doesn\'t affect the economy...it does..and if the u.s. congress doesn\'t send him a bill that has money for the war, he vetos it...:rolleyes:


It\'s like he doesn\'t care what the country is going through, you\'d just better make sure you have money to support the war....Bush is going to leave a dark legacy behind when we look back at his eight years in office...somer people say he had it rough since 9/11....i don\'t think so,....i agreed with us going into afghanastan(spel).....but iraq?...even i knew that was a wrong decision from the very beginning,...he was really just focused on invading iraq,..even when n.korea at the time was poppin s**t like..."we will bring death to america"...bush & co. just totally ignored those threats and focused on somebody that had nothing to do with 9/11, but was an objective that bush must\'ve thought was an easy target, and someone to make an example out of...5 years later and now this war that was suppossed to be a walk in the park is a foregin policy nightmare for the u.s. and with all of the country\'s(u.s. allies) practically gone, we\'re wingin\' this by ourselves,....whelp bush stated in the very beginning that he would go it alone, and i guess he finally got his wish...

It\'s all water under the bridge now, but i know that this war is putting a strangle hold on the economy...banks are folding,..people are losin\' jobs and nobody is gettin\' raises on a yearly basis anymore,..s**t is really scary out there...i just don\'t see somewhat of a recovery until we stop spending and borrowing millions to fund this war,..it\'ll be a start when we get out of iraq....

[Paul2]

politics is so confusing and complex for me to even grasp.

[Viper_Fujax]

politics is so confusing and complex for me to even grasp.

the whole system is such a cluster fuck, most of america (including me) is the same. hence why its so hard to decide who to vote for, and why its so easy for people to get swayed from one candidate to another..and usually end up hating either one when theyre in office.

[Paul2]

speaking of system, what do you guys think of our school system?  do you think we need to modernize it a bit?  Do you guys think grades are that important?  Does grades really that has that much impact on our jobs?

[Viper_Fujax]

our school system\'s a joke. In cali, our governor says our children are our future, yet we had around 1500 teachers lose their jobs in san diego because of budget cuts. Now these public schools, who like 25 people classrooms, are going to have a bunch more students in each class to make up for it.

not to mention schools in the poorer neighborhoods have insanely out of date books. But if we\'re 50 bazillion dollars in debt (like clips was referring to), how can we properly fund our education system?

and yea, grades matter..its obvious the better you do in school, the farther you get in college, the better starting salary you get on average. of course there\'s exceptions to the rule. The only thing overtaking the importance of grades is the importance of interpersonal skills, but even then I think you need above a 3.0 GPA to excel. I have the 3.0, but my people skills suck,haha..i have more time to dick around though

[Paul2]

speaking of requiring 3 GPA or higher.  What if this person is good at one subject but bad at the rest.  Say he have A on Arts, but Ds on the rest of the subject?  what do you think?  That means he probably doesn\'t get the 3 GPA.  But he\'s really good at one subject.  So does grade is really that mportant to him since he struggles with the other subjects?

Or how about say he\'s really good at a like a couple subjects, like science, and math, but the rest he suck at.  Do you guys think it\'s necessary for every one to be good at every subjects?

How about he is good at physical education and sports, but he is not good at the rest of other subjects.  Can he still succeed in life?  obviously, the other subjects doesn\'t interest him...

[Viper_Fujax]

that\'s why you major in whatever your good at. There\'s GE\'s that everyone has to take, but theyre all passable..can even look at ratemyprofessor to find easy ones in the subjects you really suck at. If you can\'t pass the GE\'s, or sit in class, then you dont go to college. And most people manage whether they go to college or not.

plus the whole arguement of "success" being arbitrary. For someone into art, success is usually doing something they like to do, science and math is usually the same and they find it challenging in a good way, business is based on money, etc etc.

Can\'t really talk for people that decide to skip college since most people i know went, but there\'s definitly a huge immediate loss to going to college that some people can\'t afford..if thats the case, from what i\'ve seen, theyre usually on an extremely limited budget for a loong time

(paul hijacked the thread btw..not me )

[Titan]

Well,..whoever the next prez is,..the problems that we have now will not be solved within the next 4 years,..it\'s going to take alot of work for the u.s. to see a surplus in the budget, fix the housing mess, and repair the economy, but with the war taking a huge chunk out of the u.s. finances(we\'re even borrowing money from china) i don\'t see a chance at recovery at all.....one thing is certain tho....i don\'t see how the u.s. can maintain spending millions on iraq every month for the next 5 - 10 ten years....Bush is acting like this war doesn\'t affect the economy...it does..and if the u.s. congress doesn\'t send him a bill that has money for the war, he vetos it...:rolleyes:


It\'s like he doesn\'t care what the country is going through, you\'d just better make sure you have money to support the war....Bush is going to leave a dark legacy behind when we look back at his eight years in office...somer people say he had it rough since 9/11....i don\'t think so,....i agreed with us going into afghanastan(spel).....but iraq?...even i knew that was a wrong decision from the very beginning,...he was really just focused on invading iraq,..even when n.korea at the time was poppin s**t like..."we will bring death to america"...bush & co. just totally ignored those threats and focused on somebody that had nothing to do with 9/11, but was an objective that bush must\'ve thought was an easy target, and someone to make an example out of...5 years later and now this war that was suppossed to be a walk in the park is a foregin policy nightmare for the u.s. and with all of the country\'s(u.s. allies) practically gone, we\'re wingin\' this by ourselves,....whelp bush stated in the very beginning that he would go it alone, and i guess he finally got his wish...

