Republicrats?

Yea..guilt is what gets officials elected.

1st Favre.....now this.

Charisma and money go a long way in EVERY aspect of life.

I would just like to stop in here and say that I truly believe that no matter who is president my day to day life will not change. Therefore I just don\'t care. I\'ve never voted and I don\'t see myself giving a shit enough to vote anytime soon.


People have jumped on my case for this for years, but nobody has been able to change my mind.

I carry that sentiment more or less.  I still tune into it a little and will probably vote this time around but I don\'t really feel like it matters.

I try to say informed as much as I can.

I have not voted in the last 8 years...edit(actually longer than that since i have only voted once)
Just b/c I can vote, I dont think I should have to vote if I dont "feel" one candidate or another. I dont care what office needs to be filled.

Not b/c I feel it does not matter, I just dont feel the need to vote for someone i do not believe in. I was going to vote for Obama, but it will probably just be another time I do not vote.

If I do, it would be for social reasons, not b/c I buy his brand of bullshit.

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Thats not necessarily true clips.

If Obama wins it will be very dramatic just b/c it is a first and says alot about our country as whole and how far we have come in 40+ years.

Well...i was mainly just saying how things generally are after a new prez is in there,...nothing really dramatic comes out of it, you don\'t really feel a difference in quality of life, but i think whoever is in office this time around has to make an impact,..there\'s too much s**t that\'s outta control...and everybody is feelin\' what is goin\' on with the economy...except McCains economic adviser who stated that the economy is not as bad as everyone think it is...:rolleyes:....i guess not when you have money fartin\' outta yer ass..

As far as racial progress?...yeah, we\'ve come a long way, but the more things change the more they stay the same,...with the way the economy is goin\' Obama should have a huge lead on McCain, but he doesn\'t...why?...news anchors want us to believe it\'s because "white people" doesn\'t know him or they believe he isn\'t patriotic enough...:rolleyes:....just call that s**t for what it is...the race is so close cause you have some white folks that are not votin\' for him because of his race.

 17 or 24 percent of hillary voters are votin\' for McCain because they stated they didn\'t like Obama?..even tho both hillary & obama have practically the same policies?...when Obama & hillary had a debate in PA and the news folks asked a hillary supporter if hillary doesn\'t become the nominee would you vote for obama? she stated that if hillary didn\'t become the nominee, she would vote for McCain....pathetic.

But yeah we\'ve come quite a ways but we still have a looong way to go...i\'m sure if hillary was the nominee that lead would be waay bigger than it is now...meh the problem anyway isn\'t with the younger set as much,..it\'s more of a problem with older white folk that are still holdin\' on to their racist values and themes...once that generation of racist a**holes dies off, racial tolerance will be alot better in this country.

It pains me that say if Obama is actually the person to really make a difference, that some would rather vote for a white person that they probably don\'t really support in the 1st place, but would rather see a white prez in tha WH rather than an Afri American.....i\'m still willing to see the cup half full rather than half empty when it comes to race relations in this country tho...

You want to talk about racial progress?  How about every black person voting for Obama though they have no reasoning why.  Clips your whole post details why blacks have a problem in this country and for none of the reasons you think.

You want to talk about racial progress?  How about every black person voting for Obama though they have no reasoning why.  Clips your whole post details why blacks have a problem in this country and for none of the reasons you think.

I have said this before to clips - he chooses to ignore the question.  I guess his reasoning is blacks are incapable of being racist - only whites are.

I have no problem with a black president, however Obama is not the one for me.    Just saying "change" does not make it so.  He has no ideas and I still believe he is an empty suit who says things based on which way the polls are blowing.  I also used to think Obama was a good speaker, well that is until I saw him without a teleprompter - he is almost as painful to watch as Bush.

Obama also has no sense of humor - getting all bent out of shape over political cartoons and such - What I have to say to him is get used to it buddy.

I have no problem with a black president, however Obama is not the one for me.    Just saying "change" does not make it so.  He has no ideas and I still believe he is an empty suit who says things based on which way the polls are blowing.

That sums up my thoughts to a T. My dislike for Obama stems from his policies and ideas. I don\'t care if he\'s black or white, because he definitely has a red socialistic streak in him, and that\'s plenty to turn me away.

Basically the most important issue for me is the reduction of bloated government spending. Unfortunately, neither candidate looks strong on that.

