Dmx caught speeding...

Making a decision to exceed the speed limit is something that can be done in a safe way, or in a reckless way.  It\'s not a simple black / white , good / bad choice.
 
A person can drive 65 mph and be compliant with the law, but if that person drives 71 and is ticketed for exceeding the speed limit, can we condemn them for endangering the lives of others by "racing" on public roads?  That depends on the circumstances.
 
Traffic volume, weather, and the condition of the road surface are all variables that should figure into the estimation of what a "safe" speed is for a particular road.  The skill of the driver and the type of vehicle are also important factors.  Some vehicles are simply safer at high speeds than others.  I\'m reminded of this every time I drive a rental car and I cringe at the poor handling and braking capabilities of the crappy mass market vehicles that most drivers are crippled with.
 
I\'m not arguing that we should have variable speed limits for different drivers.  Nor am I defending DMX.  He was driving >114 mph in a 1960\'s chevy nova on a freeway within city limits.  That was a stupid decision that I would never have made.  However, I have exceeded 125 mph on an interstate highway when there was no one else around, and I didn\'t endanger anyone (including myself).

I\'m suppose to cheer up because a bunch of adults are acting like children and racing?  That is the most absurd and idiotic thing I have ever read, thank you for that.

I\'m not playing any "card". I\'m stating the fuckin\' obvious. How hard is that to see?

I don\'t cater my posts to you or anyone else. I post what I am thinking at the moment and that is how I\'ll continue. If that is a problem for you, oh well. Not everyone is going to agree with you in life. Just like not everyone is going to agree in this thread.

Really, I told you to cheer up because people are racing?  All I said is that you\'re a stick in the mud and everything doesn\'t require you to be a negative nancy.  But I guess you probably get that a lot.

Oh and you\'re more than welcome to post whatever you want, I\'m merely suggesting that the stick in your ass might want some fresh air.

Traffic volume, weather, and the condition of the road surface are all variables that should figure into the estimation of what a "safe" speed is for a particular road. The skill of the driver and the type of vehicle are also important factors. Some vehicles are simply safer at high speeds than others. I\'m reminded of this every time I drive a rental car and I cringe at the poor handling and braking capabilities of the crappy mass market vehicles that most drivers are crippled with.

I\'m not arguing that we should have variable speed limits for different drivers. Nor am I defending DMX. He was driving >114 mph in a 1960\'s chevy nova on a freeway within city limits. That was a stupid decision that I would never have made. However, I have exceeded 125 mph on an interstate highway when there was no one else around, and I didn\'t endanger anyone (including myself).

I agree\'d with almost everyone you wrote until I read that you was driving 125mph on the interstate. At that point there, I say you should never be allowed to drive again. I don\'t care that you don\'t think you endangered anyone, it\'s the simple fact you were dumb enough to do it.

Also.

Making a decision to exceed the speed limit is something that can be done in a safe way, or in a reckless way. It\'s not a simple black / white , good / bad choice.

Big difference in going a few miles over the speed limit and going 120 or street racing. Big difference, don\'t try and paint it as anything else.

If you\'re going to drive that fast, you may as well get drunk and get behind the wheel. You\'re just as dangerous and idiotic.

There are speed limits and road rules for a reason. Obey them and quit trying weasel your way out of them. It\'s pathetic and childish.

You have got to be the biggest square I have ever seen.  With your thought process you really shouldn\'t drive on the highway altogether.  65mph is over 95 feet a second.  Oh, and do you ever drive tired?  You must be like someone driving 125mph or a crackhead too.

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Traffic volume, weather, and the condition of the road surface are all variables that should figure into the estimation of what a "safe" speed is for a particular road.  The skill of the driver and the type of vehicle are also important factors.  Some vehicles are simply safer at high speeds than others.   However, I have exceeded 125 mph on an interstate highway when there was no one else around, and I didn\'t endanger anyone (including myself).

I agree with this...and while my lex isn\'t a sports car,..it is considered to be a sports coupe...and i honestly must say that the car performs incredibly well at high speeds,...the times that i have taken it to about 115 - 120...there was virtually no body roll and it would still hug the corners tight...in other words,.. the car didn\'t feel nervous at that speed at all....compare that to my maxima gxe that i had before it and there was a bit of a difference..


I took my maixima to about 115 - 120 mark on interstate 78 late at night in the berkely heights area....and this area is cop free...because of the concrete divider and the solid sound barrier walls on both side of the highway for about a good 3 miles...anyway the gxe model is equipped with the soft suspension and has a more cushiony ride than the xe sport maxima...long story short...as i\'m crusin\' and i\'m coming up on a turn,...the car had some body roll to it,...it wasn\'t enough for me to lose control,..but it was enough for me to say "whoa"...this car can\'t handle high speeds like that...so yea..in agreeing with core, it does depend on the vehicle....

But in no-way am i endorsing this type of behavior,....it\'s just that with every car that i\'ve gotten *well at least cars with some performance potential*...i\'ve always at least opened them up on the road at least once,...and that doesn\'t mean always hittin\' the 115-120 mph mark...it may sometimes mean just hittin\' between that 85- 90 mph mark,....and again the conditions must be right for it.....one thing i\'ve never done tho,..is speeding and the weaving in and out of traffic thing,.....but ultimately i see what LIC is sayin\'....we really shouldn\'t be driving like that.....*but it is such a  rush*..