It\'s all water under the bridge now, but i know that this war is putting a strangle hold on the economy...banks are folding,..people are losin\' jobs and nobody is gettin\' raises on a yearly basis anymore,..s**t is really scary out there...i just don\'t see somewhat of a recovery until we stop spending and borrowing millions to fund this war,..it\'ll be a start when we get out of iraq....

Did you see the 60 minutes interview with the FBI agent that interrogated Saddam? He asked about WMDs and the insurgency and Saddam basically stated that he had WMDs but destroyed them when the UN inspectors came. He said he kept the charade up that he had them because he was afraid if Iran knew he didn\'t have anything that they would have invaded. Pretty much a bluff so he had some type of bargaining chip. Saddam also knew the insurgency was going to happen. He knew what we were about to face. I recommend youtubing it because its really good. His bluff must have been so good our "top-notch" CIA believed it as well as our president.

[Titan]

that\'s why you major in whatever your good at. There\'s GE\'s that everyone has to take, but theyre all passable..can even look at ratemyprofessor to find easy ones in the subjects you really suck at. If you can\'t pass the GE\'s, or sit in class, then you dont go to college. And most people manage whether they go to college or not.

plus the whole arguement of "success" being arbitrary. For someone into art, success is usually doing something they like to do, science and math is usually the same and they find it challenging in a good way, business is based on money, etc etc.

Can\'t really talk for people that decide to skip college since most people i know went, but there\'s definitly a huge immediate loss to going to college that some people can\'t afford..if thats the case, from what i\'ve seen, theyre usually on an extremely limited budget for a loong time

(paul hijacked the thread btw..not me )

Agreed. I major in two things I\'m good at. I\'m a radio/tv/film major but doing the emphasis on production in tv and film so I can be a cinematographer or videographer maybe doing some editing. I\'ll get a chance to do it all so I\'ll have good career training. My other major is basically to improve my communication skills because my communications and people skills were lacking. Because of it, I am a hell of a lot better at communicating with people which will serve me well within my career. My prospective employers will be pretty impressed (at least that\'s the plan) as well as if I pass my honors concentration. As long as I keep the path I am (which I actually recessed a bit this semester *sigh*) I\'m hoping to have a good head start at graduation.

[Viper_Fujax]

Agreed. I major in two things I\'m good at. I\'m a radio/tv/film major but doing the emphasis on production in tv and film so I can be a cinematographer or videographer maybe doing some editing. I\'ll get a chance to do it all so I\'ll have good career training. My other major is basically to improve my communication skills because my communications and people skills were lacking. Because of it, I am a hell of a lot better at communicating with people which will serve me well within my career. My prospective employers will be pretty impressed (at least that\'s the plan) as well as if I pass my honors concentration. As long as I keep the path I am (which I actually recessed a bit this semester *sigh*) I\'m hoping to have a good head start at graduation.

i wish i liked something that could be a career,lol. Im just doing business management because it was the only broad thing i could use, since i looked through the majors 20 times and found nothing interesting.

but i am doing business stats this semester and doing well/liking it, so maybe there\'s some hope itll click. Main thing stopping me is im a kick ass indian, but a bad chief, so business management doesnt really cator to what im good at. Managing people i definitly need to get better, but as for having a bunch of numbers and pieceing it all together to make a decision i think ill be fine at.

[Titan]

i wish i liked something that could be a career,lol. Im just doing business management because it was the only broad thing i could use, since i looked through the majors 20 times and found nothing interesting.

but i am doing business stats this semester and doing well/liking it, so maybe there\'s some hope itll click. Main thing stopping me is im a kick ass indian, but a bad chief, so business management doesnt really cator to what im good at. Managing people i definitly need to get better, but as for having a bunch of numbers and pieceing it all together to make a decision i think ill be fine at.

Take an organizational communication course if you can. It will teach you about organizations such as business. You may gain some insight to how people communicate within an organization and can make your own management style.

I\'m lucky my college offered something I was interested in. I\'ve always liked photography and growing up, I used to mess around with our camcorder making home movies and stuff. Just kind of natural I want to work a camera. What I want to do I don\'t know. I just know I want to be in the field. I\'d like to do videography for shows like Dirty Jobs, Deadliest Catch or try my hand at nature documentaries and stuff or film movies or tv shows. I\'d like to be a director of photography some day. But we\'ll see.

[clips]

Damn you Paul!!!.......but it\'s good hear you guys doin\' yer thing,..yea word up,..get that money son!...yo, represent for the cream...tru dat,..chea,...keep it hood pimpin\'.....hmmm....maybe i need to take a communications and english major?.....seriously guys keep up the good work,...i myself didn\'t go to college, not because i couldn\'t,..i just knew it wasn\'t for me...so i ended up going to a technical school for computers and right after i finished training in that particular school things just fell into place after that..


The last place i worked for before i moved to georgia was a major insurance co and i worked for them for 16 years straight outta highschool....and while working in their data center they actually paid for classes that we wanted to take,..which at the time was alot of excell, access, and mainframe and operating system classes,...now that i\'m working for Coke,...i\'m already takin\'  Linux and Unix refresher classes for free, and i\'m already lined up to take a networking class when that\'s over,....it\'s just one of the advantages of workin\' for a big company as it seems they want their employees to stay on top of the latest tech,...it also buffs up my resume a bit...

I wish WB would pay for my college