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« on: September 26, 2008, 07:46:51 PM »
Who watched?  What did you think?

In my opinion Obama made a few key errors... multiple times...

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/26/john-is-right/

Overall, Obama laid out his plan.  McCain did suprisingly well on the economic issues.  Both candidates did their job.
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2008, 08:33:59 PM »
The "john is right" comment, was just Obama\'s way of showing that they agree on that particular issue, people are making a mountain out of a molehill on that one. Overall i give the edge to Obama(surprise i know ;)..)...but he held his own against McCain who was supposed to blow Obama away in foreign relations...Obama started off very strong and confident while McCain was trying to find his footing early on. Obama had a counter for every single statement McCain had.

McCain started to do a little better after Obama made fun of his bomb bomb iran statement, and it\'s clear that Obama is owning McCain as far as the economy is concerned, and McCain was more comfortable talking up his foreign policy experience and Obama countered and held his own in defining how he would do things differently than the current administration. Overall both candidates actually did better than i expected.

One thing i did notice tho,..McCain never looked at Obama..not once, and everytime Obama explained his views, he looked directly at McCain with confidence & poise and never losin\' his cool...he looked more presidential in this round.
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2008, 04:03:26 AM »
This sums up about how most folks feel about the debate...:fro:



http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/09/27/scheider.debate.wrap.cnn
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2008, 05:19:58 AM »
Quote from: clips
This sums up about how most folks feel about the debate...:fro:



http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/09/27/scheider.debate.wrap.cnn

The zero got his ass handed to him.  Showed how inexperienced he is.  I especially loved the uhhhh.. uhhh.. uhh\'s.  0bama was frequently rattled and looked angry at times.  Not to mention the spittle on his lower lip at one point.  :lmao:  John McCain was giving him economics and history lessons.  It was great, especially when 0bama kept trying to interrupt.  

Linking cnn after 0bama\'s campaign "endorsed" the network for debate coverage and then saying that is how "most folks" feel about the debate is laughable and shows how uneducated you are about the whole election.

Monkey boy lost.  He is wrong about the economy and foreign affairs.  He was wrong about Henry Kissenger\'s comments and Kissenger has since commented that Obozo was wrong.
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2008, 05:45:08 AM »
Both are wrong about being able to directly have in impact on the economy as Presidents. Most economists will agree that the economy takes it\'s own course, no matter who\'s in charge.

But foreign affairs are directly impacted by the president. And McCain is the only one who has that experience.  Putin would destroy Obama\'s o-ring.
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2008, 06:02:37 AM »
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Both are wrong about being able to directly have in impact on the economy as Presidents. Most economists will agree that the economy takes it\'s own course, no matter who\'s in charge.


Ron Paul would agree, the best economy is one that doesn\'t have the government\'s hands on it.
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2008, 11:14:45 AM »
Believe what you want to believe.  An AP story citing CNN and CBS polls shows shows Obama won the debate.  Posted on foxnews.com, that bastion of liberal bias:

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/27/snapshot-polls-give-obama-edge-over-mccain-in-debate/
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2008, 11:41:33 AM »
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Believe what you want to believe.  An AP story citing CNN and CBS polls shows shows Obama won the debate.  Posted on foxnews.com, that bastion of liberal bias:

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/27/snapshot-polls-give-obama-edge-over-mccain-in-debate/


Go ahead - live by the poll, die by the poll.  Polls are worthless.  Anyone with a brain saw that stuttering 0bama didn\'t know a thing about foreign affairs.  By the way who is Tom?
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2008, 12:11:54 PM »
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The zero got his ass handed to him.  Showed how inexperienced he is.  I especially loved the uhhhh.. uhhh.. uhh\'s.  0bama was frequently rattled and looked angry at times.  Not to mention the spittle on his lower lip at one point.  :lmao:  John McCain was giving him economics and history lessons.  It was great, especially when 0bama kept trying to interrupt.  

Linking cnn after 0bama\'s campaign "endorsed" the network for debate coverage and then saying that is how "most folks" feel about the debate is laughable and shows how uneducated you are about the whole election.

Monkey boy lost.  He is wrong about the economy and foreign affairs.  He was wrong about Henry Kissenger\'s comments and Kissenger has since commented that Obozo was wrong.



Keep reachin\'... Obama mopped the floor with McCain on the economics front every step of the way,...all McCain did was try to joke his way out in certain parts in which he recieved no pop at all,...Obama countered everything McCain stated and looked directly at McCain while saying it..:p..not once did McCain look over at him,...Obama also explained his views in a more detailed and articulated way than McCain. McCain\'s answers were drab & flat.

On foreign policy?...McCain shows he has knowledge, but this was his strength anyway, but in no way did he blow Obama away on foreign policy..Obama stood his ground, and gave clear reasons why the war in iraq was wrong in the first place, and he even flustered McCain by saying he wouldn\'t meet with spains president....why?..this goes back to spain pulling out of iraq, when the u.s. didn\'t really want them to, and recently McCain even called them adversaries? but yet they are fighting side-by-side with our troops in afghanastan, and you say he\'s going to heal the wounds set by Bush?....you are truly delusional....he has the same arrogant attitude as bush and country\'s all over the world will continue to look at the u.s. in a bad light if he is president.

