The Slip

[GmanJoe]

Plus the court order about not being within 100 yards of each other. How you managed to put that thing in his nose.....nevermind.

Well I downloaded it, I wish Trent would don his guitar more. Not a fan of all this techno\'ish stuff.

I dont i liked him more when he was technoie/industrial. every thing i\'ve heard from him i compare to downward spiral and must stuff just doesnt hold up

I like both.

I love Broken.
I love The Downward Spiral.

Year Zero is one of my favorite NIN albums. I love NIN. Look at my avatar. I don\'t really like The Slip though. Its garbage.

Just Phil. I don\'t want him whining about an iPhone the whole time I\'m there.

Fuck you too

Year Zero is one of my favorite NIN albums. I love NIN. Look at my avatar. I don\'t really like The Slip though. Its garbage.

To each his own. I would say Year Zero is closer to the garbage scale.

Because we all know \'Ghosts\' was a commercially viable album?

Right.

Try again.

Want a band that lost their edge? Radiohead. They\'ve sucked ever since Kid A (and that is debatable, as OK COMPUTER was their really only great album).

why not?  there was pretty much zero production value.
trent even admitted songs were ad-libbed and were not written.

easy to pick one album, there\'s several before \'ghosts\' that trent embraced the MTV crowd with.

radiohead can\'t decide what they want to be.
should have stuck to rock.  they\'re much better at it.

Which albums before Ghosts?

The Fragile didn\'t embrace the MTV crowd.

With Teeth, I could agree with.
Year Zero is debatable.

Ghosts itself, didn\'t. Just because the songs where not wrote per say, doesn\'t mean anything. The whole album is nothing an experiment.

Radiohead has sucked since Kid A, and OK Computer is their only great album?

Are you one of those fairweather fans that pines to see them play Creep live or something? They don\'t make music for you, dude, they make it for me.

I downloaded The Slip. It\'s very mediocre. Trent has been on a slow downward spiral since... well... The Downward Spiral.

The Downward Spiral is his crowning achievement, The Fragile is above-average but has a ton of filler, With Teeth is solid, Year Zero should have been at least 5 songs shorter, Ghosts served its purpose, and The Slip feels like twice-reheated Year Zero.

Musically? Fun to listen to, especially Discipline. Lyrically? Horrible. Probably because Trent really only writes one type of song, and he\'s gotten into a bad holding pattern since With Teeth.

Unlike Radiohead, who have evolved on a constant basis from day one.

That said, NIN is still one of the country\'s premier rock acts. I just think that Trent needs to grow up and try new things. Hopefully The Slip will be the last album in this "cycle" and he can start fresh. Speaking of Radiohead again, Hail to the Thief is arguably their weakest record since their 1993 debut simply because it was essentially a mix of everything that they\'d done prior. It was the end of the 3-album cycle that began with Kid A, and while it was a great record... it showed signs of malaise. Considering how fresh and exciting Radiohead is normally.

In Rainbows was their light at the end of the tunnel, and it was massive. Much different than HTTT conceptually, but also much better. Maybe Trent can make the same evolution.

God bless him for the 1.2GB WAV download, though.

I love when Radiohead fans get their panties into a wad. No, I don\'t care for Creep, in fact, I would say Creep was very medicore overall. It was just yet another alt-rock song.  I listened to their latest stuff and it just isn\'t all that. In fact, it comes off as trying to be different, for the sake of being different. That doesn\'t exactly make it good music.

The Downward Spiral is his crowning achievement, The Fragile is above-average but has a ton of filler, With Teeth is solid, Year Zero should have been at least 5 songs shorter, Ghosts served its purpose, and The Slip feels like twice-reheated Year Zero.

So much wrong with this. The Fragile didn\'t have a lot of "filler". It was a damn good album overall. With Teeth, I would say was a bit to rockish and is the worst NiN album. Year Zero, not a huge fan of it either, but Ghosts and The Slip are both great albums, more so with Ghosts.

And let\'s not even get started on how Trent / NiN is doing more for the industry than Radiohead ever has. Radiohead makes big news by releasing low quality versions of their newest album on their site, where as Trent is releasing whole albums, multi-tracks for remixing and encouraging his fans to enjoy the music.

P.S  - HTTT and In Rainbows both sucked donkey cock.

With that also said, neither band have the lasting power of David Ruffin.

Never was a big fan of Radiohead until lately, but "In Rainbows" gets constant attention in my zune at work during the 8 to 5.  Did not like it after the first listen... but now, damn.. so good.

Love old NIN.. bought "The Fragile" the day it came out, listened to it for a week or two.. and never listened to it since.  Haven\'t listened to anything of Reznor since then

OK Computer is Radiohead\'s finest moment.

The Fragile is maybe Reznors finest moment (IMO).

The Fragile suffers from what HTTT suffered from... lil\' too long, unfocused. Except that The Fragile has over 10 more tracks than HTTT.

The Pitchfork Media review is very exaggerated, but I generally agree with it.

That said, The Fragile > everything that he has done since.

I agree that Radiohead probably hit their absolute peak with OK Computer, but Kid A is a close second. They have one mediocre album in their entire discography, and that is Pablo Honey.

All IMO, of course.

I\'ll agree with the fact that Pablo Honey is complete crap. I remember buying that after checking Ok Computer and Kid A (Both albums that I friggin\' love) and I listened to it once and never had the desire to listen to it again.

You want an artist that quickly went down the shitter? Marilyn Manson. Sure, he was never great to begin with, but the AntiChrist Superstar album was fantastic. The two following that were merely OK and this last one, well, it\'s just terrible. In fact, for fun, check out this performance .

[nO-One]

I actually hated Hail to to the Thief to begin with, but.... it grew on me as tracks kept coming on (I use shuffle a lot) All in all, I\'d say HTTT is one of my fav Radiohead albums.

As for NiN, I have so much respect for Trent and the band.... but I don\'t really like the music that much. But The Downward Spiral, Pretty Hate Machine and the Fragile would be the albums I listen to the most. Ohh and The Perfect Drug, awesome fucking song, it came on the shuffle yesterday, I had forgotten how much that song rocks.... well the first half at least.