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Offline Mr. Kennedy
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« Reply #75 on: October 13, 2008, 11:13:05 AM »
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I want marijuana legalized. Now that\'s radical.


It definitely should be, especially for sick people who are suffering.  I\'m not a user, but I do know this, making it illegal only puts money into the hands of criminals.

It\'s like when people argue with me on gun control.  If you make guns illegal, then your taking them out of good people\'s hands and creating a black market for them.  Criminals profit from things that are illegal.
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« Reply #76 on: October 13, 2008, 11:14:00 AM »
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It definitely should be, especially for sick people who are suffering.  I\'m not a user, but I do know this, making it illegal only puts money into the hands of criminals.

It\'s like when people argue with me on gun control.  If you make guns illegal, then your taking them out of good people\'s hands and creating a [COLOR="Red"]black[/COLOR][/B] market for them.  Criminals profit from things that are illegal.



RACIST! You said "black"! ;)
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« Reply #77 on: October 13, 2008, 11:34:54 AM »
BARONE: The coming liberal thugocracy
Michael Barone

COMMENTARY:

"I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors," Barack Obama told a crowd in Elko, Nev. "I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face." Actually, Obama supporters are doing a lot more than getting into people\'s faces. They seem determined to shut people up.

That\'s what Obama supporters, alerted by campaign e-mails, did when conservative Stanley Kurtz appeared on Milt Rosenberg\'s WGN radio program in Chicago. Mr. Kurtz had been researching Mr. Obama\'s relationship with unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers in Chicago Annenberg Challenge papers in the Richard J. Daley Library in Chicago - papers that were closed off to him for some days, apparently at the behest of Obama supporters.

Obama fans jammed WGN\'s phone lines and sent in hundreds of protest e-mails. The message was clear to anyone who would follow Mr. Rosenberg\'s example. We will make trouble for you if you let anyone make the case against The One.

Other Obama supporters have threatened critics with criminal prosecution. In September, St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch and St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce warned citizens that they would bring criminal libel prosecutions against anyone who made statements against Mr. Obama that were "false." I had been under the impression that the Alien and Sedition Acts had gone out of existence in 1801-\'02. Not so, apparently, in metropolitan St. Louis. Similarly, the Obama campaign called for a criminal investigation of the American Issues Project when it ran ads highlighting Mr. Obama\'s ties to Mr. Ayers.

These attempts to shut down political speech have become routine for liberals. Congressional Democrats sought to reimpose the "fairness doctrine" on broadcasters, which until it was repealed in the 1980s required equal time for different points of view. The motive was plain: to shut down the one conservative-leaning communications medium, talk radio. Liberal talk-show hosts have mostly failed to draw audiences, and many liberals can\'t abide having citizens hear contrary views.

To their credit, some liberal old-timers - like House Appropriations Chairman David Obey - voted against the "fairness doctrine," in line with their longstanding support of free speech. But you can expect the "fairness doctrine" to get another vote if Barack Obama wins and Democrats increase their congressional majorities.

Corporate liberals have done their share in shutting down anti-liberal speech, too. "Saturday Night Live" ran a spoof of the financial crisis that skewered Democrats like House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank and liberal contributors Herbert and Marion Sandler, who sold toxic-waste-filled Golden West to Wachovia Bank for $24 billion. Kind of surprising, but not for long. The tape of the broadcast disappeared from NBC\'s Web site and was replaced with another that omitted the references to Mr. Frank and the Sandlers. Evidently NBC and its parent, General Electric, don\'t want people to hear speech that attacks liberals.

Then there\'s the Democrats\' "card check" legislation that would abolish secret ballot elections in determining whether employees are represented by unions. The unions\' strategy is obvious: Send a few thugs over to employees\' homes - we know where you live - and get them to sign cards that will trigger a union victory without giving employers a chance to be heard.

Once upon a time, liberals prided themselves, with considerable reason, as the staunchest defenders of free speech. Union organizers in the 1930s and 1940s made the case that they should have access to employees to speak freely to them, and union leaders like George Meany and Walter Reuther were ardent defenders of the First Amendment.

Today\'s liberals seem to be taking their marching orders from other quarters. Specifically, from the college and university campuses where administrators, armed with speech codes, have for years been disciplining and subjecting to sensitivity training any students who dare to utter thoughts that liberals find offensive. The campuses that once prided themselves as zones of free expression are now the least free part of our society.

Obama supporters who found the campuses congenial and Mr. Obama himself, who has chosen to live all his adult life in university communities, seem to find it entirely natural to suppress speech they don\'t like and seem utterly oblivious to claims this violates the letter and spirit of the First Amendment. In this campaign, we have seen the coming of the Obama thugocracy, suppressing free speech, and we may see its flourishing in the four or eight years ahead.

