Xbox at Xlaunch

Shawn: Reviews help there.  No ports are ever equal.

DDaryl:  500 dev kits is a pretty major investment (around five million).  That is not the actions of a company planning on making ports.


Edit:  I am sorry about the pro Xbox posts.  I will stop tonight... its all just very exciting.

[Edited by ho3j on 12-13-2000 at 12:49 AM]

Originally posted by ho3j
Shawn: Reviews help there.  No ports are ever equal.

DDaryl:  500 dev kits is a pretty major investment (around five million).  That is not the actions of a company planning on making ports.


Edit:  I am sorry about the pro Xbox posts.  I will stop tonight... its all just very exciting.

[Edited by ho3j on 12-13-2000 at 12:49 AM]

ANd EA probably has at least that many PS2 dev kits as well.

Sorry, but by the time Xbox release next year SOny will have close to or more than 12 million consoles in the marekt and a price drop for Christmas and a ton of killer apps to help sell the system. EA supports all succesful platforms, they supported Nintendo and SOny last round and will support Xbox, GC and the PS2 as well.

You guys read to much into this stuff get all bent out of shape and get all weird with your posts,

relax already

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Yikes, talk about freaking out. Some of you who hate MS are going to buy one cause of EA? I mean, I think the Xbox will rule, but come on. Your expecting a bit much of EA. They\'re supporting the GC also. So, is it that big of a deal? No. I mean, yeah, some of you didn\'t expect this. But, I think most of us did. They will do what they do each generation. Port over the franchises.

:rolleyes:

Look, EA has developed for the N64. They have always, always developed for mulitiple platforms. Even Madden 2001 has a version on the N64. Good one at that from what I have heard. Didn\'t make the PS2 version any worse. Also, while Sony doesn\'t have many exclusives like Nintendo or Sega, they have some impressive ones coming down the pipe. Gran Turismo anyone? Lets not forget, Wipeout, Getaway, Extermination, whatever Naughty Dog has ups it sleve (exclusive here), and though not up to the standards of other companies right now (not to mention, they only just started having making these recently...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...), Sony\'s own RPGs. So, while a X-Box might be in my future, its not changing my PS2 purchase plans anytime soon.

Here is the problem with that logic. The Xbox is starting the same as Sony. No franchises. Its not a PS2 hand me down or what not though. Really though, the Xbox is set to do what Sony did 5 years ago. Its not a mistake to buy one. Wait and see? Thats smart. Rush and buy one? Premature, but I\'ll do it, because I believe MS has a hit console on their hands.

The point made is that the X-Box is NOT in the same position Sony was 5 years ago simply because the competition is greater.  If Sony released a system based on cartridges, a target audience of 8 year olds, a delayed launch until 2002 and the Dreamcast was 600 dollars, then maybe, just MAYBE the X-Box would be in the same position as Sony 5 years ago.  Until I see that happening, the X-Box is in for the fight of the millenium (at least the first 5 years anyways).

Also, I must agree, you people are too easily swayed by developers just announcing their support of a console.  Capcom said they would support the DC, the PS2, AND the X-Box, yet no one is burning bridges about their purchases because of them and they EASILY have franchises equal to or greater than what EA has ever done.  Yet, now that EA is supporting all platforms (cept say sega), you all got your panties in a wad.  Explain the logic here, madden 2002 on X-Box, Gamecube, and PS2 and the reasoning behind buying an X-Box is because of madden 2002... ummm... wtf?!  If all consoles feature the same game, what makes the game that much more worth the purchase of a console?  NOTHING!  However, since EA does not support Sega, what makes Sega worth buying?  Simple question... Visual Concepts, which I think makes games that EASILY rivals the quality of the Madden or other sports series.  Sure, Dreamcast isn\'t the powerhouse the PS2 is, but NFL2K1 was and is equally just as good, if not better, thanks to online play and GREAT gameplay.

You people have to consider many more things before wasting that hard earned cash ona  specific piece of hardware.  Don\' ask yourself WHY you want a console, but ask yourself why you DON\'T want a different one.  If you\'re gonna buy em all (like myself), more power to you, but to ultimately, A FULL YEAR EARLY, make a decision that will cast away roughly 250+ dollars without fully knowing about the product is absolutely ludicrous, dumb, idiotic... there aren\'t enough words to describe it right now.  Sure, that may be just my opinion concerning your hard earned cash, but at least the opinion I spew about what you buy is educated enough to tell you to consider all options before forking over that final payment.

I will also be getting one along with a GC. Trust me, I\'\'ll have the money.

point made is that the X-Box is NOT in the same position Sony was 5 years ago simply because the competition is greater. If Sony released a system based on cartridges, a target audience of 8 year olds, a delayed launch until 2002 and the Dreamcast was 600 dollars, then maybe, just MAYBE the X-Box would be in the same position as Sony 5 years ago.  Until I see that happening, the X-Box is in for the fight of the millenium (at least the first 5 years anyways).

Ryu, your wealth of intelligence astounds me.  THANK YOU!  Microsoft is NOT Sony 5 years ago.  Sony competed with two bumbling idiots.

As far as exclusive titles - somebody mentioned Oddworld and Halo.  Please, tell me the sales numbers for the PSX version of the Oddworld titles.  Oh yes: "Not" and "that many".  It\'s a beautiful title, and I can\'t wait to play it... but I\'m talking casuals here.  They don\'t know diddly about it.  It\'s fine for US to wait - but casual gamers WILL NOT.  They know nothing of XBox.  They know nothing of Oddworld and Halo.  In 8 months, I\'m sure the XBox will have some impressive exclusives - but casuals won\'t hear about those until the thing launches.

