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Offline GigaShadow
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The constitution is a charter of negative liberties?
« Reply #75 on: November 01, 2008, 03:55:06 PM »
If that were the case Nobama wouldn\'t even be a citizen in this country.  Well... maybe he isn\'t.  At least his Aunt isn\'t anyway.
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Wrong. There are two other people who can.
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« Reply #77 on: November 01, 2008, 06:55:07 PM »
Somebody on welfare should not have the right to vote in an election, so that they are not allowed to continue there welfare and to leach off the system and possibly better themselves.

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« Reply #78 on: November 02, 2008, 04:43:27 AM »
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Somebody on welfare should not have the right to vote in an election, so that they are not allowed to continue there welfare and to leach off the system and possibly better themselves.



Dumbest thing...ever

Next we\'ll add people to disability. Then people who have WIC...The list goes on and on.

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« Reply #79 on: November 02, 2008, 07:54:56 AM »
People with disability isn\'t comparable to welfare in the least.

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« Reply #80 on: November 02, 2008, 10:01:00 AM »
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Somebody on welfare should not have the right to vote in an election, so that they are not allowed to continue there welfare and to leach off the system and possibly better themselves.



And everyone on the welfare system is leeching?  You can\'t punish everyone because some people are abusing the system.
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« Reply #81 on: November 02, 2008, 04:55:00 PM »
Enough people do to make a case for it.

Maybe we could do a weighted system whereas, the more you contribute to society, the more your vote counts.

Let\'s just keep brainstorming ideas.
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« Reply #82 on: November 02, 2008, 05:09:40 PM »
So what would determine who "contributes" to society?  Sounds on the surface like a ploy to give the top 5% even more influence than they already have.  Everyone has an equal say in this country, anything less is outright blasphemous.
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« Reply #83 on: November 02, 2008, 07:23:50 PM »
things like...

works
donations to charity/research
no felonies

those are good judgments of character and contribution to society, not sure how that factors into the top 5%
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« Reply #84 on: November 02, 2008, 08:33:57 PM »
The majority of us work and don\'t have felonies so that just leaves.....


Donations- so you\'re saying the people with the most money get the most influence, isn\'t that something people have fought to stop?  I mean, I work hard, i make a decent living, but I don\'t have a spare half a mil in my bank account to donate.  Does that mean my rich buddy, who only has money because of his parents (this is not a fictional character), can donate more than I can make in a year and have more influence than me?  How can that even remotely sound like a good idea.

Edit:  I\'m just confused why on earth you would want a tiered voting system, it just reeks of jim crow laws.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2008, 08:40:03 PM by Phil »
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« Reply #85 on: November 03, 2008, 04:36:27 AM »
everyone would have more money if we had less taxes
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« Reply #86 on: November 03, 2008, 04:59:31 AM »
I wish they could make you take a test before voting.  I mean there are a lot of people out there that there is NO WAY they can make an informed decision.

These are of course the people on the DNC busses being tricked to the polling locations.  :)
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« Reply #87 on: November 03, 2008, 07:43:36 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Kennedy
things like...

works
donations to charity/research
no felonies

those are good judgments of character and contribution to society, not sure how that factors into the top 5%



In every way.


They all have to work to keep that money.
Most of them donate b/c of the benefits they recieve either from the IRS or public image.
Alot have committed several felonies on their way to the top.
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« Reply #88 on: November 03, 2008, 08:11:45 AM »
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Alot have committed several felonies on their way to the top.


so that would work against them

I agree with Vid, there should be a test to vote.  Know your candidates policies instead of just voting for the black guy.
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« Reply #89 on: November 03, 2008, 09:27:00 AM »
Where do you get this notion that black people vote? lol

The ones that do, I would only assume since they cared enough to vote they would know a little about who they were voting for.

I want to see the voting demographics Wednesday and compare to previous elections.

If we are going to do tests, we may as well test ppl to see if they know how to hold their liquor

Driving tests are a joke. Look how many people that cannot drive, drive improperly, and just flat out do not know the rules of the road. Dumb ass people still get DL\'s. :)
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