man society is all messed up

BTW it is going to be awfully hard to tax illegals, drug dealers, and people that pay their employees under the table or partially under the table.

Eh, not with fairtax.  Do you know what it is?

Just popping in, but fairtax would be an abomination.

"random people on the interweb"

muhahaha

Eh, not with fairtax.  Do you know what it is?

Ok, was wrong about the others, what about the drug dealers?

By that argument, you could say the same thing about Universal Health Care.

Things take time - any time you have opposition its going drag reform down.

We are not talking about that though are we.

For all of that I may as well bring the possibility of us all growing  7 fingers one day.....

Bill Gates never broke the law.  And yes, while most of his products were ripoffs of other software, he somehow got his to sell while they couldn\'t.  I wouldn\'t call him unethical, I\'d call him unoriginal, but with a great business plan.

Oh BTW, what OS are you using?  Windows, if so, thank Bill Gates.  Mac OS, that itself is a ripoff Xerox OS.  Linux, built to mimic Windows and Mac at no cost to the consumer.

I really don\'t see what the problem is hear.

It was never proven that he broke any laws.

Remember, the best crooks are the ones that don\'t get caught.

"random people on the interweb"

muhahaha

Isn\'t that what we all are?  I exist in real life too.  Sometimes, I even vote!

luckee... that\'s the beauty of fairtax, it taxes on consumption, not production

So whenever you buy something that\'s when you are taxed

Even better, we can put a going out of business sign on the IRS and start balancing the budget.  As it stands right now, roughly 500 billion is spent by US corporations on tax compliance.  With fairtax they can use that money to create jobs and pay employees.

Ok, was wrong about the others, what about the drug dealers?

yes, everyone

watch the video

This is the first time I looked through info on the Fair Tax. I like it. The only thing is how mentally shocking it\'ll be to have 23% federal and whatever % state sales tax ring up at the register. I think that number might affect the consumer mentality more than this FairTax.org seems to think...

yes, everyone

watch the video

Or you could just explain it since you seem to know about it.

It\'s been fairly well explained already, but in its simplest terms it\'s like this...

Our current system taxes you on production, i.e. the more you work the more you are taxed.  As you move up and make more money, so too does your tax bracket, and so more money comes out.  It\'s the robin hood of tax systems, because that money is often sent to the lower classes.  Not that it\'s entirely bad thing, but it\'s a terrible concept to tax people on production.

Fairtax on the other hand taxes you on consumption.  So, when you get a $50,000 a year job you make the full $50,000 not the 30-35k (if your lucky) that our current system has you making.  And this time lists prices would be inclusive of taxes.  So when you buy something for $100 (it\'s 77+23 for fairtax).  So the more you spend, the more your taxed.  Which is really the way it should be.  It might even encourage people to save money and invest!

So you don\'t  see how this can become a problem as well?

Doing some googling (sp?) I see quite a few people talking about this flat 23% rate.

With our government, who is to say if it wont reach 50%?

50 is reaching...I know...but any higher number will do.

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hey guise whats going on?

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I\'ve heard of this flat tax rate...and i agree it does sound great, but i too agree with luckee that it\'ll probably end up being abused.

One thing i\'d like to comment on tho is that chart about the corporate tax,... imo they should keep it. Look at what happened during the bush years when that tax wasn\'t that high or applied at all to keep businesses in the u.s.,...jobs were still shipped overseas and these so-called intelligent u.s. businessmen still outsourced our manufacturing and other high tech IT jobs...look at just about anything in your home..it\'s either made in china or india or some other 4th world country. Nothing is made here anymore.

I say all that to say that the problem with america is that during that big boom of the 90\'s, alot of america has been sold to other countries just so the said businessman or women can get a quick cashout, and now you have a dilema where even college grads can\'t even find work along with experienced adults who are lining up at the unemployment office.

It all comes down to jobs...these idiots in big business don\'t understand that the more you outsource to other countries just so you can save and line their pockets with money, that is more americans without a job not being able to buy your product....all they care about is a quick cash out and they don\'t give a s**t about anybody else.

So all this talk of taxing structure and the healthcare argument at the moment is moot if there are no jobs for american citizens to pay for these projects...less people working means less money and taxes for the overall system. China and other upcoming 3rd world countries have the u.s. in a chokehold.

How can you abuse fairtax in a way you can\'t abuse our current system?