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« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2000, 07:20:28 PM »
Nintendo??

I guess you still like pokemon eh ddaryl? :D
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« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2000, 01:28:16 AM »
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Even though Final Fantasy X will also be on X-Box, Square\'s main focus will be on the PS2...


huh?!?! where did you get this rumour from?

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« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2000, 05:20:52 AM »
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People though MS wouldn\'t rule the OS market.


Um, no.  I\'m not sure what you\'re referring to here...  Microsoft was the only OS in town.  Gates bought a OS and renamed it MS DOS for IBM.  His family had connections and gave him the shot with IBM (he was like 18 or 19 at the time).  IBM offered, really, the biggest home/office PC at the time.  Microsoft\'s exposure was huge.  Then Gates went to work with Apple; saw the MacIntosh\'s environment.  Warned Apple that they should license it, but Steve Jobs was more concerned about the hardware.  Bing bang boom, Windows is invented.  Next thing you know, every home PC has windows.  Then IBM develops OS2 and tries to run Microsoft out of bidness.  By the time, Windows had a strong foothold.  Another bing, another bang, another boom - OS2 "goes away".  

Nobody ever thought MS wouldn\'t rule the OS market.  Microsoft has BEEN the OS market since the beginning.  Microsoft was the FIRST in the OS market; before that it was just a bunch of hobbyists sharing software.  Microsoft was the first to license and charge for it.  They\'ve ALWAYS owned the OS market - nobody\'s ever competed with them (\'cept OS2 and Linux, but they were too late).  Imagine Nintendo releasing the first ever videogame console, and then other companies trying to compete with them 8 generations later.  That\'s Microsoft in the OS market.  This is different.  They are the ones coming in like OS2 or Linux.  Fortunately, there is no "dictator" game console, so it\'s still a legitimate competition.  Plus the mercenary developers are a wildcard.  But no, they won\'t dominate like they did with OS - they dominated because they were alone, and the first.  And no, they won\'t dominate like the PSX did - it dominated because it\'s competition made costly mistakes.  Nor will Microsoft fail.

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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2000, 06:47:47 AM »
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Um, no. I\'m not sure what you\'re referring to here... Microsoft was the only OS in town. Gates bought a OS and renamed it MS DOS for IBM. His family had connections and gave him the shot with IBM (he was like 18 or 19 at the time). IBM offered, really, the biggest home/office PC at the time. Microsoft\'s exposure was huge. Then Gates went to work with Apple; saw the MacIntosh\'s environment. Warned Apple that they should license it, but Steve Jobs was more concerned about the hardware. Bing bang boom, Windows is invented. Next thing you know, every home PC has windows. Then IBM develops OS2 and tries to run Microsoft out of bidness. By the time, Windows had a strong foothold. Another bing, another bang, another boom - OS2 "goes away".

Nobody ever thought MS wouldn\'t rule the OS market. Microsoft has BEEN the OS market since the beginning. Microsoft was the FIRST in the OS market; before that it was just a bunch of hobbyists sharing software. Microsoft was the first to license and charge for it. They\'ve ALWAYS owned the OS market - nobody\'s ever competed with them (\'cept OS2 and Linux, but they were too late). Imagine Nintendo releasing the first ever videogame console, and then other companies trying to compete with them 8 generations later. That\'s Microsoft in the OS market. This is different. They are the ones coming in like OS2 or Linux. Fortunately, there is no "dictator" game console, so it\'s still a legitimate competition. Plus the mercenary developers are a wildcard. But no, they won\'t dominate like they did with OS - they dominated because they were alone, and the first. And no, they won\'t dominate like the PSX did - it dominated because it\'s competition made costly mistakes. Nor will Microsoft fail.


Microsoft wasn\'t in the OS business at the very beginnig.  Bill Gates and Paul Allen wrote the first personal computer language (BASIC) on the Altair.  It wasn\'t until IBM decided to enter the market in 1980 with the Acorn that MS became involved.  IBM intitially offered it to MS but MS told them that they were primarily a language driven company so they directed them to Gary Kindall, the developer of QDOS.  Gary (or whomever was at the office that day) turned IBM away without realizing who it was when the suits arrived.  Gary Kindall lost the opportunity of a life time.  IBM went back to MS, and Bill and Paul weren\'t going to drop the ball like Gary did so they went and bought the rights to QDOS from SCP for $50,000, renamed it MS-DOS and sold it to IBM.

It was IBM\'s open architecture design of their machine and the reverse engineering of Compaq in \'84 that lead to the advent of the clone and the rise of Microsoft.  Companies bought huge numbers of PCs because of IBM\'s name alone and now people where able to buy the same computers that they used at the office without having to pay IBM\'s outlandish prices.

I\'m not sure why you think that the Mac OS wasn\'t copywrited but it was, and Apple didn\'t invent the GUI anymore than MS did.  Also, Microsoft wrote and sold OS2 to IBM.



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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2000, 04:08:25 PM »
Sony remembers that million dollar Final Fantasy movie too.
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« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2000, 10:12:21 PM »
What\'s good about MS buying a few small developers to gain some exclusive titles? Nothing!

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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2000, 05:28:21 AM »
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Even though Final Fantasy X will also be on X-Box, Square\'s main focus will be on the PS2...


I thought FFXI was also coming to X-box but FFX was PS2-exclusive.

Was it that way or was it not?

It\'s still too early to say wich will win the console war; we just try to think about it with "logic". But we\'re not fore-see\'ers are we?

Strong bets are on Sony and MS ( and yes MS has fans.. but in PC-side. But many PC-gamers will probaply buy X-box over Sony... ), but they\'re only "bets".

Heh, I know you know all this; but take this as a reminder.

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