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« Reply #75 on: June 09, 2008, 04:59:13 PM »
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"minimalizing" is not a common word. Please use "minimizing."
 
That\'s all. Carry on. :)

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« Reply #76 on: June 09, 2008, 05:11:31 PM »
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You know, there is a reason every one disagrees with your point and is "mis understanding you". Put two and two together, buddy.


There is also a reason why when politie was googling for something to back up his and Uninut\'s point he found that some white supremest/KKK Grand Wizard held the same point of view.
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« Reply #77 on: June 09, 2008, 05:14:13 PM »
Yeah the fact that information can be used both ways ;)

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« Reply #78 on: June 09, 2008, 05:16:56 PM »
i\'ve come to accept propoganda as just something thats going to happen whether we like it or not. if you fall for it, learn. I fell for it as a freshmen in high school, and don\'t plan on it again. If you dont learn..then youre too stupid to matter
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« Reply #79 on: June 09, 2008, 05:23:35 PM »
Oh I would mostly agree. I like your take on propaganda. But we should also be aware that we are constantly victims or at least potential victims of different forms of propaganda. It is not always visible. Thats why it is often so successful.

I dont get what kind of propaganda you fell in though as a freshman. Can you share if you want? Is it with political parties in school?

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« Reply #80 on: June 09, 2008, 05:34:36 PM »
iraq. almost everyone in my school (in my grade) was so gung-ho when the war started because of the governments portrayal of the war and the use of 9/11. we were watching the first attack in baghdad on the news and people were cheering as bombs hit.

Even my friend who\'se as far left as anyone i know now wanted to, or at least imagined, joining the military to fight that first year. but that changed as the situation progressed
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« Reply #81 on: June 09, 2008, 11:08:38 PM »
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Truth is I was alluding towards the general perception we have about the Jews: that we remember them mostly as the victims of the holocaust, but our attention towards their present crimes range from weak to non-existent. They are just as criminous and inhumane as what they Nazis have been doing to them too.
Wow, way to dig yourself into a bigger hole of idiocy.

I love how he used this as his grand retort too.

And politiepet, you\'ve been soul owned, please stop posting.
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« Reply #82 on: June 09, 2008, 11:29:05 PM »
At least you have the decency to say please ;) Although you are still too close minded, that probably wont change so I\'ll ignore it from now on...
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i hope they all get aids and die they should bnt tbbe having sezx with just anyone they should be in love if theay are foing to have sex not just to make money I htink its wrong for them to just have sexzx for the fun of it specially when some of the performancs are married, its just wrong. tey are givng out deaseases to anyone and its just not right i tell you i think its really really wrong specially when tey have sex i dot whach porno though so im not sure what they do i dont theink theyr realy hjave sex its all just pretendnig but you never no what they do its just wrong speciallly when they dont even love each other its wrong i ell you in tsi just wrong. wtings owting wtrong wtongs wtongs. i dont like it. prlease explaions.

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« Reply #83 on: June 09, 2008, 11:37:33 PM »
Yeah I don\'t consider a white KKK supremacist\'s opinions valid. I\'m very close minded like that.

I just want to know if you honestly believe you or Unicron is even close to being right. Everyone is at arms with how ridiculous your posts have been...yet you seem undeterred. Did your parents raise you to only have one opinion and stick with it to the bitter end? Sounds like you and Unicron are the ignorant ones no?

Better ignore it, because I no longer have the patience to tolerant such stupidity.
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« Reply #84 on: June 10, 2008, 01:02:48 AM »
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Yeah I don\'t consider a white KKK supremacist\'s opinions valid. I\'m very close minded like that.


I don\'t either, I\'ve stated clearly that, had I known him, I would never consider him a legitimate source.

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I just want to know if you honestly believe you or Unicron is even close to being right. Everyone is at arms with how ridiculous your posts have been...yet you seem undeterred. Did your parents raise you to only have one opinion and stick with it to the bitter end? Sounds like you and Unicron are the ignorant ones no?
 


No one has even tried to put forward arguments about why my believes would be false. You have only attacked unicron on one of his posts, that is not of my concern. I have already said I only defend my own statements, which I have also summed up. I will do it again for you and than tell me were I might be wrong:
-the holocaust was a horrible act of cruelty
-the holocaust is however not the only act of cruelty done by mankind and not unique in its sheer size. One can name several different acts that are in the least comparable to it, for instance the genocide of at least 7 million Ukrainians by Stalin in 1932-1933. This fact is, however, hardly known by anybody, while it\'s definitely just as horrible.
-The holocaust, however horrendous, gets innumerably more attention and while it\'s a good thing that it gets lots of attention, it\'s a bad thing that all the other attrocities are almost forgotten because of it.
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i hope they all get aids and die they should bnt tbbe having sezx with just anyone they should be in love if theay are foing to have sex not just to make money I htink its wrong for them to just have sexzx for the fun of it specially when some of the performancs are married, its just wrong. tey are givng out deaseases to anyone and its just not right i tell you i think its really really wrong specially when tey have sex i dot whach porno though so im not sure what they do i dont theink theyr realy hjave sex its all just pretendnig but you never no what they do its just wrong speciallly when they dont even love each other its wrong i ell you in tsi just wrong. wtings owting wtrong wtongs wtongs. i dont like it. prlease explaions.

