What the hell are you on about crumble, EA have simple recieved dev tools and benchmarked Gamecube immediatly, with no time at all to optimise the program code and these are the numbers, pretty ****ing good i\'d say. The 10 Million PPS figure for all effects comes from close 2nd party developers for Nintendo, those figures are achieved with optimised code, I trust you know what that is.
lol.
what 10 mpps figure? Oh yes, the one you just pulled out of your ass.
I trust you know what portable code is.
In all likelihood the benchmark EA was using was a simple one (probably something like this:
http://www.nvidia.com/Marketing/Developer/DevRel.nsf/pages/6D06759A6B04E7008825691C0071B29D), and they probably already had the source code to the benchmark in GLUT opengl format.
That gives them around a week to optimize the code (pretty easy assuming they know opengl, which every 3d graphics programmer has probably learned at some point), then bench it.
actual time with the console is less of an issue when you consider that this a benchmark (not a game), and that they probably already had the source for it.
At the time (as well as now) XDK\'s consisted of a Pentium 3 733 and a GeForce 2 GTS, RS2 ran at 60 frames per second on Gamecube and ran at 12 frames per second on the XDK, much more then 50% more powerful. Julian never once said Gamecube was 50% more powerful then X-Box but in his \'eat broom\' comment he indicated he would be suprised if XBox could match the RS2 demo, his comment still stands.
lol, listen.
he said this:
Both [ demos ] run in real time on the gamecube and uses approx. 50% of the hardware
then he said this
if the Xbox can create that, I will eat a broom.
put two and two together....
he says the demo uses 50% of the gc hardware, and says xbox isn\'t capable of it, so therefore ::drumroll:: he is saying xbox is less than 50% as powerful as gamecube.
aparently you agree with him...lol
He was speaking on a german message board before in which his posts were deleted soon afterwards, his latest comments were offical comments made to IGN, quite a difference.
There is some truth to that, but I doubt he would hold back saying gc is better if he really wanted to. In a recent interview with igncube a member of factor 5 proclaimed gc\'s audio as better than xbox\'s, so I see no reason for Julian not to proclaim gc\'s graphics as superior.
His posts were deleted because he got into trouble with Nintendo. I doubt he is going to get into trouble with Nintendo if he says gc has better graphics than xbox.
You would think he may be worried about getting in trouble with microsoft, but that hasn\'t stopped him from constanty hinting toward gc superior in the past, and that didn\'t stop factor 5 director of technology Thomas Engel from proclaiming gc sound superior to xbox\'s, and that doesn\'t stop Julian from constantly putting a pro-gc spin on everything he discusses.
case in point - ram:
Yes. Absolutely. We can\'t really complain about any aspect. Oh yeah, of course we could complain that the RAM could be bigger, but you can complain about that on any and every machine under the sun. I mean, a good example would be, if you compared it to Xbox which has a little more RAM, Xbox\'s audio format, on the other hand, is much more memory intensive than GameCube\'s so in the end they pretty much even out once again. So far all of these systems you can always complain about the memory.
lol, a little more. He\'s kidding, right?
gamecube - 43mb
xbox - 64mb
counting the A-ram, which is really just buffer for the dvd drive, gc has 21 mb less ram than xbox. It\'s absurd to say that\'s "a little more ram"; It\'s nearly the size of gc\'s entire main ram.
Then, lol, he says xbox\'s audio format is memory intensive, so that makes up fot it. I\'m not exactly sure if that\'s true (I doubt it), but I kinda doubt the xbox is going to use 21mb for sound. Like I just said, that\'s the size of all of gc\'s main memory.
That\'s just one of the many examples of Julian spinning every situation in favor of gc.
I really doubt he would hold back saying the gc has much better graphics, unless of course he knew he was going to be proven wrong very soon.
[Edited by drcrumble on 01-02-2001 at 12:18 AM]
