When HDD? When????????

Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD

Originally posted by PSX2CENTRAL
SOULGRIND i have been at this site since it first opened. I may not have posted much in the beginning, but i believe around july i was doing alot of posting. (under a differnt name of course)

Then u should know that when this forum FIRST opened, There wasn\'t much posting. Compared to now.

Now yes it is true most people have ****ty 56k modems but the numbers in boradband are increasing. Also who the hell would want tommoorows games with a 56k??? lag, lag lag.
Also MS said there games transfer so much data that 56k would just not be possible. The dreamcast just barely pulled it off, then again they had there own dedicated network, but even NFL2k had delay time.

That still doesn\'t change the simple fact. Not everyone has Broadband, Not everyone has the internet. Making systems so they only support broadband. Isn\'t a good idea. It\'s how do they say it. "shooting ones self in the foot". [/B]

   56K users should be shunned.  Telephone modems are from the late 1970\'s and were used in Bulletin Board Systems (BBS\'s) back in the 80\'s and 90\'s.  This is the 21st century and analog modems are holding progress back.  I work for a company called CinemaNow and the entire idea of our company is video on demand on any device.  Now you can\'t do this on a 56k modem, so they should be cut out altogether.  If you don\'t have broadband, find a way to get it.  It would make everything so much better and so much simpler if analog modems went the way of the Commodore 64, but they are still around and still causing computers to be unstable and now that they are going to be available for consoles like the PS2, forget it!

   Microsoft\'s way for the xbox is correct, screw the non broadband users and give them a killer app to adopt it.

   We are dropping 56k at work soon as well.  It causes too much instability and if you live in a place that doesn\'t offer broadband, then you are going to have to wait.  Chances are that you probably just got electricity a few months ago anyway.

   The World Wide Wait is for analog modems and instability and modem strings and dialing out and disabling call waiting and getting disconnected and high ping times just isn\'t worth it for Online gaming.... Sorry, but some times legacy must be destroyed.

Still here Docwiz?

[§ôµÏG®ïñD]

Dwarrior,
So u believe that snobbing of Dialup users, It will help the BB evolution?.  
I think it will piss of more people then get them to go out and buy broadband..
People may buy broadband for personal computers if thats all that was supported. But the Xbox and ps2 are not pcs. There gaming machines. So not putting dailup support on the xbox, Will properly just piss people off. more then making them go out and buy BB. IMO.

PS. I\'m not trying to sound like a moron. I just wanna know what people think about a HD for any console without the internet. How it will be better for consoles.

Now yes it is true most people have ****ty 56k modems but the numbers in boradband are increasing. Also who the hell would want tommoorows games with a 56k??? lag, lag lag.
Also MS said there games transfer so much data that 56k would just not be possible. The dreamcast just barely pulled it off, then again they had there own dedicated network, but even NFL2k had delay time.

that still doesn\'t change the simple fact. Not everyone has Broadband, Not everyone has the internet. Making systems so they only support broadband. Isn\'t a good idea. It\'s how do they say it. "shooting ones self in the foot".

I agree with you there Soul, but isnt having a ethernet adapter at launch better than releasing one after launch?? And sony is doing the same thing. The PS2 isnt going to support 56k, only broadband. Does that me sony is shooting themselves in the foot too?

What link?.
What can u do with a Console HD, Without internet?.

Use it as a Memcard. If your needing to install games onto the HD before u play them. Then XBOX IS sounding a lot like a pc. But i don\'t think that will happen.

You could use the Harddisk for appz etc. But again. Xbox isn\'t a pc. So what can u do with the HD for games without the internet?. I\'m just interest. I mean the only thing my HD does on my pc without the net is,
1. Installing games.
2. Installing Programs, apps etc - (I doubt xbox will need or HAVE programs, apps etc)
3. Installing Drivers for hardware.
4. Installing the OS. (operating system)
4. Multimedia apps. (Sound, Movie editors, Movie viewers etc.)
I can\'t really think of much else my HD is good for.

With net.
Download Mods and game patches.
Download updates for products, Programs, Apps, Hardware drivers etc.
Play online games.
Go to lovely forums.  
Download game demos,and/or freeware products, apps.
That\'s all i can think off for the net.


Tell me, Out of the list. What can Xbox do without the net. and with the net.

The xbox hd without the net
Will be good for storing save games.
Maybe game editors, Etc making your own maps for ut etc. Stuff like that.

With the net.
Download game patches, Updates.
Downloading demos..

If anyone else can think of other stuff. Be free to post it. This also goes for ps2.  

HERE YOU GO SOULGRIND READ THIS LINK IT WILL EXPLAIN EVERYTHING FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.msxbox.com/hardware_php/hd.php3

I agree with you there Soul, but isnt having a ethernet adapter at launch better than releasing one after launch?? And sony is doing the same thing. The PS2 isnt going to support 56k, only broadband. Does that me sony is shooting themselves in the foot too?

wELL, WELL, WELL IF THIS IS TRUE, then looks like all of you were wrong when indeed sony was doing the same thing for there online games.LOL,LOL you were saying soulgrind
???

Then again this might not be true like i said earler

The PS2 will have support for a 56k modem via USB and developers who see the potential will very likely want to have some form of network play in their games. Sony themselves seem to be ignoring narrowband connections and are concentrating on their broadband box and network, probably a good idea considering their apparent goals. I think the lack of support for analogue modems (from both MS and Sony) is suprising considering the market penetration they have, broadband users make up a relatively small percentage of those online as far as I am aware.

-bd