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Offline JBean
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« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2008, 08:00:35 AM »
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I\'ll be honest, I actually liked that.  She even came out and said something to the effect of, "I may not answer all your questions, but I want to get my point across."  I like the fact that she was willing to push back against the moderator and control the pace of the debate.


Sorry you feel that way, it just came off that she didn\'t know jack about the issue at hand she would go back to energy. I swore if she went back to energy one more time.  Of course if you like her or are a Republican she had you eating out of her hand.  I just can\'t vote for McCain/Palin because of her, her being first in line to the oldest president in history scares the shit out of me.

But I will say that she did a bang up job at masking her deficiencies in policy knowledge and foreign affairs.

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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2008, 08:04:28 AM »
Right now, what I care about is bankrupting the middle east oil barons. I don\'t care if it takes 10 years to do it, but if Palin has a plan for that path, I\'ll be right behind her. Hopefully in a literal manner.
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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2008, 08:26:45 AM »
This one is for you Kennedy....brought to you by "fix"..uhm fox news...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTkqosRiyYo


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I am tired of your anti-conservative remarks. Your just as big an idiot as the rest of them. Everyone keeps complaining about the state of the economy, but when Obama gets elected and he starts taxing all these businesses and they have to let their employees go because they have no more money... you\'ll be wishing you voted the other way.



And just so you know...he\'s only going to tax those companies that ship american jobs overseas...makes sense doesn\'t it? And Obama isn\'t even president yet and these companies are already losing money because of their own greed. Maybe taxing them will keep them honest and stop them from making stupid decisions.
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« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2008, 08:39:06 AM »
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The VP debate all comes down to who is more likable and who the public connects with. On that front - Sarah Palin crushed Biden, who came across as a stuffy old angry man.



At the end of the day most people still feel Palin is not qualified to be the president should McCain croak.....one debate isn\'t going to fix that. People have seen Palin in her natural form in those interviews and clearly this chick doesn\'t have a clue.
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« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2008, 09:02:14 AM »
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And just so you know...he\'s only going to tax those companies that ship american jobs overseas...makes sense doesn\'t it? And Obama isn\'t even president yet and these companies are already losing money because of their own greed. Maybe taxing them will keep them honest and stop them from making stupid decisions.


Did Obama tell you that?
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« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2008, 09:03:27 AM »
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At the end of the day most people still feel Palin is not qualified to be the president should McCain croak.....one debate isn\'t going to fix that. People have seen Palin in her natural form in those interviews and clearly this chick doesn\'t have a clue.


Palin is just as qualified as Obama.  She\'s not even running for President.
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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2008, 09:05:14 AM »
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At the end of the day most people still feel Palin is not qualified to be the president should McCain croak.....one debate isn\'t going to fix that. People have seen Palin in her natural form in those interviews and clearly this chick doesn\'t have a clue.


Natural form?  You mean heavily edited natural form?  0bama isn\'t qualified to be President if he gets elected.  People have seen the true 0bama when he states people cling to guns and religion.

Fox News is the only news outlet in the US that isn\'t in the tank for 0bama.  Name me another one if you can.  Oh thats right you can\'t.
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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2008, 09:06:49 AM »
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Palin is just as qualified as Obama.  She\'s not even running for President.


This is liberals only defense against Palin.  They think if they keep saying it over and over again it will be true.
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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2008, 09:10:17 AM »
I just want to make sure people are aware that Barack Obama voted for legislation that directly led to the financial crisis... somehow people are pinning this on McCain.
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« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2008, 09:15:44 AM »
The media is facilitating that also.  In the debate next week McCain needs to blast Obama on his voting record and trumpet his own.
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« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2008, 09:17:38 AM »
It truely is amazing how much the network news skews to the different sides.  FOX Says she did fine and held her own, I turn to MSNBC and they blast her for going off question.  Can you tell me one debate where the people actually answered the quests from the moderator?  They go off point constantly to get what they want said in.

I think she did great personally and I could listen to her speak way before any of the other three candidates.

Biden going on and on about foreign policy, well no shit he is going to have more foreign policy experience than she is.  But who really cares?  She has aides to fill any gaps she has in any policy decision she is unclear on.

Speaking of gaps.....  hubba hubba.
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« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2008, 09:21:22 AM »
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It truely is amazing how much the network news skews to the different sides.  FOX Says she did fine and held her own, I turn to MSNBC and they blast her for going off question.  Can you tell me one debate where the people actually answered the quests from the moderator?  They go off point constantly to get what they want said in.

