Rumors are flying that Nintendo and Sega are joining

I doubt it will happen, but what if...  Well, I honestly think if those two joined forces, that Sony would have the slimmest chance at being number one (same goes for XBox).

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Originally posted by ElAsesino
I doubt it will happen, but what if...  Well, I honestly think if those two joined forces, that Sony would have the slimmest chance at being number one (same goes for XBox).

 

I doubt that will happen.. But i donno how well they would do. I mean. Sony and MS still have alot of money. They will still have alot of developer support and probley fan support.

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Originally posted by ElAsesino
I doubt it will happen, but what if...  Well, I honestly think if those two joined forces, that Sony would have the slimmest chance at being number one (same goes for XBox).

 

I doubt that will happen.. But i donno how well they would do. I mean. Sony and MS still have alot of money. They will still have alot of developer support and probley fan support.  [/B]

  GameCube is gathering the big name 3rd party developers.  GC really doesn\'t need a whole bunch of small 3rd parties, because after all, aren\'t they the ones who put all the utter crap out on the PSX????
  Yep, Sony and MS have a lot of money, but their killer apps would pale in comparison to all the killer apps that would appear on Nintendo and Sega\'s console.  Just think, Nintendo already has the "below 18" demographic easily, and then most of Sega\'s games are for teens or higher.  So, since GC is gathering developers, and hopefully Sega puts out maturer games, then the developers won\'t be afraid to put out mature games.  Then, from there that would pretty much be all she wrote.
   

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I donno dood. But sony and MS have more money then sega and nintendo put together. Developers are after money. Thats why there are soo many on MS. They see A LOT of money coming from the system, Same as ps2. Knowning Nintendo if they brought out sega. They would probley snob of a lot of developers that go with it. Nintendo isn\'t well known for keeping developers. Sega isn\'t well known for having money. So i believe it would be still a fight for them. IMO.

I think sega should just became a ARCADE and 3rd partie developer.. That would be really kewl if they did. IMO

Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
I donno dood. But sony and MS have more money then sega and nintendo put together. Developers are after money. Thats why there are soo many on MS. They see A LOT of money coming from the system, Same as ps2. Knowning Nintendo if they brought out sega. They would probley snob of a lot of developers that go with it. Nintendo isn\'t well known for keeping developers. Sega isn\'t well known for having money. So i believe it would be still a fight for them. IMO.

I think sega should just became a ARCADE and 3rd partie developer.. That would be really kewl if they did. IMO

  It doesn\'t matter whether they have more money than Sega and Nintendo.  It\'s true that developers are after money, but they can\'t make money unless the console they develop for has a large userbase.  Also, with Sega onboard it will attract the "over 18" demographic to GameCube, and make the developers who make mature games develop for GC.  If this happens, then that will mean Sony and MS will have lost their edge over Nintendo as far as demographics.
   No, Nintendo is all about quality.  I guarantee that Nintendo would keep every developer that makes good games that works for Sega.  I would also guarantee that they would get rid of the ones who don\'t know what they are doing (which I doubt there are any of those type of people).
   

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Originally posted by ElAsesino


  It doesn\'t matter whether they have more money than Sega and Nintendo.  It\'s true that developers are after money, but they can\'t make money unless the console they develop for has a large userbase.  

And PS2 and Xbox will probley have the biggest userbase out of all the consoles.. Well maybe more nintendo and sony.

Also, with Sega onboard it will attract the "over 18" demographic to GameCube, and make the developers who make mature games develop for GC.  If this happens, then that will mean Sony and MS will have lost their edge over Nintendo as far as demographics.

How so.. Do u think developers will LEAVE sony and MS.. It Wouldn\'t happen. They would contunie too develope for there system. There is A LOT of money in them. They would be stupid not too.

   No, Nintendo is all about quality.  I guarantee that Nintendo would keep every developer that makes good games that works for Sega.  

If nintendo was about Quality.. What happen too N64?... Ohhh right.. pokemon is great quality...... For a 7 year old.

I would also guarantee that they would get rid of the ones who don\'t know what they are doing (which I doubt there are any of those type of people).

are u talking Developers? because i\'m sure if non of them didn\'t know what there doing. They wouldn\'t be developering.

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Even on the *slight* chance the two became one, it would not affect other third party developers. Sony and maybe MS would still have massive third party development.

