Bailing out the US auto industry

Bonneville\'s were horribly unreliable. I had a 92 SSEi, electrical gremlins up the ying yang, alt. issues, trans issues.

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Also, I disagree with his comments about Audi.  Audi makes some of the most unreliable automobiles in the luxury car segment.  Their rise has been more a matter of marketing genius than technical achievement.

I disagree with you. I have had an Audi A6 (\'06) for the past 2 years without any problems. The 2003 and newer models are a vast improvement over the previous model years.

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I disagree with you. I have had an Audi A6 (\'06) for the past 2 years without any problems. The 2003 and newer models are a vast improvement over the previous model years.

Yeah...i thought the quality of audi have improved incredibily over the years....i don\'t know what their status is as far as their reliabilty percentages currently, but i do remember those audi 5000 cars from the 90\'s,... LAWD HAMMERCY!!!, now those cars were complete garbage.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/11/news/companies/auto_bailout_senate/index.htm

Big 3 baillout dead for now.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said the sticking point was the United Auto Workers\' refusal to set a "date certain" to put employees at U.S. auto manufacturers at "parity pay" with U.S. employees at foreign automakers in the United States.

Unions at it again......

They wonder why they are going to DC with a tin cup.

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http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/11/news/companies/auto_bailout_senate/index.htm

Big 3 baillout dead for now.



Unions at it again......

They wonder why they are going to DC with a tin cup.

I don\'t know what to say...on the one hand why should they take a pay cut when the CEO\'s won\'t even do away with or reduce the bonues they receive? Instead of taking a pay cut, they(the union workers) could have just agreed to forego the yearly raises that they recieve for say about 3 - 4 years. Then again if the unions really wanted to save their jobs, i guess they would have agreed to the terms. From what i understand it was a cut of about 3-4 dollars...which may not seem like alot, but to the average worker i can see how hard it can be to give that up.

But if it was either that or my job, then i\'d gladly give it up....i just feel that if these ceo\'s that are already makin\' millions just gave up the bonuses they recieve, the workers won\'t have to take a hit on their salary...the bonuses is just extra money for the ceo\'s in ADDITION to the yearly raise they receive from the company.

Would you like to take a pay cut or lose your job?   hmmm I\'ll get back to you on that one.......



wow

It is just amazing to me that motherfuckers beg for money and no one is willing to budge. Everyone except for the people that have to pay for this is to blame, yet none of them want to sacrifice anything. Not to mention anytime something related to the american auto industry gets tied up, it is almost always the fuckin UAW. Let them start taking care of their precious workers pensions now instead of 2 years from now if they really want to help this situation.

Im really torn on this issue because of the possible ramifications, but something has to give.

I lost my job in November b/c of cost cutting. The economy is not fair and shit happens.

I lost my job in November b/c of cost cutting. The economy is not fair and shit happens.

But were you able to find another one?

Not yet, but I haven\'t exactly been 100% active in my search either.

You could always become a pimp at an old folks home somewhere in FL

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Would you like to take a pay cut or lose your job?   hmmm I\'ll get back to you on that one.......



wow

Heh, sounds a bit crazy?...not to me..have you seen the economy or are you just oblivious to what is goin\' on? Seriously, i have a family to think about (granted if it was a reasonable cut)....i\'d have to swallow my pride and bite the bullet until i found something better. When i first moved to georgia, it took me exactly six months to find a gig, and that was before all of this crap with the economy went down.

Now if i was a single bachelor such as yourself then i\'d gladly tell those cats to kiss my ass, but i\'m not afforded that luxury...

I don\'t get what you\'re saying

Those poor UAW workers...

Here are figures for total compensation per hour (Wages + benefits?):

Chrysler: $75
GM: $73
Ford: $70
Toyota: $47
Honda: $42
Nissan: $41
http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2008/11/bailout-ultimate-in-lemon-socialism.html

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I don\'t get what you\'re saying

Uhm exactly what i posted...if the manager came to me with a choice of either you have to take a pay cut or we might have to let some folks go, then i\'ll take the pay cut (granted if it isn\'t outrageous)....you\'re saying that you would just quit if the manager hit you with those choices,...for me being that i have a family, i can\'t just up and quit a job like that,...i\'ll take the hit temporarily until i found another job.

I was stating that you probably didn\'t have a family since you were implying that you would just bounce if the manager gave you that option....either that or you have a ton of cash stashed somewhere and you\'re not worried about finding another gig.

Uhm exactly what i posted...if the manager came to me with a choice of either you have to take a pay cut or we might have to let some folks go, then i\'ll take the pay cut (granted if it isn\'t outrageous)....you\'re saying that you would just quit if the manager hit you with those choices,...for me being that i have a family, i can\'t just up and quit a job like that,...i\'ll take the hit temporarily until i found another job.

I was stating that you probably didn\'t have a family since you were implying that you would just bounce if the manager gave you that option....either that or you have a ton of cash stashed somewhere and you\'re not worried about finding another gig.

I didn\'t get what you were saying because CLEARLY my original statement was joking about how the UAW wouldn\'t take the pay cut instead of losing their job.   Maybe you\'re just oblivious to what\'s going on....