Ryu, I only posted the sales because every now and then I see biozee posting sales of "increased PS3 sales in Japan!" or "PS3 outsells Wii!...this month...in Turkey". They mean nothing when Wii continually triples the sales of PS3. Who owns the big numbers? Wii. Second place? The DS, it kills too hard for it to be denied.
I don\'t care why the sales figures are posted. I hate the mentality behind it. You displayed it here pretty well --
Too bad they are ending. The times they are a changing. Sony just got confused with the PS3. They didn\'t know wtf Nintendo was doing and had nothing to copy. By the time they revealed motion controls, well, you got a shitty substitute and a ridiculously overpriced console.
Oh my GOD FORBID NINTENDO TRY TO SELL CONSOLES
Times are changing because sales are high, ok, I got you, but what does that mean to me, the guy who likes games? ooseven has a hard time formulating the basic question that I ask myself about the Wii --
Why am I not having fun?
If you go back a few generations, Nintendo was king with the SNES. Even people here who hate them now for the Wii can\'t deny that they certainly had their place in the world and all of us share a great deal of fondness for those old 8-bit and 16-bit games. They were fun. They were awesome. No one here denies that.
Some can levy that they felt the same about the N64 and others the Playstation. Sure, Playstation outsold the N64, and PS2 outsold everything else, but the problem we\'re facing - and I mean we as in the hardcore - is that there always seemed to be a symbiosis between sales and fun. If console X is selling Y units 20% higher then competition, Z, then N - the consumer - would have the most fun with console X. Some can disagree and state that they prefer specific types of exclusives, but the broad wide range of games that elicited the most fun always ended up on console X in the end. PS2, PS1, SNES, NES, Atari, etc.
What\'s different now is that most people, at least amongst the hardcore, are experiencing the most fun on consoles on competition Z while console X is selling Y units 50% higher. What does that mean going forward in terms of fun? Lots of people buy Wii Fit, lots of people buy Wii Play, and everyone is still playing Wii Sports, but can you honestly sit there and say, as a hardcore gamer, this is the direction you want gaming to go in? Are you saying you have more fun with Wii Fit then the games BizioEE listed?
The problem I have is that the Wii, when you get down to the basics of games on it, and the games I like, Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, both are games that could have been done on any console. Twilight Princess was even ported to the Gamecube. The bulk of action in Mario Galaxy is done, not with motion controls, but with an analog stick that has been on console controllers since the N64. Nintendo has even gone the route of porting old Gamecube games and rereleasing them on the Wii. They\'re good games, but this is the state we\'re in. This is what high sales and new controls have brought us.
Are you really happy with that? Is that really fun to you?
I know it\'s not fun to me.
When Nintendo themselves and other third parties start producing games on the same scale as their PS3 and 360 competition with gameplay that entertains me just as much, I\'ll shut my trap. They did it with the DS fairly quickly and I changed my stance on that from being a hater to a lover, but I\'m still waiting on the Wii. Until then, the dust layer will just get thicker and thicker.
Ah well, back to Henry Hatsworth.
