Democrat screams at constituent for asking tough question on health care

Lies like how the government will have a death panel that kills undesirable senior citizens and locks Sarah Palin away in a dank basement where she will be fed through socially provided I.V. drips that will provide her just enough nourishment to survive long enough to be elected president in 2012.

My respect for Republican Senators Murkowski and Isakson just increased considerably.  I am relieved to learn that not all Republicans are self defeating lunatics.
 
Palin stands by \'death panel\' claim
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090813/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_end_of_life

Palin\'s posting came one day after Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska said that Palin and other critics were not helping the GOP by tossing out false claims. Portions of the Democratic health care bills "are bad enough that we don\'t need to be making things up," Murkowski said, invoking a phrase that Palin used in her resignation speech, when she asked the news media to "quit making things up."
 
Murkowski said she was offended at the death panel terminology. "There is no reason to gin up fear in the American public by saying things that are not included in the bill," she said.
 
Georgia Sen. Johnny Isakson, a Republican who co-sponsored a similar measure in the Senate, said it was "nuts" to claim the bill encourages euthanasia.
 
And Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore., who authored the provision on end-of-life counseling, said he is astounded that Palin has not tempered her bleak descriptions of the health care bill.
 
"It\'s deliberate at this point," Blumenauer said. "If she wasn\'t deliberately lying at the beginning, she is deliberately allowing a terrible falsehood to be spread with her name."
 
He said the measure would block funds for counseling that presents suicide or assisted suicide as an option, calling references to death panels or euthanasia "mind-numbing."

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The lies that the gov\'t is taking over healthcare....it\'s not....the public option is only going to be there as another possibly cheaper option.....and again nobody is forcing you to take it.

How am I not forced to take it if my perfectly good insurance is no longer provided to me by my employer who no longer feels the need to give me this benefit?

public option is designed to put private insurance out of buisness period end

The lies that the gov\'t is taking over healthcare....it\'s not....the public option is only going to be there as another possibly cheaper option.....and again nobody is forcing you to take it.

Option... no it\'s...

we\'ll tax you and you can have the government program.

or, we\'ll tax you and you can keep paying for your private insurance.

Where is the option? it\'s lose-lose.

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public option is designed to put private insurance out of buisness period end

So according to your logic walmart should have put k-mart and Target out of business....it hasn\'t.

.. no it\'s...

we\'ll tax you and you can have the government program.

or, we\'ll tax you and you can keep paying for your private insurance.

Where is the option? it\'s lose-lose.

People act like medicare and medicaid aren\'t gov\'t ran programs...they are...this public option will still have all of the major healthcare ins. companies aetna/bluecross, blueshield...etc, but if you like the perks that your employer is giving you, you won\'t have to change.

People act like medicare and medicaid aren\'t gov\'t ran programs...they are...this public option will still have all of the major healthcare ins. companies aetna/bluecross, blueshield...etc, but if you like the perks that your employer is giving you, you won\'t have to change.

You think medicare is successful?

Medicare faces continuing financial challenges. In its 2008 annual report to Congress, the Medicare Board of Trustees reported that the program\'s hospital insurance trust fund could run out of money by 2017. The trustees have made such projections in the past, but this one was bleaker than the outlook reported in 2007.

http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20090513-BIZ-905130331

And of course you\'ll have to change if your employer stops providing health insurance for you.  Where are you getting these wacky ideas from?

Really, this health care thing to me is something we should\'ve had all along. We\'re just catching up on this one. The fact that we have to shoehorn it into our corrupt (or at least outrageous) health care setup now is what\'s going to make it more expensive than it should be, but hopefully when so many people are being represented by the national plan, the gov\'t can throw some weight around to bring prices down overall.
 
Clips brought up WalMart and while I didn\'t agree with his metaphor before, you can see how an entity with huge national reach can be a real bully to its supplier\'s costs. The government will end up being such a vital health care customer that the industry will have to go out of its way to beat the competition\'s prices and keep the government\'s business, no?
 
Hell, your private insurance might end up being cheaper, too, since it\'ll be competing with the national plan and really, that\'s been the point all along. To make health care affordable to everyone, as it should be.
 
The only problem is people don\'t want to pay for it, and seeing the real costs of this thing is the only thing that should matter to people and to politicians.

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So according to your logic walmart should have put k-mart and Target out of business....it hasn\'t.

That\'s logic you just can\'t compete with.  lol

So you are saying I already pay for walmart and I can go there for free, but I need to wait my turn.  Or if I want, I can still pay for walmart and pay more money and go to Target?  Dude, I\'m fucking in!!!  That\'s awesome!!  I get to pay twice?

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People act like medicare and medicaid aren\'t gov\'t ran programs...they are...this public option will still have all of the major healthcare ins. companies aetna/bluecross, blueshield...etc, but if you like the perks that your employer is giving you, you won\'t have to change.

Can you please explain to me why my employer will pay money to give me Aetna if there is a public option that is already paid for in taxes?  

I have never heard a realistic argument on this.

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you watch, vid....if this gets through, people who have worked hard all their lives so that they make some decent scratch won\'t qualify for a fucking dime....

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hey clips, did you go to college? Did you have to pay full price?

Just wondering, not throwing stones here, man...

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Can you please explain to me why my employer will pay money to give me Aetna if there is a public option that is already paid for in taxes?  

I have never heard a realistic argument on this.

Some employers have already dropped their insurance plans because they can\'t afford it anymore and i don\'t mean small business employers,....your employer will eventually drop coverage if things continue to stay along this path anyway...something has to be done.

Nothing is perfect, but the public option will keep ins companies honest....i don\'t see how it\'s going to absolutely put every major private insurance company out of business....not unless it\'s offering it\'s services for super cheap...and that is not likely.

You think medicare is successful?

I never said it was successful...i mentioned that because folks act like the gov\'t isn\'t part of your everyday lives...Bush was too obsessed with the iraq war to get things done on healthcare and now we have somebody that sincerly wants to fix it and people think the gov\'t is taking over...don\'t be ridiculous.

People don\'t want the gov\'t to do anything for them, but when there\'s a catastrophy, they are the first folks that people come screaming to....people need to relax..gov\'t involvement doesn\'t always have to be a bad thing when it\'s attempting to get something done right. The fact that you posted how medicare will be bankrupt also proves that we have to do something about the crisis before it gets out of hand.

This whole situation is ugly because nobody gave a s**t about it when everybody was makin\' money...now that everything is against the wall Obama has some tough decisions to make. Is he going to have to raise taxes?..most likely,..but we can\'t keep sustaining this turbulent downfall.

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hey clips, did you go to college? Did you have to pay full price?

Just wondering, not throwing stones here, man...

I actually went to a technical school on a half scholarship thru a work program at my high school.

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how did you qualify for the scholarship?