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« Reply #85 on: June 10, 2008, 02:02:10 AM »
I\'m going to stand out on a limb and say something controversial too:

The sky is blue.

No one is arguing your silly off-topic points, STOP BRINGING THEM UP. We don\'t care, it has no relevance to this discussion. The Jews are not innocent. Why Unicron made this statement and why he still has not explained why it is a relevant point to the old discussion is the issue.

READ BACK LOL
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« Reply #86 on: June 10, 2008, 02:26:18 AM »
Hear\'s how I see what Unicron meant:
-Holocaust bad
-jews did not deserve it
-today however it gives jews almost carte blanche to commit crimes themselves, because no one dares publicly frown upon it because of the holocaust.

Now I\'ll explain how my views ARE indeed Ontopic in this discussion, because Israel NEEDS the Holocaust to be considered unique and unparallelled, because it is the reason why they are given this sort of carte blanche.

I\'m gonna have to quote stannard on this, because he can explain it more elegantly: "The answer is what the essayist Phillip Lopate calls "extermination pride . . a sort of privileged nation status in the moral honor roll." The Holocaust historian Zygmunt Bauman has noted that Israel uses the Holocaust "as the certificate of its political legitimacy, a safe-conduct pass for its past and future policies, and, above all, as the advance payment for the injustices it might itself commit." Doing so creates the need to play down other genocides. As one proponent of the uniqueness of the Holocaust, Edward Alexander, has put it, to describe as genocidal the ghastly agonies suffered by others-the Armenians, for instance-is "to plunder the moral capital" of the Jewish people. It is to "steal the Holocaust. "

In a classic case of quid pro quo, the Turkish government has demonstrated its gratitude for Israel\'s support in denying the Armenian genocide by declaring its agreement with Israel\'s claim of the uniqueness of the Holocaust. And in the middle of this cynical and dehumanizing reciprocation stand the pro-uniqueness writers, who have provided Turkey and Israel with their contrived intellectual support."
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i hope they all get aids and die they should bnt tbbe having sezx with just anyone they should be in love if theay are foing to have sex not just to make money I htink its wrong for them to just have sexzx for the fun of it specially when some of the performancs are married, its just wrong. tey are givng out deaseases to anyone and its just not right i tell you i think its really really wrong specially when tey have sex i dot whach porno though so im not sure what they do i dont theink theyr realy hjave sex its all just pretendnig but you never no what they do its just wrong speciallly when they dont even love each other its wrong i ell you in tsi just wrong. wtings owting wtrong wtongs wtongs. i dont like it. prlease explaions.

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« Reply #87 on: June 10, 2008, 02:29:40 AM »
A man and a friend are playing golf one day at their local golf course. One of the guys is about to chip onto the green when he sees a long funeral procession on the road next to the course. He stops in mid-swing, takes off his golf cap, closes his eyes, and bows down in prayer.

His friend says: “Wow, that is the most thoughtful and touching thing I have ever seen. You truly are a kind man.”

The man then replies: “Yeah, well we were married 35 years.”  

That joke was funny too.
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« Reply #88 on: June 10, 2008, 02:36:01 AM »
oh I forgot to say how it\'s relevant to the original topic. In the video the black people attacked the (I assume) jewish kid, saying that the holocaust wasn\'t so bad, because there have been many more genocidal acts that are equally bad. The point made is: While downplaying the holocaust is of course horrendous, the point that is made about its significants relevant to other genocidal acts being overexaggerated is a true one. A point that you, rightly, consider to be as true as the fact that "the sky is blue".
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i hope they all get aids and die they should bnt tbbe having sezx with just anyone they should be in love if theay are foing to have sex not just to make money I htink its wrong for them to just have sexzx for the fun of it specially when some of the performancs are married, its just wrong. tey are givng out deaseases to anyone and its just not right i tell you i think its really really wrong specially when tey have sex i dot whach porno though so im not sure what they do i dont theink theyr realy hjave sex its all just pretendnig but you never no what they do its just wrong speciallly when they dont even love each other its wrong i ell you in tsi just wrong. wtings owting wtrong wtongs wtongs. i dont like it. prlease explaions.

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« Reply #89 on: June 10, 2008, 04:39:08 AM »
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oh I forgot to say how it\'s relevant to the original topic. In the video the black people attacked the (I assume) jewish kid, saying that the holocaust wasn\'t so bad, because there have been many more genocidal acts that are equally bad. The point made is: While downplaying the holocaust is of course horrendous, the point that is made about its significants relevant to other genocidal acts being overexaggerated is a true one. A point that you, rightly, consider to be as true as the fact that "the sky is blue".
Exactly!!

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Wow, way to dig yourself into a bigger hole of idiocy.

I love how he used this as his grand retort too.

And politiepet, you\'ve been soul owned, please stop posting.
I know I know. According to Jumpman it is PERFECTLY FINE for Israel to commit to war crimes, human violations and murder, and who ever dares say that it is NOT FINE and we should ACCUSE their actions just as much as the Nazis\', he is automatically a Neo-Nazi Jew hater that believes they deserved to die.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2008, 04:46:03 AM by Unicron! »

 

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