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Senate OKs 4-month delay to digital TV changeover
By JOELLE TESSLER
Associated Press Writer
Posted: Monday, Jan. 26, 2009

WASHINGTON The Senate on Monday voted unanimously to postpone the upcoming transition from analog to digital television broadcasting by four months to June 12 - setting the stage for Congress to pass the proposal as early as Tuesday.

Monday\'s Senate vote is a big victory for the Obama administration and Democrats in Congress, who have been pushing for a delay amid growing concerns that too many Americans won\'t be ready for the currently scheduled Feb. 17 changeover.

The Nielsen Co. estimates that more than 6.5 million U.S. households that rely on analog television sets to pick up over-the-air broadcast signals could see their TV sets go dark next month if the transition is not postponed.

"Delaying the upcoming DTV switch is the right thing to do," said Senate Commerce Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., author of the bill to push back the deadline. "I firmly believe that our nation is not yet ready to make this transition at this time."

The issue now goes to the House, where Commerce Committee Chairman Henry Waxman, D-Calif., has vowed to work with House leaders to bring Rockefeller\'s bill up for a floor vote on Tuesday.

President Barack Obama earlier this month called for the transition date to be postponed after the Commerce Department hit a $1.34 billion funding limit for government coupons that consumers may use to help pay for digital TV converter boxes. The boxes, which generally cost between $40 and $80 each and can be purchased without a coupon, translate digital signals back into analog ones for older TVs.

The National Telecommunications and Information Administration, the arm of the Commerce Department administering the program, is now sending out new coupons only as older, unredeemed ones expire and free up more money. The NTIA had nearly 2.6 million coupon requests on a waiting list as of last Wednesday.

Jonathan Collegio, vice president for the digital television transition for the National Association of Broadcasters, argues that the Nielsen numbers may overstate the number of viewers who are not ready for the digital transition. He noted that the numbers exclude consumers who have already purchased a converter box but not yet installed it, as well as those who have requested coupons but not yet received them.

What\'s more, consumers who subscribe to cable or satellite TV service or who own a TV with a digital tuner will not lose reception.

Still Gene Kimmelman, vice president for federal policy at Consumers Union, argues that millions of Americans - particularly low-income and elderly viewers - will pay the price because "the government has failed to deliver the converter boxes these people deserve just to keep watching free, over-the-air broadcast signals."

In 2005, Congress required broadcasters to switch from analog to digital signals, which are more efficient, to free up valuable chunks of wireless spectrum to be used for commercial wireless services and interoperable emergency-response networks.

Republicans in both the House and Senate have raised concerns that a delay would confuse consumers, burden wireless companies and public safety agencies waiting for the airwaves that will be vacated and create added costs for television stations that would have to continue broadcasting both analog and digital signals.

Paula Kerger, president and CEO of the Public Broadcasting Service, estimates that delaying the digital TV transition to June 12 would cost public broadcasters $22 million.

But Rockefeller managed to ease some of these concerns by allowing broadcast stations to make the switch from analog to digital signals sooner than the June deadline if they choose and by permitting public safety agencies to take over vacant spectrum that has been promised to them as soon as it becomes available.
Associated Press writer Andrew Taylor contributed to this report.
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2009, 08:38:34 AM »
*sigh*

How fucking hard is it to get a converter box?  Honestly, they\'re practically free.
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2009, 11:23:38 AM »
We must be talking about seriously poor people here. People who couldn\'t swing 40 bucks in the last year and a half or however long. They might be pushing it back so people get their tax refund or a stimulus check or something and if they don\'t use that, then they can go back to listening to the radio.
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2009, 11:55:09 AM »
I still see people buying the converter boxes every time I\'m in Best Buy.  Most of the problem is just people putting things off to the last second.  Just as it was put off till now it\'ll be put off till June all the same.

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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2009, 01:09:40 PM »
I agree with the above.   I don\'t think we need to help people maintain access to a nonessential service like broadcast television.  Maybe one could argue that television supports some public services like news reporting, emergency broadcasts, and election coverage, but for the most part it is an entertainment product.
 
I think this delay is mostly an effort to support the broadcast networks, which will be struck by a drop in viewers.  The cable and satellite networks should be unaffected.  Maybe they would even benefit, if some people elect to purchase cable service instead of the digital television converter box.
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2009, 03:30:48 PM »
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We must be talking about seriously poor people here. People who couldn\'t swing 40 bucks in the last year and a half or however long. They might be pushing it back so people get their tax refund or a stimulus check or something and if they don\'t use that, then they can go back to listening to the radio.


They get coupons too on top of it. I don\'t know off hand how much it gives a discount since I have cable and don\'t care how much it costs but as far as I know, it knocks out a good percentage of the cost.
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2009, 09:11:34 PM »
The reason they are delaying it is because the government ran out of coupons.  

And you can\'t really blame Obama on this one seeing as to how it was originally supposed to be shut off a couple years ago.

You have to be really poor and/or completely in the dark to need one of these things.
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2009, 09:56:42 PM »
Yeah... i\'m slightly peeved at this as well... can\'t really blame Obama for this as the vote in congress was UNANIMOUS.  I wish they would just flip the switch and be done with it... we\'ve known about it for fucking years.  Every other commercial break has something about it... been like that for the past 6 months.

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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2009, 10:40:51 AM »
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The reason they are delaying it is because the government ran out of coupons.  

And you can\'t really blame Obama on this one seeing as to how it was originally supposed to be shut off a couple years ago.

You have to be really poor and/or completely in the dark to need one of these things.


I would think that those people who can\'t afford the 40 dollars for the converter box can\'t even afford a tv....unless they go to Goodwill and buy a 1970s tv for 15 bucks.
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2009, 10:58:47 AM »
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I would think that those people who can\'t afford the 40 dollars for the converter box can\'t even afford a tv....unless they go to Goodwill and buy a 1970s tv for 15 bucks.


And pay $100 to deliver the 250 lb console TV to their home.

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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2009, 12:15:20 PM »
It really doesn\'t effect us at all that it hasn\'t happened yet.  It\'s not like we are itching to use that part of the spectrum personally.
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2009, 12:24:13 PM »
The delay was voted down anyway. The digital switch is still on.
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2009, 06:39:02 AM »
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It really doesn\'t effect us at all that it hasn\'t happened yet. It\'s not like we are itching to use that part of the spectrum personally.

Yep. The only thing that we stand to gain is another commercial in place of the go-digital ads.

This is about freeing up signals for the feds to communicate on, right?

So if we keep our antenna sets I can expect to intercept secure government communications instead of The Price is Right?
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2009, 07:17:36 AM »
yeah.  It just gives the feds more spectrum to lease out.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2009, 03:57:48 PM »
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I would think that those people who can\'t afford the 40 dollars for the converter box can\'t even afford a tv....unless they go to Goodwill and buy a 1970s tv for 15 bucks.


You can get free converters or $30 off everywhere now.

Furthermore.....

I do not see the big deal anyway. If you have a digital TV, you are watching digital most of the time anyway.

Or am I missing something?
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