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I think this thread has evolved into exactly what I thought it would.  People still believe that there is an actual difference between the two candidates.  Also, I would also like to point out that voting for a President based on his skin color is as equally racist for not voting for him for that reason.

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I printed that New Yorker and it is mindless drivel.
That is all I\'ll say about it.

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for a person who is indifferent about skincolour you seem to be talking about "them white folk" a lot and I don\'t just mean this last post....

We\'re in a thread that\'s about race relations and how it\'s affecting the election,....these types of threads tend to get heated,..to get my point across i have to show the differences in what is happening between the two ethnic groups...so you are going to hear "white folk" & "black folk alot"

Why don\'t we look at the black turnout for Jesse Jackson? The thing is no whites were voting for Jackson so of course he wouldn\'t get the nomination since blacks only account for 12 percent of the vote.

And how many years ago was that?...:rolleyes:...we\'re talking about the here & now....everything is all happy-happy joy joy..as long as white candidates are in there, but have a legit black person in there and all of a sudden...the media asks.."is america ready for a black prez"....this is what is mostly pissin\' me off....and the fact that the race is so close because white folks don\'t know him & feels he\'s unpatriotic?.....that\'s bulls**t....the fact of the matter is that it\'s 2008 not 1984,(or whenever jessie ran for prez,..i was young)...and we still have to deal with ignorant racist folks that are livin\' back in the 60\'s & 50\'s

Please be quiet? Truly pathetic? Spare me this bullshit. Please keep playing victim, you do it so well. I know racism exist but it\'s a two way street. For every white person that won\'t vote for Obama cause he\'s black there\'s a black person voting for him just because he is so don\'t worry.

I\'m playin\' victim cause i\'m speakin\' the truth? If i was playin\' victim i would be blamin\' the gov\'t for my situation,...i would be lookin\' to the gov\'t for handouts and i would be blamin\' white folks for everything....i\'m not even going to go into how many times i\'ve criticized black folks when they were actin a fool or usin\' the racial thing to their advantage,..so it\'s not even about defending blacks with me..it\'s about defending what\'s right.

And some blacks probably are votin\' for Obama because of his skin color,..but that is not my point,..my thing is why all of a sudden is it such a big deal in 2008 we have to ask the question...are we ready to elect a black person as prez?...that and i\'m highly upset (well i\'m not losin\' sleep over it) over the fact that some hillary voters are votin\' for McCain...clearly because they say they don\'t like Obama?....there\'s some underlying racial overtones goin\' on there since both hillary & obama policies are nearly the same.

Obviously i\'m not talking about all white folks,...just the one\'s that are ignorant....again if hillary was the nominee,..i wouldn\'t have a problem votin\' for her, & neither would the majority of black folks in this country.

We\'re in a thread that\'s about race relations and how it\'s affecting the election,....these types of threads tend to get heated,..to get my point across i have to show the differences in what is happening between the two ethnic groups...so you are going to hear "white folk" & "black folk alot".

I didn\'t just mean this thread...

And some blacks probably are votin\' for Obama because of his skin color,..but that is not my point,..my thing is why all of a sudden is it such a big deal in 2008 we have to ask the question...are we ready to elect a black person as prez?...that and i\'m highly upset (well i\'m not losin\' sleep over it) over the fact that some hillary voters are votin\' for McCain...clearly because they say they don\'t like Obama?....there\'s some underlying racial overtones goin\' on there since both hillary & obama policies are nearly the same.

I have nothing to back this up, but I\'m guessing more than half the people don\'t even know what policy they\'re voting for, they only care about the image portrayed by the candidates.

Obviously i\'m not talking about all white folks,...just the one\'s that are ignorant....again if hillary was the nominee,..i wouldn\'t have a problem votin\' for her, & neither would the majority of black folks in this country.

let me get this straight: In this topic we\'re supposed to talk about "racist white folk", but talking about "racist black folks" is besides the point? :rolleyes:

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I didn\'t just mean this thread...

Of course i don\'t use it just in this thread..in any racial thread i\'ll use that term,...it\'s not offensive.... i\'m just using it to get my point across since it\'ll be the theme of the thread....your point?

I have nothing to back this up, but I\'m guessing more than half the people don\'t even know what policy they\'re voting for, they only care about the image portrayed by the candidates.

This could be true, but since these folks are supposedly die-hard dems and mostly women, i just don\'t see how you could turn around and vote for somebody like McCain who is the complete opposite of hillary & obama...again you could be right, but imo i think it\'s not likely.

let me get this straight: In this topic we\'re supposed to talk about "racist white folk", but talking about "racist black folks" is besides the point?

It is beside the point in relation to the topic at hand....Al Sharpton was in the last election, yet he did not garner the majority of the black vote...my angle & anger is mostly geared toward the media & how they\'re fueling the racial debate,..which trickles down to "ignorant white folks"....so my point again is that even tho sharpton received some votes he didn\'t receive the full vote of black folks,..the majority still voted for kerry...

Now i know that alot of white folks are supporting Obama, but the race between Obama & McCain are incredibly close and the media over is saying with the way the economy is, they could not figure out why obama doesn\'t have a bigger lead, their reason was that he is not relating to white blue collard workers and they stated that these same people felt that obama was not patriotic enough....all i stated was the obvious, that they just won\'t vote for him because of his color.

Now i understand that no matter how bad the economy is, some people are still going to vote for their party, dem or republican,...but with the majority of america blaming the republicans for the bad shape the american economy is in, ?Obama should really have a huuge lead over McCain but he doesn\'t,..which leads me to believe some ignorant white folks (and i don\'t mean the dedicated conservatives i mean the ones that are pissed off at the economy) would rather vote for that white person, rather than to see a black person in the WH..cnn did a report asking white people how they felt about havin\' a black prez & the majority of them stated that they weren\'t comfortable with having a black prez.

