Republicrats?

Tell John I said hi.
 
Oh wait, you have no idea and probably just heard that on a right wing talk show from someone else who has no idea.
 
You\'re great at nonsense political spin to make any dem look bad, but it\'s just too much when you double back and heap nonsense political praise on your favorite, too. Picking on a person or group and using labels is easy and frivilous and we could do it with any group be they tree huggers, flip floppers, war mongers or whatever.
 
If you want to make a point, make one, but reliance on that bully-talking, nothing-backing-it-up, I-know-better-because-I-said-so stance is exactly why we\'re in this shithole as a country right now.

Working for Barry\'s campaign?  You sure sound like it.  No one has yet answered my question as what qualified Barry to be POTUS.  He has done nothing and now lies to make it look like he has done something.  As I said, you claim this country is in a shithole - back it up.  You ask me to make a point and I have.  Barry Hussein Obama is a lying sack of shit.  If you are too fragile to hear criticism about the Obamessiah then don\'t read it.  I know, I know, ObaMoses did make a promise “I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”  He is so full of himself :rolleyes:.  He did lie, he does use 300 advisors on foreign policy alone.  All you have to do is click on a little link.

To top it off he is running around the Middle East (on our tax dollars) and now Europe to make it look like he is an expert at foreign affairs.  Amazing how no press is allowed to ask him questions, yet he has 75 percent of the mainstream media in tow.  20 minutes at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem does not qualify him.  Pretty funny he was heckled there, yet CNN didn\'t report about it.  There are also rumors that his basketball shot that has been playing on MSNBC when he was in Kuwait was staged.  Military sources have said it took him four or five times to make it, yet we are deceived by people like Chris Matthews into believing that he sunk it the first time.  It is a dog and pony show and it is becoming quite pathetic at the lengths the Obama campaign will go to in order fluff up their candidate.

As far as McCain making his own decisions - he does.  He doesn\'t have 300 talking heads writing answers for him.  McCain doesn\'t have to be shielded from the press, because he can answer questions without getting clearance first.  Just look at the NYT article I linked a few posts up if you don\'t believe me.  The gaffe\'s like I have pointed out are happening regularly, but it seems intelligence from those viewing it goes at the window and the press gives him a free pass to do it over and over and over again.

Boy Giga, when you get a someones nuts you are on them for good huh? I remember years ago, these very same arguments. Just change Old man winter with Bush, and Blacky with Kerry.

As for the rest of you, I have no idea why you guys get your panties in a twist over two guys none of you know. BOTH lie to all of us everyday.

Neither one of them will truly get anything done while in office.

I thought people grew out of name calling when they finally became adults?

I mean, I\'m sure he\'s got some great points in there, but when he sounds like a 5 year old spouting off insults in every sentence, it just comes off as, well, childish.

I thought people grew out of name calling when they finally became adults?

I mean, I\'m sure he\'s got some great points in there, but when he sounds like a 5 year old spouting off insults in every sentence, it just comes off as, well, childish.

Please quote my "name calling" since you seem to think I am being childish.  The only person I am insulting is Obama and using profanity to elaborate a fact isn\'t an insult.  God forbid I defend myself from other posters.

I am still waiting for clips to answer my question.  He seems to think whites won\'t vote for Obama because he is black, yet I believe a large majority who won\'t vote for him question his positions and lack of experience.  Anyone with a brain would question a junior Senator who has come out of nowhere and has no political track record regardless of race or gender.

luckee - some things never change.  I am one of them and I call it like I see it.

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Really, worst president in the history of the US? Elaborate please.

Have you\'ve seen his approval ratings?...again what planet are you livin\' on?

To top it off he is running around the Middle East (on our tax dollars) and now Europe to make it look like he is an expert at foreign affairs. Amazing how no press is allowed to ask him questions, yet he has 75 percent of the mainstream media in tow. 20 minutes at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem does not qualify him. Pretty funny he was heckled there, yet CNN didn\'t report about it. There are also rumors that his basketball shot that has been playing on MSNBC when he was in Kuwait was staged. Military sources have said it took him four or five times to make it, yet we are deceived by people like Chris Matthews into believing that he sunk it the first time. It is a dog and pony show and it is becoming quite pathetic at the lengths the Obama campaign will go to in order fluff up their candidate.

Hmmm....first McCain and crew criticize Obama for not makin\' that trip to Iraq & other countries & then when he does make the trip,..McCain criticizes him for it?..:rolleyes:...who\'s flip-flopping now?...he can\'t have it both ways,...when Obama was makin\' that speech in Germany,...McCain just happened to be eating in a german restuaraunt?(spel) in Ohio?...that\'s too funny...he goes on to say(about Obama) well there are more important matters in the u.s. but he feels taking trips are more important...:rolleyes:

It really helps Obama that just about all of europe is incredibly excited about him, and that can go a long way to restoring the u.s. image on an international level,....since bush\'s arrogance on iraq & his cowboy policies, relationships are still strained between the u.s. and alot of our allies...oh and cnn did report that he got heckled in jerusalem....