You have got to be the biggest square I have ever seen.  With your thought process you really shouldn\'t drive on the highway altogether.  65mph is over 95 feet a second.  Oh, and do you ever drive tired?  You must be like someone driving 125mph or a crackhead too.

You can try and twist this all you want, but breaking the speed limit or racing are both illegal for a reason.
Call me a "square". I don\'t care.  There are speed limits for a reason. Try the recommended speed limit - and while that doesn\'t guarantee safety, that at least means you\'re doing your part to be safe, to yourself and the drivers around you.
Anything other than that is you acting like a child, being reckless and not caring about yourself or the drivers around you.

Never anywhere did I state how fast I go.  For all you fucking know I was questioning your driving the speed limit always cause I like to occasionally go 5-10 over, that doesn\'t make me a childish.  I have never driven 120 but frankly I\'ll get over the fact that they do.  

This is rich, some dead end job nobody that sits in his house all day is talking down to me.

Cry some more and insult some more. That\'s fine, it just goes a long ways to establish how childish you are acting about this.
You want to twist this whole thing, but no one was talking about 5 or 10 mph over the limit. We are talking about street racing and extreme speeding. Honestly, if you can\'t keep up with the discussion, please don\'t join it.

I also never talked down to you. I simply said that if you were doing these things that are mentioned, then you are acting like a child. Please learn to read, as I and I quote said.

Try the recommended speed limit - and while that doesn\'t guarantee safety, that at least means you\'re doing your part to be safe, to yourself and the drivers around you.
Anything other than that is you acting like a child, being reckless and not caring about yourself or the drivers around you.

I never once said you were most certainly doing these things. I simply said that if you are, then you are acting like a child, by giving into this "childish" impulse and by doing so, you\'re being reckless and endangering your own life and others.

Please, learn to read and keep up with the discussion.

The sad part is, the only one with a clue on this subject is Clips, who admits he shouldn\'t do it and it\'s a childish impulse.
Also, the best part of this is I was originally talking to Clips about his opening post and then everyone else got their little panties in a bunch.

QQ some more, please.

One more thing.

I have never driven 120 but frankly I\'ll get over the fact that they do.

Are you going to feel the same way if one of them hit you at the extreme speed? Or hits someone you loves? Are you just going to "get over it"? I truly doubt it. Quit being so close minded and realize that the way people drive around you, does directly effect you. You should care that people are doing these childish and stupid things. They are putting yours and my life in danger just so they can get a rush.

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This is rich, some dead end job nobody that sits in his house all day is talking down to me.

This is me, cept without the job.

You said "try the recommended speed limit."   Anything after that comes with the assumption that I speed.  So how about you "learn to read" or just go back to your dead end job.

You said "try the recommended speed limit."   Anything after that comes with the assumption that I speed.  So how about you "learn to read" or just go back to your dead end job.

What\'s with the anger? Got a complex? I never once insulted you, in fact, you started off with the insults right out of the gate . Way to go there on discussing your point.

You have no clue what I do. How much I make . The list goes on and on, but you want to attack me personally - why? I don\'t recall you and I having words before, in fact, I\'ve never had a problem with until this thread, so what exactly is your problem all of a sudden? Because someone doesn\'t want people speeding on the roads and putting my or my kids life in danger? Gee, so sorry.

"assumption".
You shouldn\'t assume things, buddy. If you want to clarify something, please ask. Don\'t assume anything tho\', because that is where this needless confusion begins.

I simply stated that try driving the recommended speeding limit. It\'s sound advice. We have speed limits for a reason.

I didn\'t assume anything.  Your exact words were "try the recommended speed limit".  The assumption that I spoke of was you assuming that I speed from that comment.  With that said every comment after would be directed at me.  If you didn\'t intend on it coming out like that then word it better.


The insults are coming from having to read your post on here.  It\'s been painful lately.

I didn\'t assume anything.  Your exact words were "try the recommended speed limit".  The assumption that I spoke of was you assuming that I speed from that comment.  With that said every comment after would be directed at me.  If you didn\'t intend on it coming out like that then word it better.


The insults are coming from having to read your post on here.  It\'s been painful lately.

Use the ignore button.
That\'s my only advice to you. Don\'t like my posts, just put me on ignore.

I commend you on avoiding anything that I said.

I didn\'t avoid.
I\'m simply tired of discussing the same point over and over. You want to twist and wiggle out of something as very basic as a simple speed limit - so what\'s the point? It\'s like debating with a five year old on something so basic.

ME: There is a speed limit - avoid it.

You: Dead end job. Blah. Blah. What about goin five miles over it,etc?

I mean, honestly, you and others are making this into a very big deal for no reason. It\'s the most basic thing you learn as a driver. Obey the fuckin\' speed limit. How hard is that? You want to complain about camera\'s. Why? Obey the speed limit.  You want to sit here and go you\'ll "get over it" when talking about others racing on the streets. Why? What happens when they hit you? Be concerned that people are being childish and risking their life and others.

I can state this stuff over and over, but if you want to close your eyes, act like you have the answer to everything - then fine. That\'s your choice. It doesn\'t change my stance on the subject and it isn\'t going to keep me from speaking my mind on the subject. All it is goin\' to do is, as of this post, I\'m done discussing it with you.