• Michael Barone is a nationally syndicated columnist.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/13/the-coming-thugocracy/print/

This is what I am talking about.  So called Progressives you see on the nightly news etc. do this crap on a regular basis.  It is disgusting.
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« Reply #78 on: October 13, 2008, 11:36:31 AM »
Just found this...  Ack!  This is not good at all.

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/195153.html
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« Reply #79 on: October 13, 2008, 11:41:34 AM »
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Just found this...  Ack!  This is not good at all.

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/195153.html


Uh....Obama....get your hands outta my wallet.
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« Reply #80 on: October 13, 2008, 11:54:06 AM »
I can\'t believe he said that.  Basically, "That is great you succeeded, but now I need to take your money to give to people behind you."
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« Reply #81 on: October 13, 2008, 11:57:32 AM »
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I can\'t believe he said that.  Basically, "That is great you succeeded, but now I need to take your money to give to people behind you."


Why do people think the gov\'t owes them something?
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« Reply #82 on: October 13, 2008, 12:28:38 PM »
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Just found this...  Ack!  This is not good at all.

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/195153.html


shit

God help us if he\'s elected.  The is exactly what we don\'t need.  The government writing checks to the unsuccessful at my expense.
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« Reply #83 on: October 13, 2008, 02:15:17 PM »
Will you guys get yer thongs outta yer ass?...if you make over $250,000 a year you will get taxed, and even then it would be rolled back to the taxes of when clinton was prez....he has not said anything differently....why are you guys acting like this is new?...and furthermore do you make over $250,000?....he\'s not going to put those people that do make that much in the poor house by proposing this plan.


Stop thinking that this plan helps only those that are lazy in the ghetto and trailer parks, this helps hard working middle class folks that are struggling to make ends meet. Those folks that go to work everyday with 401k plans, that pay their mortgage on time, and trying to find ways to send their kids to college....that is the tax plan\'s main focus...



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Nope. I didn\'t see black people on a daily basis wearing around white candidate\'s t-shirt.



I remember alot of folks wearin\' Bill Clinton\'s T-shirt...
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« Reply #84 on: October 13, 2008, 03:28:15 PM »
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Will you guys get yer thongs outta yer ass?...if you make over $250,000 a year you will get taxed, and even then it would be rolled back to the taxes of when clinton was prez....he has not said anything differently....why are you guys acting like this is new?...and furthermore do you make over $250,000?....he\'s not going to put those people that do make that much in the poor house by proposing this plan.


Stop thinking that this plan helps only those that are lazy in the ghetto and trailer parks, this helps hard working middle class folks that are struggling to make ends meet. Those folks that go to work everyday with 401k plans, that pay their mortgage on time, and trying to find ways to send their kids to college....that is the tax plan\'s main focus...






I remember alot of folks wearin\' Bill Clinton\'s T-shirt...


I\'m pretty sure they said that was just Obama playing with numbers seeing as 1/3 of the country already doesn\'t pay taxes.
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« Reply #85 on: October 13, 2008, 04:11:20 PM »
Quote of what Obama said:

Plumber to Obama: “Your new tax plan is going to tax me more. Isn’t it?”

Obama: “It’s not that I want to punish your success, I just want to make sure that everybody that is behind you, that they have a chance for success too. I think that when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

Sorry, that is socialism.  No two ways about it.  "It is unpatriotic to be successful."  This is the second time the Obama Biden ticket has promised to raise taxes.

clips you don\'t understand.  Most small business owners make over 250k a year.  How many "rich" plumbers to you know clips?  I bet they hang out at the country club with all the CEOs and doctors.  You don\'t raise taxes in an already struggling economy.
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« Reply #86 on: October 13, 2008, 04:35:46 PM »
Don\'t know if Kennedy posted this, but it goes along with the above comment by Obama, except on a global level.

Obama\'s Global Tax

By INVESTOR\'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:20 PM PT

Election \'08: A plan by Barack Obama to redistribute American wealth on a global level is moving forward in the Senate. It follows Marxist theology — from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

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We are citizens of the world, Sen. Obama told thousands of nonvoting Germans during his recent tour of the Middle East and Europe. And if the Global Poverty Act (S. 2433) he has sponsored becomes law, which is almost certain if he wins in November, we\'re also going to be taxpayers of the world.

Speaking in Berlin, Obama said: "While the 20th century taught us that we share a common destiny, the 21st has revealed a world more intertwined than at any time in human history."

What the 20th century really showed was a series of totalitarian threats — from fascism to Nazism to communism — defeated by the U.S. military. Hitler\'s Germany, Mussolini\'s Italy, Tojo\'s Japan and the Soviet Union offered destinies we did not share.

Our destiny of peace and freedom through strength was not achieved by a transnationalist fantasy of buying the world a Coke and singing "Kumbaya."