I am still waiting for clips to answer my question. He seems to think whites won\'t vote for Obama because he is black, yet I believe a large majority who won\'t vote for him question his positions and lack of experience. Anyone with a brain would question a junior Senator who has come out of nowhere and has no political track record regardless of race or gender.

I still think some white folk won\'t vote for him because of his color,....honestly with the state the country is in, Obama should have a huge lead over McCain, but he doesn\'t,...and everybody wants to act stupid and say "uhm..no racism couldn\'t possibly be the answer"..:rolleyes:....i\'m not sayin\' it\'s the only answer, but it is a huge part of it,....i also believe there are some that are white that truly have doubts about him and those are the folks i respect,...but being that this race is so close, i believe most are voting through their pre-judgement & ignorance of fear of actually havin\' a black prez, than actually sayin\' meh..this guy has no experience...

And what question do you want me to answer?...i think i\'ve answered it already....what qualifies McCain?...what?..bein a war hero?...while i do respect the men uniform, that doesn\'t automatically qualify you....he\'s sayin\' the same thing Obama is sayin in terms of policies....both are saying.."we need to do this & we need to do that" without giving any concrete details...i\'m sure when Obama comes back from his trip, we\'ll see a more fleshed out version of his plan..

McCain has a long record of voting in the senate, does Obama? Does he? Answer the question clips - what has he done since being elected? Oh thats right he lies and makes up stuff:

It would only make sense that grandpa would have a longer record than Obama don\'t you think?...you\'re funny,...how about you show me a list of what McCain has done,..since you want to compare notes....everybody is riding that bulls**t inexperience excuse,...if you have somebody comin\' thru with a clean slate and new ideas and a vision to actually implement it, i\'ll take fresh & new & smart anyday over old, tired & tried experience....

So if the person being slandered isn\'t around its ok?  Usage of profanity and name-calling NEVER proves an argument, only makes yourself feel better and look like a fool.  You sound like a redneck when you make those insults and it certainly doesn\'t help you drive home a point like you think you are doing.  For all I know you could be a very intelligent person, but you certainly don\'t sound like it and it puts you in a position on the forum where you just sound like the raving right wing nutjub even when that might not be the case.

So if the person being slandered isn\'t around its ok?  Usage of profanity and name-calling NEVER proves an argument, only makes yourself feel better and look like a fool.  You sound like a redneck when you make those insults and it certainly doesn\'t help you drive home a point like you think you are doing.  For all I know you could be a very intelligent person, but you certainly don\'t sound like it and it puts you in a position on the forum where you just sound like the raving right wing nutjub even when that might not be the case.

While Giga and I often share different opinions. Do not sit there and claim he is unintelligent. If this is all you have, pls educate yourself and come back later.(no giga, we still have to fight )

I think he just believes in what he does, such an extent he gets pissed off with ppl that come in and just randomly throw shit out without proof. He will make you work for a post as I will!

I use a shit load of mutherfuckin profanity. It make no motherfuckin difference in content. Im a street guy with country background. Fuck you pay! DO not like it? Ignore or reply but please do not let a little bit a m,otherfuckin profanity get in the way as it is only an excuse for those without one. BITCHES!

I\'m simply pointing out that how he comes across on these boards is probably not how he is.  I did not imply he\'s unintelligent, just that his vocabulary doesn\'t exactly help him prove a point.


Internet tough guys, scary stuff....

You certainly implied it by stating he sounded like a redneck.

Internet tough guys? Thats tough to you? From a small Mormon town are we?

Go away!

WOW, now Im defending that closed mined redneck fuck.

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Funny how the price of oil is dropping again isn\'t it?

It is isn\'t it?...it\'s also funny how fast it\'s dropping ever since the gov\'t announced it was going to look into price maniplulation of oil companies & investigate those speculators on wall st. responsible for those price hikes thru those scare tactics that they practice...

Have you\'ve seen his approval ratings?...again what planet are you livin\' on?

Have you seen Congress\'s?  Which, I might add Obama is a part of?  No one is happy with the government as a whole right now.  But, your claim that he is the worst president in history is unfounded, since you can not make that claim as only time will tell.  

Hmmm....first McCain and crew criticize Obama for not makin\' that trip to Iraq & other countries & then when he does make the trip,..McCain criticizes him for it?..:rolleyes:...who\'s flip-flopping now?...he can\'t have it both ways,...when Obama was makin\' that speech in Germany,...McCain just happened to be eating in a german restuaraunt?(spel) in Ohio?...that\'s too funny...he goes on to say(about Obama) well there are more important matters in the u.s. but he feels taking trips are more important...:rolleyes:

It really helps Obama that just about all of europe is incredibly excited about him, and that can go a long way to restoring the u.s. image on an international level,....since bush\'s arrogance on iraq & his cowboy policies, relationships are still strained between the u.s. and alot of our allies...oh and cnn did report that he got heckled in jerusalem....

