When HDD? When????????

yes...
it was not untill 6 months ago I got BB..
I still remember 56k.. dialing up, and being jealous of BB...
I would be very pissed if I did not have an option to play online... (aka, XBOX)
Even NGC is going to give a choice.
M$ made another bad choice when having a BB adapotor only on their console, leaving millions of people (yes, I said millions) out in the cold...
Not incluing USB leaves out the possibilty of adding a USB 56k,
If I did not have BB I would be royally pissed off if I could not play online with my console beacuse the company choose to not include it.. even as an option.

Why is your name PSX2Central, if you disrespect everything about it?  What an oxymoron!

Why is your name PSX2Central, if you disrespect everything about it? What an oxymoron!

LOL, you don\'t even know what a OXYMORON is you MORON.
Go look it up in the oxford.

Also you guys talk about beening pissed by not being able to play with 56k. MS said with 56k there would be no point, cause it would be too slow to handle the game. BB is the future, and i think the reasons are clear. WHo the hell in there right mind would attempt to play an XBOX game with a 56k. If you think 56k lags in UT for the pc wait till you see an xbox game like HALO, you would be lucky if you get movent every two seconds.

56K will not work for xbox games, MS wants people to have the ultimate gamming experience. I have been playing online for years now, and i can tell you bad lag makes a game unplayable. Also minor lag really takes away on the quality of the gamming experience.

Hell i think BB is slow, i want a t3 or something.

I want you to take a look at your picture, do you realize what kind of reputation you have here?  No one even listens to you, because they don\'t care!

MS wants people to have the ultimate gamming experience.

LOL! I found that quite amusing.

i want a t3 or something.

Sorry but people like you usually can\'t afford adance technologie. (I\'m talking about the dumb people who can\'t get a better job than a cashier) .And I\'m not insulting cashiers by thw way. I\'m sure most of them could out smart PSX2CENTRAL.

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Originally posted by PSX2CENTRAL
Also you guys talk about beening pissed by not being able to play with 56k. MS said with 56k there would be no point, cause it would be too slow to handle the game. BB is the future, and i think the reasons are clear. WHo the hell in there right mind would attempt to play an XBOX game with a 56k. If you think 56k lags in UT for the pc wait till you see an xbox game like HALO, you would be lucky if you get movent every two seconds.

Are u having troubles understanding this.. BB may be the future.. But right now. It\'s userbase is to small to be a only option on a console

I play UT against personal friends that have BB.. on my pc. We don\'t have any trouble with lag. Most of us get a ping of 10. That\'s in aus mind u. I normaly get a ping of 50-60 against US players that are on BB..

56K will not work for xbox games, MS wants people to have the ultimate gamming experience. I have been playing online for years now, and i can tell you bad lag makes a game unplayable. Also minor lag really takes away on the quality of the gamming experience.

When u play games. Join against people that have faster connections then u.. It helps.. To give them lag hehe. but if u want fair games. Simply connect against people with the same PING. Not modem speed.  It\'s really about how far and how many nodes your com goes through before playing people, That gives u lag.

I play UT sometimes against Samwise.. We get pings of 800 sometimes on BB. But other times we get pings of 80. It really just depends on the server. So if MS or Sony are making there OWN servers for the consoles.

I don\'t think 56k users will have the trouble playing xbox games. Maybe agianst over seas players. But u get more trouble on pcs because there are 56k users making SERVERS for games...

My point is.. Why make a BB only service, When there really isn\'t Enough BB users out there to support it.

Hell i think BB is slow, i want a t3 or something.

Maybe if you had your own business you could do that. It\'s a GOOD deal of money for a T3 connetion.

Maybe if you had your own business you could do that. It\'s a GOOD deal of money for a T3 connetion

Yep they told me that i could not get one installed cause you need to have a business, in order for them to install one for you. DAng!!!

Sorry but people like you usually can\'t afford adance technologie. (I\'m talking about the dumb people who can\'t get a better job than a cashier) .And I\'m not insulting cashiers by thw way. I\'m sure most of them could out smart PSX2CENTRAL.

You just love to open your mouth when ever you can, LOL,LOL.
I bet i make twice the amount you make in a year. I have my own business, and i\'m  only 20 years of age, now that is pretty good, indeed. Also you say people like me, what do you mean by that, you don\'t know me personally. What i think of people in this Forum is completly differnt for what I think of them in in real life. So you can assume all you want,b ut it will get you nowhere.

Also the amount a t3 costs to operate mouthy is very affordable for me. I have never needed to work as a cashier or any 9-5 job cause I played the game smart and made money on my own. Now I’m not even going to speculate on what you do for a living, cause I really don\'t care.
Also to  SOULGRIND, I never disagreed with you on the 56k issue, but I was pointing out that 56k sucks ass to play games on. Put it this way, would you play a single player PSX2 game, if it were all chopped up in speed and in fluidity. Or even a game in which everything you do is delayed. Hell no!!, I’m so happy that xbox will only support BB, I hope it forces people to get bb in order to play the games online.

PS. why is Nintendo even bothering in implanting online play for the GC when nintendo\'s president said online play is a FAD?????????

Originally posted by PSX2CENTRAL

Maybe if you had your own business you could do that. It\'s a GOOD deal of money for a T3 connetion

Yep they told me that i could not get one installed cause you need to have a business, in order for them to install one for you. DAng!!!