Which is why i stated that black folks have never had a problem voting for that white candidate in the history of voting in the presdential process,...part of it is probably because we had no rights to vote back in tha day, and when we finally got the chance we embraced it, but the point is that we never had a problem votin\' for that white candidate, but some white folks do have a problem votin\' for black folks...as you can see a couple of issues kinda trickle down to other issues, but that is basically my point.

The fact that you think Obama isn\'t leading by more solely because of his race is idiotic.

what a load of crap! Basically what you\'re saying is: there are no black racist voters, but there are white racist voters.
My guess would be they are about evenly spread.


ps. Sharpton is a nutcase, of course no one\'s gonna vote for him.....


edit: I think the problem is that you fail to realize that in the end, racist voters are a small minority, both black and white. They are not capable of seriously influencing the outcome. This is why your sharpton arguement is not valid. The racist voting blacks probably did vote for him, just as much as racist white folks will probably not vote for obama. In the end it evens itself out...

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The fact that you think Obama isn\'t leading by more solely because of his race is idiotic.

I really don\'t think so,...this election is just showing how far we as a nation still has to go as far as race relations are concerned.

what a load of crap! Basically what you\'re saying is: there are no black racist voters, but there are white racist voters.
My guess would be they are about evenly spread.


ps. Sharpton is a nutcase, of course no one\'s gonna vote for him.....

Y\'know i do understand that there are racist black folks,..you have them in every group...i see my point is not getting across...ahhh...since sharpton is highly regarded in the black community he should have gotten most of the black vote, but he didn\'t..i also stated that another afri. amer woman also ran the same year, yet kerry received most of the black vote......for the millionth time,....when a legit black person has the possibilty of becoming prez,..why all of a sudden is it a big issue?....yes it\'s history making, but beyond that?

The media is not even looking at it from that angle,..it\'s more "is america ready for a black prez"...like they\'re afraid of it happening...i don\'t see how it\'s hard for you guys to comprehend that...so i guess whenever a black person goes for the presidency,..this will be a huge issue?...it shouldn\'t be...just treat him the same and attack his policies, but stop asking dumb ass questions like that, so again when black folks vote for the white candidate, everything is fine, thumbs up...no problem....go into the hood right now, and ask  those black folks if they would vote for bill clinton again...98% of them would say yes...

So when cnn asked those folks about how they felt \'bout a black prez,..a couple were of the \'ol ignorant hick type, but alot of them were just normal folks that you see on the street or at your workplace....so to me,..it seems that some white folks have more of a problem votin\' for a black person, than blacks do when voting for a white person...so why i say this?...because...in every election black folks have always voted for that white candidate without sayin\' anything stupid like "uhm..i\'m not votin\' for him cause he\'s white"...yes there are racist black folks...but in regards to the votin\' process they still came out and voted for their white candidate.

I know you guys still probably don\'t see where i\'m coming from...but this is how i see it...

I wonder why black people didn\'t buoy Alan Keyes when he ran for the Presidency in the 1990s. He\'d have made a much better president than Obama.

African Americans have blamed everything else on racism, why not chalk one more thing up.  The fact that you are following some nonsense from one of the media outlets is laughable.  Anything to get ratings up.

The difference between Obama and all these other guys you\'re naming is Obama has been backed by the Democrats for a while now.

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African Americans have blamed everything else on racism, why not chalk one more thing up.  The fact that you are following some nonsense from one of the media outlets is laughable.  Anything to get ratings up.

The difference between Obama and all these other guys you\'re naming is Obama has been backed by the Democrats for a while now.

What have ALL Afri. Americans blamed on racism?....I do tend to follow cnn since they are more balanced than fox,...i notice that they criticize both McCain & Obama quite fairly...and it also hepls to keep up on current events and the economy, wouldn\'t you agree?.....maybe these networks are doing stories for ratings, but the fact that they interviewed those random folks about how they felt about a black prez,..still proves that race is a huge problem for some...

But yeah..i like how you lump all afri. americans like we all play the victim...nice work there sherlock...

I wonder why black people didn\'t buoy Alan Keyes when he ran for the Presidency in the 1990s. He\'d have made a much better president than Obama.

Who was he again?...riiight...that guy was forgettable...

Yeah, he didn\'t have Obama\'s style and teleprompted charisma. To judge by his popularity, that\'s all it takes to be electable in America these days.

You mean people make quick judgments on presidents based on their looks and charisma and not about their policies?!?  Oh noes, what shall we ever do?

You guys act like this is new, people ALWAYS vote on people who they perceive to be close to them in ideology and appearance.  It just happens that obama being black makes it all the more clear.  Why do you think nominees pull stunts to make themselves look "working class".

Its not racist that blacks are going to vote for a black president just as its not racist that whites are going to vote white.  They just see more of themselves in the nominee.

And for the record, 75% of the people voting are going to be uninformed.

I\'m hardly shocked, sweetie. It just amazes me how people will elect a person based on the least-important qualifiers, and then sit around bitching for years because those qualifiers turned out to be unimportant. And then four years later, they do it all over again.

Of course, black people mostly vote Democrat, no matter what the guy looks or sounds like. Democrats do their best to reinforce black victimhood, and then do their best to keep blacks as second-class citizens.

I\'ll write in Ron Paul before I vote for either candidate.  Clips can claim there\'s a difference between the two, but if you were given candidate A and candidate B listing only their policies without and pictures or names, it would be hard to distinguish between the two.  There might be a few minor differences on some rather insignificant issues.