Obama\'s Global Poverty Act offers us a global socialist destiny we do not want, one that challenges America\'s very sovereignty. The former "post-racial" candidate obviously intends to be a post-national president.

A statement from Obama\'s office says: "With billions of people living on just dollars a day around the world, global poverty remains one of the greatest challenges and tragedies the international community faces. It must be a priority of American foreign policy to commit to eliminating extreme poverty and ensuring every child has food, shelter and clean drinking water."

These are worthy goals, but note there\'s no mention of spreading democracy, expanding free trade, promoting entrepreneurial capitalism or ridding the world of despots who rule and ravage countries such as Zimbabwe and Sudan.

Obama would give them all a fish without teaching them how to fish. Pledging to cut global poverty in half on the backs of U.S. taxpayers is a ridiculous and impossible goal.

His legislation refers to the "millennium development goal," a phrase from a declaration adopted by the United Nations Millennium Assembly in 2000 and supported by President Clinton.

It calls for the "eradication of poverty" in part through the "redistribution (of) wealth of land" and "a fair distribution of the earth\'s resources." In other words: American resources.

It\'s a mantra of liberals that the U.S. is only a small portion of the world\'s population yet consumes an unseemly portion of the planet\'s supposedly finite resources. Never mentioned is the fact that America\'s population, just 5% of the world\'s total, also produces a stunning 27% of the world\'s GDP — to the enormous benefit of other countries. Nonetheless, their solution is to siphon off the product of our free democracy and distribute it.

We already transfer too much national wealth to the United Nations and its busybody agencies. Obama\'s bill would force U.S. taxpayers to fork over 0.7% of our gross domestic product every year to fund a global war on poverty, spending well above the $16.3 billion in global poverty aid the U.S. already spends.

Over a 13-year period, from 2002, when the U.N.\'s Financing for Development Conference was held, to the target year of 2015, when the U.S is expected to meet its part of the U.N. Millennium goals, we would be spending an additional $65 billion annually for a total of $845 billion.

During a time of economic uncertainty, the plan would cost every American taxpayer around $2,500.

If you\'re worried abut gasoline and heating oil prices now, think what they\'ll be like when the U.S. is subjected in an Obama administration to global energy consumption and production taxes. Obama\'s Global Poverty Act is the "international community\'s" foot in the door.

The U.N. Millennium declaration called for a "currency transfer tax," a "tax on the rental value of land and natural resources," a "royalty on worldwide fossil energy production — oil, natural gas, coal . . . fees for the commercial use of the oceans, fees for the airplane use of the skies, fees for the use of the electromagnetic spectrum, fees on foreign exchange transactions, and a tax on the carbon content of fuels."

Co-sponsors of S. 2433 include Democrats Maria Cantwell of Washington, Dianne Feinstein of California, Richard Durbin of Illinois and Robert Menendez of New Jersey. GOP globalists supporting the bill include Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Richard Lugar of Indiana.

Lugar has worked with Obama to promote more aid to Russia to promote nuclear nonproliferation. Lugar also promotes the Law of the Sea treaty, which turns over the world\'s oceans to an International Seabed Authority that would charge us to drill offshore and have veto power over the movements and actions of the U.S. Navy.

Obama\'s agenda sounds like defeated 2004 Democratic candidate John Kerry\'s "global test" for U.S. foreign policy decisions where "you have to do it in a way that passes the test — that passes the global test — where your countrymen, your people understand fully why you\'re doing what you\'re doing and you can prove to the world that you did it for legitimate reasons."

Obama has called on the U.S. to "lead by example" on global warming and probably would submit to a Kyoto-like agreement that would sock Americans with literally trillions of dollars in costs over the next half century for little or no benefit.

"We can\'t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times . . . and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama has said. "That\'s not leadership. That\'s not going to happen."

Oh, really? Who\'s to say we can\'t load up our SUV and head out in search of bacon double cheeseburgers at the mall? China? India? Bangladesh? The U.N.?

In an Obama White House, American sovereignty will become an endangered species. The Global Poverty Act is the first toe in the water of global socialism.

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=302222641317480

This is what we who don\'t like Obama, don\'t like.  Our tax money going to the world???????!?!?!?!?!?!?????
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« Reply #87 on: October 13, 2008, 05:30:20 PM »
Our fucking tax money goes to the world anyway........We fund relief, wars, and what not, all over the globe.
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« Reply #88 on: October 13, 2008, 05:53:02 PM »
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Our fucking tax money goes to the world anyway........We fund relief, wars, and what not, all over the globe.


Read the article.  Obama\'s tax is on top of what we already give.
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« Reply #89 on: October 13, 2008, 06:05:58 PM »
So that is not a big surprise at all. Both sides add on every year. Don\'t grasp, it makes you look desperate.
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