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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2008, 02:28:58 PM »
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Why don\'t you do some reading about our founding fathers?  Who is the one with the degree in Political Science and who isn\'t again?


Who is the racist and who isn\'t again?
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2008, 01:18:02 PM »
Updated for this week...

I would also like to add... although its a bit dated, three more pieces illustrating the change that Obama will bring.  Since it does not favorably portray Obama, it is immediately going to be deemed "propaganda"... even though it is merely a statement of facts.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PVKSfwfy0h8

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uud-fqelmaI&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DggGZqYebrQ&feature=related
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2008, 01:43:37 PM »
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I would also like to add... although its a bit dated, three more pieces illustrating the change that Obama will bring. Since it does not favorably portray Obama, it is immediately going to be deemed "propaganda"... even though it is merely a statement of facts.
 
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PVKSfwfy0h8
 
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uud-fqelmaI&feature=related
 
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DggGZqYebrQ&feature=related

Are you trying to state that Obama is not sufficiently anti-war, and use that as an argument for supporting McCain????  McCain is a greater war monger than even GW Bush.  
 
You are supporting McCain, right?  Or are you just arguing that Liberals should not vote for anyone?
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2008, 01:59:15 PM »
I support neither candidate.  I support spreading the truth and that means exposing Obama for the fraud he is.

I stand by Ron Paul and the principles of the campaign for liberty.  I will be voting third party, not because I think they can win, but because I am a principled person.

McCain gets plenty of negative press, Obama is treated like a golden child who will save us from the apocalypse.  I am simply making people aware of the fact that he\'s no different than anyone else on the ticket, in fact, he\'s worse.  He\'s a socialist who will tear this country apart.

Obama goes against everything I stand for as a Libertarian, numero uno being liberty.
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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2008, 02:32:02 PM »
What\'s so wrong with socialism or forms of it?

It works.
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« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2008, 03:20:10 PM »
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What\'s so wrong with socialism or forms of it?

It works.


Tell that to the Soviet Union.

Doctors and Garbage Men should not be making the same amount of money.
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« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2008, 03:24:04 PM »
oh shit, you were being sarcastic again...

don\'t we have a sarcasm tag?
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« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2008, 03:35:03 PM »
He might be talking about the scandanavian nations, in which case it\'s not sarcastic at all.
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« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2008, 12:47:03 PM »
McCain will need a lot more than the Bradley effect to overcome these odds.

As a point of reference in 2004...

Kerry Leads Bush 49% to 43% In Ohio (October 22 2004)
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« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2008, 01:49:41 PM »
What\'s the basis of the change in this survey? It seems pretty radical from week to week.
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« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2008, 02:07:02 PM »
it\'s based on who leads each state based on a collection of polls.

I would say anything in the 40-60% is still in play.
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« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2008, 02:47:11 PM »
It would be easier to interpret the data at a glance if it showed actual poll numbers for each state instead of "% Chance of McCain Winning."
 
Where did you get this table?
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« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2008, 05:57:00 AM »
I don\'t know... you can\'t take polls seriously.  After all Kerry was up on Bush by 11 pts around this time last election.  Polls are not that accurate in close races like this.
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« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2008, 06:15:49 AM »
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I don\'t know... you can\'t take polls seriously.  After all Kerry was up on Bush by 11 pts around this time last election.  Polls are not that accurate in close races like this.
Actually, no.  Bush was ahead of Kerry by a couple points at this time in the last presidential election.

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« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2008, 12:03:54 PM »
Meant to say Gore/Bush
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