I really think that the most important thing to any presidential candidate is.... being president.

I don\'t think they want or care about "change" or to make life better for the average American.



They want to be president, and they will do or say whatever they think will get them the job.


The presidential race is like one big, fat job interview.

I guess thats not such a bad thing, really.

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You want to talk about racial progress? How about every black person voting for Obama though they have no reasoning why. Clips your whole post details why blacks have a problem in this country and for none of the reasons you think.

Oh please be quiet...i like how you folks totally ignore what i wrote up above..i didn\'t make that stuff up...the truth hurts....and since black folks will vote for anybody thats black, you mean to tell me when Al Sharpton was campagining for the presidency, all black folks voted for him?...riiight..they didn\'t..as a matter of fact alot of black folks didn\'t even vote for that afri american women that was campaigining for the presidency as well...the majority in that election voted for kerry...who\'s white btw in case you\'re confused...

It\'s funny how i can honestly criticize black folks when they\'re actin\' a fool,..(and i\'m sure there will be no complaints about that)  but when i present honest facts about how some white folks react when it comes to voting at least in this election some of you white folk like to act like racism doesn\'t exist...trully pathethic....and again when there are all white candidates campaigning,...you never heard of news anchors sayin\'.."will black people come out to vote for a white candidate"...why is it they always have to ask is america ready for a black president?...don\'t give me no bulls**t answer...it\'s because some white folks won\'t vote for him because of his color, whereas with black folks we voted for that white candidate with no problem....

I also used to think Obama was a good speaker, well that is until I saw him without a teleprompter - he is almost as painful to watch as Bush.

You\'re getting him confused with McCain who clearly uses a teleprompter for all of his events..he even pauses alot when  tryin\' to read them...

Obama also has no sense of humor - getting all bent out of shape over political cartoons and such - What I have to say to him is get used to it buddy

Meh i think he has a right to be a little pissed at that cartoon,..they\'re painting him as a terrorist with Bin-Laden hanging over the fireplace,..with the flag burning in it?....All the other spoofs poked light-hearted fun at other politicians, but nothing along the lines of them actually bein\' a terrorist and burning a flag...it\'s trying to support some bulls**t theme that he\'s not patriotic and that he\'s some type of muslim extremist...

Actually, that cartoon was poking fun at the Republicans who insinuate such charges.

Being a national politician is going to open you up to all kinds of insulting behavior. Not all of it is fair or clean or tasteful. Fucking deal.

Oh please be quiet...i like how you folks totally ignore what i wrote up above..i didn\'t make that stuff up...the truth hurts....and since black folks will vote for anybody thats black, you mean to tell me when Al Sharpton was campagining for the presidency, all black folks voted for him?...riiight..they didn\'t..as a matter of fact alot of black folks didn\'t even vote for that afri american women that was campaigining for the presidency as well...the majority in that election voted for kerry...who\'s white btw in case you\'re confused...

It\'s funny how i can honestly criticize black folks when they\'re actin\' a fool,..(and i\'m sure there will be no complaints about that)  but when i present honest facts about how some white folks react when it comes to voting at least in this election some of you white folk like to act like racism doesn\'t exist...trully pathethic....and again when there are all white candidates campaigning,...you never heard of news anchors sayin\'.."will black people come out to vote for a white candidate"...why is it they always have to ask is america ready for a black president?...don\'t give me no bulls**t answer...it\'s because some white folks won\'t vote for him because of his color, whereas with black folks we voted for that white candidate with no problem....





You\'re getting him confused with McCain who clearly uses a teleprompter for all of his events..he even pauses alot when  tryin\' to read them...




Meh i think he has a right to be a little pissed at that cartoon,..they\'re painting him as a terrorist with Bin-Laden hanging over the fireplace,..with the flag burning in it?....All the other spoofs poked light-hearted fun at other politicians, but nothing along the lines of them actually bein\' a terrorist and burning a flag...it\'s trying to support some bulls**t theme that he\'s not patriotic and that he\'s some type of muslim extremist...

for a person who is indifferent about skincolour you seem to be talking about "them white folk" a lot and I don\'t just mean this last post....