I think she did great personally and I could listen to her speak way before any of the other three candidates.

Biden going on and on about foreign policy, well no shit he is going to have more foreign policy experience than she is.  But who really cares?  She has aides to fill any gaps she has in any policy decision she is unclear on.

Speaking of gaps.....  hubba hubba.


I deleted MSNBC from my channel lineup.  The amount of garbage that comes from that channel is sickening.  Fox is the least biased network left in the US.
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« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2008, 09:23:41 AM »
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I deleted MSNBC from my channel lineup.  The amount of garbage that comes from that channel is sickening.  Fox is the least biased network left in the US.

Since that\'s the case liberals dismiss it as conservatively biased... and yet, all the other networks are 100% fair.  Go figure.
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« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2008, 09:36:45 AM »
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He offers no change, he is more of the same, and he seeks only to make our lives even worse.

How could our lives get even worse if he offers no change? He\'d have to change some things to be worse, no?
 
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Palin is just as qualified as Obama. She\'s not even running for President.

Did Dick Cheney tell you that? The VP spot is not exactly window dressing.

Also, about the media, this guy provides a list of shows to watch to keep a centrist diet, and one of them even appears on Fox News. http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/Media-Bias-Is-Real-Finds-UCLA-6664.aspx
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« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2008, 01:07:43 PM »
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How could our lives get even worse if he offers no change? He\'d have to change some things to be worse, no?

When you don\'t fix things, they tend to get worse.
 

 
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Did Dick Cheney tell you that? The VP spot is not exactly window dressing.

I am confident she could do the job, yes, seeing as how she has several years of EXECUTIVE experience.  How many does Biden have?  Or Obama?  Even McCain for that matter?  She\'s just as qualified as the rest of them.

Let me also make one thing clear.  Whether you like it or not, Obama approved legislation that directly led to the economic crisis we live in.  Obama believed that "everyone" has a right to own a home.  It\'s a nice thought but not feasible.  So his idea was to force banks to issue "subprime mortgages" so that people could live beyond their means.  So your typical low-income family who can barely afford their current standard of living is now suddenly being approved for mortgages in excess of 300,000 dollars.  Obama didn\'t think it was "fair" (a term used by Biden on several occasions last night) that people with bad credit weren\'t allowed to own a home.  Well gee, lets issue disgustingly large amounts of money to people with bad credit.  Is that the "Change" you can believe in?

Don\'t believe me?  Google "Community Reinvestment Act".  He didn\'t author the bill, that honor goes to Jimmy Carter, but he damn sure supports it, and fought against changes that GWB wanted to make in 2005 to make it tougher to get loans.  In fact, he sued CitiBank to force it to make bad loans.  And to sweeten the pot, one of Obama\'s financial advisers is the former CEO of Fannie Mae.  Wonderful.

Speaking of Fannie Mae, that wonderful government sponsored program, they went on a man-hunt to issue subprime mortgages to low-income families and then sold them to banks.  What did Fannie care, they were making money...

Now just in case you try to play the "Banks weren\'t forced" card, they were.  There was a penalty for those banks who didn\'t hit their quota of subprime mortgages.  The fact of the matter is this, people with no money should not be buying houses, Obama feels they are entitled to one.  Eventually the subprime mortgage market broke, and there were no more buyers, and yet a lot of bad debt floating around.  In a sense, Fannie Mae\'s guarantees of backing these mortgages was "worthless(chuckle)".

Guess what?  It gets even better!  The Bush administration (while not my favorite to say the least) actually tried to stop Fannie Mae and oversee everything they were doing.  But someone stopped it.... who?  The Democrats.  Remember Barney Frank? Melvin Watt?  You know who else tried to stop it?  In 2005?  John McCain (again, not my favorite person, but trying to prove a point).

Think that\'s a bunch of crap?  Google "The Housing Enterprise Regulatory Act of 2005".  Oh boy!  This is fun.  Another fun little tidbit, one of Obama\'s advisors is Franklin Raines, I\'ll let you find out who that is...

Obama did get his wish in the end though.  Lots of "affordable mortgages".  Oh and his friends got richer too.  Guess that\'s all that really matters in the end though.  But hey, he\'s charismatic and he\'s black, so people feel bad not liking him.  The best villains in this world are the ones who think their right.  The democratic spin doctors did a masterful job having McCain take the fall on this one.  I truly feel that McCain is waiting for one of the last debates to unleash this information to the mass audiences so that Obama will have no time to retaliate.

Sorry if the truth hurts guys.  Obama is not the man you think he is.  Thanks for playing though.
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