Don\'t predict victory based off of a bunch of hardcores in a forum.  Or based off of power.  If games mattered, the Dreamcast would be at 8 million users by now.  If power mattered, the Gameboy would\'ve died long ago - same with PSX.  Do NOT predict victory because you can NOT predict the casuals.  Microsoft dominate?  Unlike Sony last gen, Microsoft actually has some heavy competition - and the idiots are giving the competition a headstart!

The true battle is actually between X-Box and GC, the other is between PS2 and DC.  Otherwise, the crossroads haven\'t met yet.

You guys are right. I am still VERY VERY anti Microsoft (I don\'t like being like a braindead consumer) All the Xbox has is a few Ps2 hand me downs, and a few other games from companies that MS bought... EA will develop for Gamecube also, and I am hearing rumors that they will port SSX to Dreamcast, Xbox, and Gamecube. EA will fully support Gamecube to. But it is clear that their main focus is Ps2. Sony knows how to deal with these companies. I\'ll get a Xbox if it doesn\'t have lots of Ps2 games I ALREADY HAVE. WHO CARES ABOUT SHARPER IMAGE, ECT. EA hasn\'t even announced any titles.

Originally posted by ddaryl

Originally posted by animal_mother1
It looks like I\'ll get an Xbox. It\'s not looking to good for PS2. EA is going 3 ways. Xbox, Gamecube and Ps2. It is clear that EA will shift their exclusive focus to Xbox. Ps2 will probably come in 2nd this console war. I am wating for Xlaunch! (I\'m so corny)

Why is it clear EA will shift its focuus to Xbox. ?????


Boy talk about paranoid delusions, EA has alot in development for the PS2 over the next 2 years  [/B]

That\'s a good question ddaryl.  I also wouldn\'t jump to that conclusion.  However, you have to look at the facts.  1. EA is a member of the Xbox Advisory Board (XAB)...that means they helped design the console.  2. EA has ordered 500 XDK\'s and are devoting 200 developers to work on the Xbox.  3.  They will provide 10 games for the Xbox launch...that\'s from day one!  The XDK\'s EA are ordering are $10,000 a piece.  That\'s $50 million that EA is devoting to the Xbox launch.  I\'m not one to speculate, my friend, but if this isn\'t a shift of focus, I don\'t know what the hell is.  You have to admit that Sony hurt EA with it\'s botched PS2 launch.  Now EA is seriously bleeding cash from this.  I don\'t want to start anything, but who do you believe EA is supporting more from the above facts?

I think that you need to re-think this stuff, I was once like you. PS2 still is going strong, their have tons of more parties than X-box and it might join up with time-warner and AOL. I\'m not saying Sony will win or X-box will win, I\'m saying they still have more time to say either will rule.

Allow me to quote South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut:

(Saddam Hussein voice) RELAX GUY! (/Saddam Hussein voice)

I\'ll reserve my final thoughs (damn, I sound like Jerry Springer now) on both GC and Xbox untill there a couple of months away - or perhaps even better yet - after they launch. If they\'re good, then I\'ll buy them. I don\'t care how - I just know I\'ll get the money.

That\'s a good question ddaryl. I also wouldn\'t jump to that conclusion. However, you have to look at the facts. 1. EA is a member of the Xbox Advisory Board (XAB)...that means they helped design the console. 2. EA has ordered 500 XDK\'s and are devoting 200 developers to work on the Xbox. 3. They will provide 10 games for the Xbox launch...that\'s from day one! The XDK\'s EA are ordering are $10,000 a piece. That\'s $50 million that EA is devoting to the Xbox launch. I\'m not one to speculate, my friend, but if this isn\'t a shift of focus, I don\'t know what the hell is. You have to admit that Sony hurt EA with it\'s botched PS2 launch. Now EA is seriously bleeding cash from this. I don\'t want to start anything, but who do you believe EA is supporting more from the above facts?

Um... Your logic is a bit flawed here. Let me see... EA uses $50 million on dev. kits. Then they develop 10 games for DAY ONE? Where are the money in that? What, you magicly expect Xbox to sell 50 million units @ launch? If not then EA will have a helluva hard time getting 10 games to sell well... I think I\'ll just wait and see how everything goes before declaring any winners/loosers in this \'game\'. I suggest ya\'ll do that too.

You know Sam, you really need to think before you post.  Because I wasn\'t declaring any winners, my friend.  There you go again jumping to goddam conclusions.  Read my post again...I was trying to convince Ddaryl that EA is serious about developing for Xbox because they spent $5 million dollars (I made a mistake when I put $50 million--10,000 X 500, duh!) on XDK\'s.  Even you have to agree that spending that much money on 500 XDK\'s, EA means business.  Did I say who was going to win or lose?  Ddaryl insinuated that EA wasn\'t serious about Xbox development, and I disagreed with that.  I didn\'t mention **** about PS2\'s success.  By your insisting that I did shows that you\'re worried about the overrated DVD player\'s success.

Now that I think about it, don\'t even bother re-reading my post because you aren\'t going to find anything to bitch about this time!

It is a planned 10 titles in the 6 month launch window.

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