Oh please be quiet...i like how you folks totally ignore what i wrote up above..i didn\'t make that stuff up...the truth hurts....and since black folks will vote for anybody thats black, you mean to tell me when Al Sharpton was campagining for the presidency, all black folks voted for him?...riiight..they didn\'t..as a matter of fact alot of black folks didn\'t even vote for that afri american women that was campaigining for the presidency as well...the majority in that election voted for kerry...who\'s white btw in case you\'re confused...

It\'s funny how i can honestly criticize black folks when they\'re actin\' a fool,..(and i\'m sure there will be no complaints about that)  but when i present honest facts about how some white folks react when it comes to voting at least in this election some of you white folk like to act like racism doesn\'t exist...trully pathethic....and again when there are all white candidates campaigning,...you never heard of news anchors sayin\'.."will black people come out to vote for a white candidate"...why is it they always have to ask is america ready for a black president?...don\'t give me no bulls**t answer...it\'s because some white folks won\'t vote for him because of his color, whereas with black folks we voted for that white candidate with no problem....





You\'re getting him confused with McCain who clearly uses a teleprompter for all of his events..he even pauses alot when  tryin\' to read them...




Meh i think he has a right to be a little pissed at that cartoon,..they\'re painting him as a terrorist with Bin-Laden hanging over the fireplace,..with the flag burning in it?....All the other spoofs poked light-hearted fun at other politicians, but nothing along the lines of them actually bein\' a terrorist and burning a flag...it\'s trying to support some bulls**t theme that he\'s not patriotic and that he\'s some type of muslim extremist...

What is that?  I think this cartoon is much worse about McCain...  Funny thing is you didn\'t see McCain getting whiny about it.  Obama is a pussy.


Yeah that is lighthearted fun :rolleyes:  That picture below is from Rolling Stone Magazine.  You libs really are hypocrites aren\'t you?

Why don\'t we look at the black turnout for Jesse Jackson?  The thing is no whites were voting for Jackson so of course he wouldn\'t get the nomination since blacks only account for 12 percent of the vote.

Every other word out of Obama\'s mouth when speaking without a teleprompter is "uh"... every fifth word is "change" and every tenth word is "hope".

Oh please be quiet...i like how you folks totally ignore what i wrote up above..i didn\'t make that stuff up...the truth hurts....and since black folks will vote for anybody thats black, you mean to tell me when Al Sharpton was campagining for the presidency, all black folks voted for him?...riiight..they didn\'t..as a matter of fact alot of black folks didn\'t even vote for that afri american women that was campaigining for the presidency as well...the majority in that election voted for kerry...who\'s white btw in case you\'re confused...

It\'s funny how i can honestly criticize black folks when they\'re actin\' a fool,..(and i\'m sure there will be no complaints about that)  but when i present honest facts about how some white folks react when it comes to voting at least in this election some of you white folk like to act like racism doesn\'t exist...trully pathethic....and again when there are all white candidates campaigning,...you never heard of news anchors sayin\'.."will black people come out to vote for a white candidate"...why is it they always have to ask is america ready for a black president?...don\'t give me no bulls**t answer...it\'s because some white folks won\'t vote for him because of his color, whereas with black folks we voted for that white candidate with no problem....

Please be quiet?  Truly pathetic?  Spare me this bullshit.  Please keep playing victim, you do it so well.  I know racism exist but it\'s a two way street.  For every white person that won\'t vote for Obama cause he\'s black there\'s a black person voting for him just because he is so don\'t worry.

What is that?  I think this cartoon is much worse about McCain...  Funny thing is you didn\'t see McCain getting whiny about it.  Obama is a pussy.


Yeah that is lighthearted fun :rolleyes:  That picture below is from Rolling Stone Magazine.  You libs really are hypocrites aren\'t you?

Why don\'t we look at the black turnout for Jesse Jackson?  The thing is no whites were voting for Jackson so of course he wouldn\'t get the nomination since blacks only account for 12 percent of the vote.

Every other word out of Obama\'s mouth when speaking without a teleprompter is "uh"... every fifth word is "change" and every tenth word is "hope".

You really cannot see the difference in the two cartoons?

Actually, that cartoon was poking fun at the Republicans who insinuate such charges.

Being a national politician is going to open you up to all kinds of insulting behavior. Not all of it is fair or clean or tasteful. Fucking deal.

It\'s actually supposed to be quite complimentary towards Obama. I have yet to read it though.