Sorry but people like you usually can\'t afford adance technologie. (I\'m talking about the dumb people who can\'t get a better job than a cashier) .And I\'m not insulting cashiers by thw way. I\'m sure most of them could out smart PSX2CENTRAL.

You just love to open your mouth when ever you can, LOL,LOL.
I bet i make twice the amount you make in a year. I have my own business, and i\'m  only 20 years of age, now that is pretty good, indeed. Also you say people like me, what do you mean by that, you don\'t know me personally. What i think of people in this Forum is completly differnt for what I think of them in in real life. So you can assume all you want,b ut it will get you nowhere.

Also the amount a t3 costs to operate mouthy is very affordable for me. I have never needed to work as a cashier or any 9-5 job cause I played the game smart and made money on my own. Now I’m not even going to speculate on what you do for a living, cause I really don\'t care.
Also to  SOULGRIND, I never disagreed with you on the 56k issue, but I was pointing out that 56k sucks ass to play games on. Put it this way, would you play a single player PSX2 game, if it were all chopped up in speed and in fluidity. Or even a game in which everything you do is delayed. Hell no!!, I’m so happy that xbox will only support BB, I hope it forces people to get bb in order to play the games online.

PS. why is Nintendo even bothering in implanting online play for the GC when nintendo\'s president said online play is a FAD?????????
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umm,i\'m not here to argue about 56k and cable modems,but i was observing this thread and on this post by Psx2central (why do you name yourself after a website?) and he contradicted his own self about the T3 connection...said "you need to have a business, in order for them to install one for you",then the next phrase while responding to another person,said "I have my own business, and i\'m  only 20 years of age, now that is pretty good, indeed",what\'s up with that?? kind of hard to take what he writes as anything serious...not that i do much after all the negative rants he likes to say here in the forums

I hear lemonade stands are a booming industry.

Originally posted by Lavan
I hear lemonade stands are a booming industry.

lol - yeah i didn\'t take that into consideration if that was Psx2central\'s "business",my bad

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Psx2central, It\'s like this.. why not have a SIMPLE Option. Why not have it so people can choose for themselfs if they need broadband or not too play xbox games online. It\'s bad enough people are paying for a HD that may never be used. But having too get Broadband to use this HD seems to me abit of a well, Prick.

and he contradicted his own self about the T3 connection...said "you need to have a business, in order for them to install one for you",then the next phrase while responding to another person,said "I have my own business, and i\'m only 20 years of age, now that is pretty good, indeed",what\'s up with that?? kind of hard to take what he writes as anything serious...not that i do much after all the negative rants he likes to say here in the forums

You are a MORON, in order to get a t3 you need a business that requires one, my business does not, besides i tried and they told me no. I run my business at home(mosty)
You see before you open your mouth and assume things you should have asked me first. I had feeling that when i wrote that post you were all going to get me for that statement, but then i figured(which was my mistake)that you guys would have known that already. Anyways i might be getting one. I have a contract with a assembly plant for new order status, and i will tell them that i need a t3 for my business, that it requires one. So it looks like i might be getting one, i\'ll keep my fingers cross.

It\'s bad enough people are paying for a HD that may never be used

Are you kidding me man. The creators of the xbox, when bringing to idea to gates, stressed many times to him that the HDD was one of the most important parts of the xbox, gates did not want it at first, but the team cionvinced him to put it in. The xbox HDD will used for every game. Now when deveopers take advantage of the hdd to enhance game play you will see that the hdd is all about, please read this link it will explain all
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well i hope that i get a bb connection sometime soon, but if i don\'t then i hope that the developers and sony will help out all the 56k users and not just leave us hanging ---which i find almost immpossible for sony to do - they would lose too much money w/o 56k support

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Originally posted by PSX2CENTRAL

It\'s bad enough people are paying for a HD that may never be used

Are you kidding me man. The creators of the xbox, when bringing to idea to gates, stressed many times to him that the HDD was one of the most important parts of the xbox, gates did not want it at first, but the team cionvinced him to put it in. The xbox HDD will used for every game. Now when deveopers take advantage of the hdd to enhance game play you will see that the hdd is all about, please read this link it will explain all
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What link?.
What can u do with a Console HD, Without internet?.

Use it as a Memcard. If your needing to install games onto the HD before u play them. Then XBOX IS sounding a lot like a pc. But i don\'t think that will happen.

You could use the Harddisk for appz etc. But again. Xbox isn\'t a pc. So what can u do with the HD for games without the internet?. I\'m just interest. I mean the only thing my HD does on my pc without the net is,
1. Installing games.
2. Installing Programs, apps etc - (I doubt xbox will need or HAVE programs, apps etc)
3. Installing Drivers for hardware.
4. Installing the OS. (operating system)
4. Multimedia apps. (Sound, Movie editors, Movie viewers etc.)
I can\'t really think of much else my HD is good for.

With net.
Download Mods and game patches.
Download updates for products, Programs, Apps, Hardware drivers etc.
Play online games.
Go to lovely forums.
Download game demos,and/or freeware products, apps.
That\'s all i can think off for the net.


Tell me, Out of the list. What can Xbox do without the net. and with the net.

The xbox hd without the net
Will be good for storing save games.
Maybe game editors, Etc making your own maps for ut etc. Stuff like that.

With the net.
Download game patches, Updates.
Downloading demos..

If anyone else can think of other stuff. Be free to post it. This also goes for ps2.