And it would be Nintendo hardware with Sega games. All this would do is create one big fanbase for Nintendo hardware. The Sega fans would be using Nintendo hardware. It really wouldn\'t affect Sony and MS.

More and likely though, Sega will develop for the GBA. They have stated interest in that.

More and likely though, Sega will develop for the GBA. They have stated interest in that.

Yeah.

IGNHandheld had an article a while ago saying Sega would make a Sonic game for GBC.They said in was not im competition with DC so it wouldn\'t affect it.But GBA does seem more likeable to happen...

SoulGrind, that N64 remark was very childish. Selling 28 million systems basically on your own is a feat matched by no one else. No other complany can be totally self dependent as Nintendo can.

And BTW, there are probably many more kiddy games on PSX than on N64. There are only two Pokemon games on N64, and they are, if you can get past some of the obvius kiddy value of it, very fun games.

TeleTubbies? PSX. Barbie Racer? PSX. Mary Kate and Ashley Adventures? PSX.

The N64 has many kids games, but PSX has just as many or more.

Eric Jacob

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Originally posted by Jumpman

More and likely though, Sega will develop for the GBA. They have stated interest in that.

Yeah.

IGNHandheld had an article a while ago saying Sega would make a Sonic game for GBC.They said in was not im competition with DC so it wouldn\'t affect it.But GBA does seem more likeable to happen...
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I don\'t see Sega killing their own console, by developing for Nintendo. But, they could develop for the GBA , and like IGN said, it wouldn\'t be in competition with the DC or a future console, and they could still make money "on the side".

And that could explain the talks bewteen Nintendo and Sega.
It wouldn\'t suprise me , if they developed for the GBA. Just another rason to own the beyond-awesome handheld.
*had to say that--it has a 2D CASTLEVANIA game*

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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
SoulGrind, that N64 remark was very childish. Selling 28 million systems basically on your own is a feat matched by no one else. No other complany can be totally self dependent as Nintendo can.

And BTW, there are probably many more kiddy games on PSX than on N64. There are only two Pokemon games on N64, and they are, if you can get past some of the obvius kiddy value of it, very fun games.

TeleTubbies? PSX. Barbie Racer? PSX. Mary Kate and Ashley Adventures? PSX.

The N64 has many kids games, but PSX has just as many or more.

Eric Jacob

Yep.. Maybe psx does..But it ALSO has WAYYYY more Mature games... 2 pokemon games..  Man i think it has abit more then that..
Pokemon Puzzle League  
Pokemon Snap  
Pokemon Stadium
Pokemon Stadium 2
Pokemon Stadium GS

How about some mario games
Mario Artist: Paint Studio
Mario Artist: Talent Studio
Mario Golf  
Mario Kart 64  
Mario Party  
Mario Party 2  
Mario Tennis 64  
Mario 64

Maybe u should research stuff like this.. Nintendo are KNOWN too have mostly developers making under 8-10 age games. I\'m not saying Nintendo are doing it now..
But there well known for it.. N64 did sell well. I\'m not saying it didn\'t.

All i\'m saying is. That if Sega and Nintendo did come together. They won\'t distroy ps2 or Xbox. There 2 1st parties joining. 3rd partie developers would still stick with Xbox and PS2.. .Why wouldn\'t they. There consoles are the MOST likely too win this console war. Developers know this.

There consoles are the MOST likely too win this console war. Developers know this.
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You know §ôµÏG®ïñD that is one of the most closed minded things I have ever heard you say.  Where is your "proof" that developers know this?  I mean, I have talked with a lot of developers and they are really excited about all the machines.  Even though they had more harsh comments about the PS2 then any other machine, they were still excited for it.  And developers are excited about the Xbox and the GCN.  Developers know that they are going to have awesome machines this time around.  This time around, imagination will be the limit for them.  I have seen what is capable from the next generation machines in a few years\' graphics wise, and I am very excited about it.  I am very disappointed in this kind of talk coming from you.

And what\'s up with your Mario list?

• Mario Golf
• Mario Kart 64
• Mario Party
• Mario Party 2
• Mario Tennis 64
• Mario 64

What are you trying to say with this list, that these games are just focused around the younger generation?  That you can only truly enjoy games like this if you are between the ages of 8 - 14.  Oh, you also forgot Super Smash Brothers.  Since that also has the childish characters that Nintendo makes, must be another one of those games that are focused on the younger generation.

