Prop 8 Upheld. California gays can\'t marry.

If marriage is a religious institution, then why would it not be ok for a Church that believes in gay marriage to marry two gay people?

There were also supposed to be provisions in the way our country was founded to avoid tyranny of the majority, so people\'s rights aren\'t taken away by the most bigoted members of our society based on little but irrational hatred and lack of understanding, or their own misguided feelings or superiority (looking at you Giga).  Nice to know you\'ll be passing that ignorant hate to subsequent generations.  You are truly the embodiment of what keeps our country from moving forward.

There were times when a majority of people in many states were in favor of slavery as well.  Didn\'t make it right.

So because I do not like gays or their lifestyle, I am misguided.  :rofl:  You are an ignorant little prick.  Once again, because one does not like them or their lifestyle they are a "bigot".  Typical liberal response.  The only tyranny I see comes from you and your fellow leftists on here - shouting down anyone who doesn\'t believe in your immoral philosophies and leanings.

Homophobe implies that I would be afraid of gays.  Quite to the contrary, I do not fear them, I just don\'t like them.  Therefore you are incorrect as is the term that is aimed at everyone who doesn\'t like them.

You fear them enough that you would make an effort to strip them the right to marry.  If you simply just "don\'t like them", you wouldn\'t make such a fuss about giving them the right to marry.  You\'re afraid that for some ungodly reason that their ability to marriage will somehow taint the sanctity of marriage, which is simply laughable.

We\'ll see who history shows to be the ignorant little prick.  It\'s amazing how much hate you can spew towards a life style you know so little about, then when someone does the same back, you have the same response.  I fully stand by what I said.  And how is it tyranny from the leftist side?  How is living their life as they want to tyranny?  What happened to live and let live?  That\'s the thing, they\'re not trying to do a thing to change your life.  You\'re trying to control yours with a set of morals that time will quickly prove to be a dying thing.  You should live to see that day.  I\'ll enjoy the look on your face.

You would have definitely been the person not too long ago who would have been saying "So because I do not like blacks or their lifestyle, I am misguided."

And yes, when you talk about a group of people using terms like queers in a derisive way and whinny faggots, I don\'t think it\'s even remotely out of line to call you a bigot...not to mention the things you\'ve said in the past.

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wait wait wait...you\'re telling me the southern racist hates gay people?

you gotta be shitting me...

I mentioned it earlier and no one bit....

What about agnostic and atheists that get married? No one is making a fuss over those people.

Ya know..the whole religious angle thing again....

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I mentioned it earlier and no one bit....

What about agnostic and atheists that get married? No one is making a fuss over those people.

Ya know..the whole religious angle thing again....

i actually started to write a post with that but i went off on a tangent and closed the box

And yes, when you talk about a group of people using terms like queers in a derisive way and whinny faggots, I don\'t think it\'s even remotely out of line to call you a bigot...not to mention the things you\'ve said in the past.

Kind of hard to be a bigot about something someone willfully chooses to be.  If you argue they are born that way then they are defective.

And yes, when you talk about a group of people using terms like queers in a derisive way and whinny faggots, I don\'t think it\'s even remotely out of line to call you a bigot...not to mention the things you\'ve said in the past.

Kind of hard to be a bigot about something someone willfully chooses to be.

I just have a hard time understanding why this is such a big deal.  I don\'t hate/fear/dislike homosexuals, I nothing them...  This is the problem with people in society, you give them an inch and they take a mile.  As long as we\'re all treated equally who cares what its called?

God could you harp on a more insignificant subject?  That may sound cold, but honestly, I have had it up to here with all the whining coming from the left.  You won your election and have complete control of America and your still not happy.

If you don\'t like how things are in this country, GTFO.

/rant

They do this all the time Kennedy.  They want everything their way or else.  BTW have you read about the Chrysler dealers that are being closed are almost all from GOP districts?  Obama\'s Task Force is apparantly dishing out some revenge...

B/c the only gays out there are liberal? You two are laughable.

I personally know 2 republican fags....

This is not a party issue no matter how much you want to turn it into one.


BTW..still no response about agnostics/atheists?

Your heads would probably explode if you found a gay atheist couple...lol

There is such a thing as a liberal Republican you dipshit.  AKA Republican In Name Only - RINO.  Just ask Arlen Specter.

First you insult...then you avoid what I asked.

OK, so some people don\'t want gays to get married because of religion. But most can agree they should have the same rights under a different name.
 
So, here\'s the answer that satisfies everyone, including separation of church and state believers:
 
The government can issue a marriage license right now for essentially tax and legal and census purposes. Extend that right to gays and then call every license the same thing. Since we think marriage is a religious thing, then we call it all "civil union". Everyone straight or gay gets a civil union license from the government and they can add to that any amount of religious ceremony that they want to. And then if that civil unioned couple wants to label themselves as married, so be it, that\'s between them and their gods and religious institutions. This would actually make "marriage" MORE of a sacred, religious institution than we pretend it is already.
 
Personally tho, I\'d be happy letting the gov. hand out "marriage" licenses like it does and extending that service to gay couples because the fact that the gov. has been doing that all along proves "marriage" isn\'t a religious-only institution. Our government isn\'t a church. But, if people want to make a thing about it, call it something else as long as it\'s the same for everyone.