McCain held a townhouse meeting awhile back during the georgia/russia scenario and in saying that "we are all georgians"...he even made indications that he would engage russia if the situation continued(militarily),..no negotiations at all...he\'s just like bush in that aspect,...and that is the same kind of rhetoric that has gotten us into the misguided war that is iraq....McCains twisted philosophies are the kind that are not needed for america.
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2008, 12:28:09 PM »
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Anyone with a brain saw that stuttering 0bama didn\'t know a thing about foreign affairs.

Might be time to root for the other guy then. Our leaders aren\'t usually elected by the people with brains...
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2008, 03:36:08 PM »
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The zero got his ass handed to him.  Showed how inexperienced he is.  I especially loved the uhhhh.. uhhh.. uhh\'s.  0bama was frequently rattled and looked angry at times.  Not to mention the spittle on his lower lip at one point.  :lmao:  John McCain was giving him economics and history lessons.  It was great, especially when 0bama kept trying to interrupt.  

Linking cnn after 0bama\'s campaign "endorsed" the network for debate coverage and then saying that is how "most folks" feel about the debate is laughable and shows how uneducated you are about the whole election.

Monkey boy lost.  He is wrong about the economy and foreign affairs.  He was wrong about Henry Kissenger\'s comments and Kissenger has since commented that Obozo was wrong.

Sorry, I can\'t be bothered to read racist trash.

Monkey boy?
Bring out the lynching mob, by all means.
The fact you can\'t make a simple post explaining your view point without using "0bama" or "Monkey Boy" says a lot.

By the way, welcome to the minority. You\'re one of the few who actually thought McCain "won" that debate.
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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2008, 04:01:59 PM »
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Keep reachin\'... Obama mopped the floor with McCain on the economics front every step of the way,...all McCain did was try to joke his way out in certain parts in which he recieved no pop at all,...Obama countered everything McCain stated and looked directly at McCain while saying it..:p..not once did McCain look over at him,...Obama also explained his views in a more detailed and articulated way than McCain. McCain\'s answers were drab & flat.

On foreign policy?...McCain shows he has knowledge, but this was his strength anyway, but in no way did he blow Obama away on foreign policy..Obama stood his ground, and gave clear reasons why the war in iraq was wrong in the first place, and he even flustered McCain by saying he wouldn\'t meet with spains president....why?..this goes back to spain pulling out of iraq, when the u.s. didn\'t really want them to, and recently McCain even called them adversaries? but yet they are fighting side-by-side with our troops in afghanastan, and you say he\'s going to heal the wounds set by Bush?....you are truly delusional....he has the same arrogant attitude as bush and country\'s all over the world will continue to look at the u.s. in a bad light if he is president.

McCain held a townhouse meeting awhile back during the georgia/russia scenario and in saying that "we are all georgians"...he even made indications that he would engage russia if the situation continued(militarily),..no negotiations at all...he\'s just like bush in that aspect,...and that is the same kind of rhetoric that has gotten us into the misguided war that is iraq....McCains twisted philosophies are the kind that are not needed for america.

LOL you are reaching.  0bozo reach across the aisle?  The right hates him more than you hate Bush.  Countries all over the world want the monkey to be president because he is socialist like them.  

By the way the gaffe of the night was 0bozo saying "I have a bracelet too!" and he couldn\'t even remember the name on it.  It was also rude of 0bozo to called Senator McCain, John all the time - while McCain called him Senator Obama.  Sound trivial?  Just as trivial as "McCain not looking at him and addressing the audience.  Should we talk about the monkey\'s stuttering attempts to interrupt McCain?  How about ear marks since you seem to think 0 did such a grand job on the economy.  You can\'t raise taxes and expect the economy to recover - it doesn\'t work that way.  Why won\'t the 0 admit the surge worked?  

Is he like Bush in that he can\'t admit he was wrong?  Doh!  You are stupid clips.  I my be an asshole, but most will agree you are uneducated.  Typical 0bama supporter.

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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2008, 04:29:05 PM »
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LOL you are reaching.  0bozo reach across the aisle?  The right hates him more than you hate Bush.  Countries all over the world want the monkey to be president because he is socialist like them.  

By the way the gaffe of the night was 0bozo saying "I have a bracelet too!" and he couldn\'t even remember the name on it.  It was also rude of 0bozo to called Senator McCain, John all the time - while McCain called him Senator Obama.  Sound trivial?  Just as trivial as "McCain not looking at him and addressing the audience.  Should we talk about the monkey\'s stuttering attempts to interrupt McCain?  How about ear marks since you seem to think 0 did such a grand job on the economy.  You can\'t raise taxes and expect the economy to recover - it doesn\'t work that way.  Why won\'t the 0 admit the surge worked?  

Is he like Bush in that he can\'t admit he was wrong?  Doh!  You are stupid clips.  I my be an asshole, but most will agree you are uneducated.  Typical 0bama supporter.

LIC if you don\'t like it don\'t reply.


The only stupid person here, is the bigot. And I only see one racist bigot posting at the moment.

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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2008, 07:03:48 PM »
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The only stupid person here, is the bigot. And I only see one racist bigot posting at the moment.


Oh its ok to call Bush a "chimp", but don\'t dare call the 0bamamessiah a "monkey".  Nice double standard there.
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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2008, 07:21:54 PM »
Straw polls mean nothing in politics.  Ron Paul was HEAVILY favored in many straw polls in his bid to earn the republican nomination.  Unfortunately his core demographic appeal was young independents, who don\'t really matter enough come election time.  I honestly believe Obama will suffer the same fate.
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