Come on §ôµÏG®ïñD those games you listed are awesome games that anybody can pick up and enjoy.  Mario Golf is one of the most fun golf games I have ever played.  I won\'t even talk about Mario Kart 64, I have had this game since it\'s been out.  I have stayed up 3 days straight playing it with my buddies and we are all over the focused Nintendo age limit.

After reading this topic §ôµÏG®ïñD, you makes it sound like if we don\'t buy MS or Sony we are going to be wasting our money because the other ones won\'t be around much longer.  And those 3rd party developers won\'t even support the other machines.  That they will only go for PS2 or the xbox because they are a "sure thing".  (Even though in business, nothing is ever a sure thing)  If developers are in it just for the money, why don\'t they just port all of their games onto all systems?  That way they will get the most out of their games.  That makes sense to me.

Nintendo did just fine by themselves, just wait to see what happens when they start to get the back up of 3rd party support.  I\'m not saying that Sony is going to sit in a corner and cry, nor is MS.  They will all have awesome machines with awesome games.  Don\'t count any of them out.  And please stop with the "kiddie" comments.  They are getting very old and very repetitive.  

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Originally posted by 8-P


You know §ôµÏG®ïñD that is one of the most closed minded things I have ever heard you say.  Where is your "proof" that developers know this?  I mean, I have talked with a lot of developers and they are really excited about all the machines.  

I bet i\'ve talked with more dood.. The reason i said it was.. Because LOOK AT THE developer support. There are MORE developers on XBOX and PS2 FACT. They see the CONSOLES will or do have the MOST userbase. They see the MOST money coming from the consoles. Like it or not. Thats why they develope for systems.. FOR MONEY

Even though they had more harsh comments about the PS2 then any other machine, they were still excited for it.  

All consoles have there ups and downs. I don\'t expect developers too completely love ps2. Or any other console.

And developers are excited about the Xbox and the GCN.  Developers know that they are going to have awesome machines this time around.  This time around, imagination will be the limit for them.

I totally agree man. I don\'t doubt this for a second.. I just BELEIVE, IMO. That Xbox and ps2 will end up leading this console war. This is MY belief.

I have seen what is capable from the next generation machines in a few years\' graphics wise, and I am very excited about it.

So have i.

I am very disappointed in this kind of talk coming from you.

I can\'t please everyone man. I know all the consoles are GREAT.. I know they all will have unreal games. I\'m just saying the REASON why developers will mostly be on PS2 and Xbox is because they SEE money coming from them. I\'m not a bias gamer. I have a DC. I\'ll get a ps2. And oneday maybe a xbox. But that doesn\'t mean i\'m blind too the way developers think.. Its where the support is.. Support = MONEY.

And what\'s up with your Mario list?

• Mario Golf
• Mario Kart 64
• Mario Party
• Mario Party 2
• Mario Tennis 64
• Mario 64

What are you trying to say with this list, that these games are just focused around the younger generation?  That you can only truly enjoy games like this if you are between the ages of 8 - 14.  Oh, you also forgot Super Smash Brothers.  Since that also has the childish characters that Nintendo makes, must be another one of those games that are focused on the younger generation.

That WAS the point. Too show how many games are young target games for children. I can find easily a WHOLE list of under 14 year old games from nintendo.. Hell i can email nintendo and get them sent too me.

Come on §ôµÏG®ïñD those games you listed are awesome games that anybody can pick up and enjoy.  Mario Golf is one of the most fun golf games I have ever played.  I won\'t even talk about Mario Kart 64, I have had this game since it\'s been out.  I have stayed up 3 days straight playing it with my buddies and we are all over the focused Nintendo age limit.

Where did i say you can\'t enjoy them man. I know u can. I played Mario Kart for ages. I\'m just saying NINTENDO is KNOWN for having kiddy games.. Thats all man. I\'m not saying there not FUN or crap.

After reading this topic §ôµÏG®ïñD, you makes it sound like if we don\'t buy MS or Sony we are going to be wasting our money because the other ones won\'t be around much longer.  And those 3rd party developers won\'t even support the other machines.  That they will only go for PS2 or the xbox because they are a "sure thing".  (Even though in business, nothing is ever a sure thing)  If developers are in it just for the money, why don\'t they just port all of their games onto all systems?  That way they will get the most out of their games.  That makes sense to me.

