66 million polygons per second

Originally posted by ReverendXbox

Originally posted by Paul
Actually it still baffles me, with all the new heavy duty Nvidia cards which supposely can do 20 million poly/sec(which they\'ve claimed equal or beats a PS2), there\'s hardly a real PC game that reach 3 to 4 million poly/sec. All they ever do is pump up the resoultion(which hardly make any difference whne it reaches 1026 x768) or the fps( again, minimal differences after hitting 60 fps).

I wonder how many years it needs to take for the PC to show REAL games that reach GT3 level of graphic quality..

If u consider all that, the PS2 is quite a steal for what it is.

Yeah, I\'ve also wondered that myself Paul.  However, if all PC\'s were the same spec, I would expect them to be pushing well over 3-4 million pps.  The reality is that PC developers have to program to the lowest common denominator (i.e. me with my Celeron and Intel AGP Graphics).  Everyone who buys a PC game isn\'t going to have the latest Nvidia graphics chip.  However, Paul,  wouldn\'t it be cool if all PC\'s were the same spec?  If that were the case, then a game could be built that pushes well over 10 million polygons-per-second for all machines.  

Wouldn\'t it be cool if there was a PC with a really, really high-end graphics processor that was built specifically for games?  It would be a mass market product and cost under $300 since it doesn\'t have all that extra PC overhead.  That would rock!  Hell, why stop there!  You could get rid of the monitor (albiet you can use one) and hook it up to your TV.  Even better, you can add DVD playback, controllers, and all the killer-app console titles you want.  Basically this would be a PC-Console hybrid which equals the ultimate game machine, the best of both worlds.  That\'s a cool idea!  Dude, I should sell that idea to a company.  Perhaps Microsoft would like my idea?  Naaaa!  I doubt it.   [/B]

Funny, but seriously... I will be suprised if it lagitemately retails for $300 at launch.  Oh yeah, they should have kept the moniter too. But I am not in the mood to debate anyone today... maybe tommorow

Well Pan, I\'m operating on the premise that Microsoft are not STUPID.  They know that launching the Xbox for more than $300 is corporate suicide.  Therefore I have nary a doubt that the \'box will retail for no more than $300.  They\'re business people, they know the console business model.

:rolleyes: man

The reality is that PC developers have to program to the lowest common denominator (i.e. me with my Celeron and Intel AGP Graphics). Everyone who buys a PC game isn\'t going to have the latest Nvidia graphics chip.

Question.. answered.  If they developed for the high end PC\'s, you\'d have to upgrade twice a damn year.  As far as Microsoft, I\'d be amazed if they went over $300 as well.  The last consoles to do that: Neo Geo, Saturn, 3DO.  If I\'m not stupid enough to do that, then I seriously doubt a highly competitive guy like Gates is.  Remember, this is a guy who gave away his browser to hurt Netscape.  Do you honestly think he\'ll try to enter the console market with a $350+ machine?   No.  I can see him selling it for $20 and taking a huge loss just to take over the marketplace before I can see him charging $350 or more.

Originally posted by ReverendXbox
Well Pan, I\'m operating on the premise that Microsoft are not STUPID.  They know that launching the Xbox for more than $300 is corporate suicide.  Therefore I have nary a doubt that the \'box will retail for no more than $300.  They\'re business people, they know the console business model.

I just said I would be suprised, I didn\'t say it wouldn\'t happen.  Probably it will be $300 if you sign up for MSN or something to that effect.