The point McCain was making is that he should have made the trip long ago before he took a position on troop withdrawal.  He didn\'t know the situation on the ground.  As for his trip to Europe?  That is a complete waste of time - why did he give in speech in Berlin?  Are the German\'s voting this election?  Our relationship with Europe is fine - you really need to stop reading off the far left talking points... "cowboy policies" :rolleyes:  McCain is right, he didn\'t need to run around Europe when there are issues here to discuss.  Speaking of which, why is Obama so afraid to debate McCain?  Why won\'t he set any dates or accept any for that matter?

I still think some white folk won\'t vote for him because of his color,....honestly with the state the country is in, Obama should have a huge lead over McCain, but he doesn\'t,...and everybody wants to act stupid and say "uhm..no racism couldn\'t possibly be the answer"..:rolleyes:....i\'m not sayin\' it\'s the only answer, but it is a huge part of it,....i also believe there are some that are white that truly have doubts about him and those are the folks i respect,...but being that this race is so close, i believe most are voting through their pre-judgement & ignorance of fear of actually havin\' a black prez, than actually sayin\' meh..this guy has no experience...

And what question do you want me to answer?...i think i\'ve answered it already....what qualifies McCain?...what?..bein a war hero?...while i do respect the men uniform, that doesn\'t automatically qualify you....he\'s sayin\' the same thing Obama is sayin in terms of policies....both are saying.."we need to do this & we need to do that" without giving any concrete details...i\'m sure when Obama comes back from his trip, we\'ll see a more fleshed out version of his plan..

True, some whites won\'t vote for him because he is black, but most do not take color into the equation.  You are so wrong about the reason he doesn\'t have a larger lead - it is his policies and lack of experience - and now his ego.  Let\'s put it this way clips - if Colin Powell were running against a white democrat - I can tell you that the people who are not voting for Obama now would vote for Powell.  Why?  Because of his experience and his policies.  Get it through your head - Obama lacks substance.  

It would only make sense that grandpa would have a longer record than Obama don\'t you think?...you\'re funny,...how about you show me a list of what McCain has done,..since you want to compare notes....everybody is riding that bulls**t inexperience excuse,...if you have somebody comin\' thru with a clean slate and new ideas and a vision to actually implement it, i\'ll take fresh & new & smart anyday over old, tired & tried experience....

You keep repeated the same slogans, which in themselves lack substance.  What are Obama\'s new ideas and vision?  I have asked you this before and you can\'t answer the question.  No Obama supporter can.  Have you even asked yourself this question or are you caught up in the cult of personality?

You certainly implied it by stating he sounded like a redneck.

Internet tough guys? Thats tough to you? From a small Mormon town are we?

Go away!

WOW, now Im defending that closed mined redneck fuck.

We need a good car thread to start in OT... Even I get tired of talking about this shit non stop.

You certainly implied it by stating he sounded like a redneck.

Internet tough guys? Thats tough to you? From a small Mormon town are we?

Go away!

WOW, now Im defending that closed mined redneck fuck.

Perception and reality are two very different things my friend, perhaps you should look it up sometime.

[Jumpman]

is obama president yet?

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Have you seen Congress\'s? Which, I might add Obama is a part of? No one is happy with the government as a whole right now. But, your claim that he is the worst president in history is unfounded, since you can not make that claim as only time will tell.

Hmmm....who\'s been in charge of congress longer?....riiight...the republicans...i already stated that both sides have been acting like a**holes as to the reason why nothing is being done, both sides are playin\' the politics game....as far as bush bein\'the worst prez?...let\'s see....an unjust war,...over 4000 americans killed for no reason really, since saddam had nothing to do with 911, an 100 billion dollar debt from his war, a 600 billion dollar u.s. embassy bein\' built in iraq *that nobody seems to notice btw*..strained relationships internationally because of his arrogance, the economy under his watch....i could go on & on...

The point McCain was making is that he should have made the trip long ago before he took a position on troop withdrawal. He didn\'t know the situation on the ground. As for his trip to Europe? That is a complete waste of time - why did he give in speech in Berlin? Are the German\'s voting this election? Our relationship with Europe is fine - you really need to stop reading off the far left talking points... "cowboy policies"  McCain is right, he didn\'t need to run around Europe when there are issues here to discuss. Speaking of which, why is Obama so afraid to debate McCain? Why won\'t he set any dates or accept any for that matter?

Nice try...keep reaching...everybody knows he was too busy involved with hillary trying to become the nominee, nobody expected their race to go as long as it did, so he really didn\'t have any time....McCain\'s a hypocrite,..he blasts him for not going, then when does go McCain states "uhm we have more important matters in the u.s."....pathetic...as you very well know..the republican race for the nominee was over months before the dems had their nominee....and while hillary & Obama was battling it out, McCain had time to make those trips over seas and to iraq.


And Obama will debate McCain when he\'s ready, not when McCain says so...