Where did i SAY. That the developers would leave NGC and DC for Xbox and ps2.. I didn\'t ANYWHERE. All i said is they have the MOST developer support. That there the MOST likely too win this console war. EVERY NON BIAS gaming site BELIEVES this man. Developers DO check out websites.

Nintendo did just fine by themselves, just wait to see what happens when they start to get the back up of 3rd party support.  I\'m not saying that Sony is going to sit in a corner and cry, nor is MS.  They will all have awesome machines with awesome games.  Don\'t count any of them out.  And please stop with the "kiddie" comments.  They are getting very old and very repetitive.  

I just say kiddy because its easier then saying Under 14 age games..  I\'m not saying Nintendo or Sega won\'t do well. Because i KNOW they will. I KNOW they will have great games.

This is what i\'m saying.
Sega isn\'t good at keeping money.
Nintendo isn\'t well known for having Mature games on there N64.
Sony have VERY good user and Fan support. Sony have Very good Developer support.
MS have Very good developer support. Now if i was too go by web site polls. MS have the WORST fan support but the sites themselfs believe this will change when the 500 million ad margeting starts.. IMO i believe that Nintendo and Sony will be on top. BUT.. At the same time i believe Xbox may come up and became Number 1 or 2.

I believe it will be out of Ps2, Xbox and NGC. But i think Xbox and Ps2 will be on top in the end. i think NGC will go well at first but then xbox will slowly edge over it.
Hell for all i know. PS2 and DC could be  the worst.

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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD

Originally posted by ElAsesino


 

Also, with Sega onboard it will attract the "over 18" demographic to GameCube, and make the developers who make mature games develop for GC.  If this happens, then that will mean Sony and MS will have lost their edge over Nintendo as far as demographics.

How so.. Do u think developers will LEAVE sony and MS.. It Wouldn\'t happen. They would contunie too develope for there system. There is A LOT of money in them. They would be stupid not too.[/B]

   First of all, quit putting words in my mouth.  I never said that developers would leave Sony and MS.  It\'s called a port, and you should get used to that word because during this "Console War" that word will be used a lot.  Also, if Nintendo had around the same amount of 18+ users as Sony and MS, then that would mean that Sony\'s console and MS\'s console would no longer be the "mature" consoles.  Thus, no longer giving them an edge over Nintendo as far as demographics.

   

   No, Nintendo is all about quality.  I guarantee that Nintendo would keep every developer that makes good games that works for Sega.  

If nintendo was about Quality.. What happen too N64?... Ohhh right.. pokemon is great quality...... For a 7 year old.[/B]

  Nintendo is all about quality.  Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Super Mario 64, Zelda: Majora\'s Mask, Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Mario Tennis, WWF No Mercy, Wave Race, 1080 SnowBoarding, Banjo-Tooie, ExciteBike 64, Super Smash Brothers, Sin and Punishment: Succesor to the Earth (import, but has a small chance of coming to the U.S.), Banjo-Kazooie, F-Zero X, Mario Golf, San Franciso Rush 2049, Mario Kart 64, Beetle Adventure Racing, Star Wars: Rogue Squadron, WWF Wrestlemania 2000,...
  Have you ever played Pokemon?  I swear almost everyone who says, "Pokemon sucks or its kiddy" haven\'t even played it before.
 

I would also guarantee that they would get rid of the ones who don\'t know what they are doing (which I doubt there are any of those type of people).

are u talking Developers? because i\'m sure if non of them didn\'t know what there doing. They wouldn\'t be developering. [/B][/QUOTE]

  You misunderstood me when I said "the ones who don\'t know what they are doing".  Of course they know what they are doing, but they are horrible at what they do.  It\'s like Luc Longley in the NBA.  He knows what he\'s doing, but he just sucks horribly.  That is what I meant when I said that.  So, Nintendo would get rid of people who have little talent, but keep the ones who were talented.

[Edited by ElAsesino on 12-29-2000 at 11:26 AM]

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Okay. OKay!
Lets not drag Mario\'s good name and reputation into this subject. Mario is awesome and will maintain to be awesome through out all time of VideoGaming. If you wanna bring Lugi into the subject, go for it !