RPG sequel question

Yeah, thats what Im saying.
Besides all the puzzles now-a-days are just variations of other puzzles nothin new in them.
Thats why I like adventure games.
Puzzles can be so diverse, and none are like another.
I mean, you have QFG, and then you have Day of the Tentacle. Both, are adventures, but both are completely different.
I hope there is a resurgance of adventure games, with the induction of SoD and (hopefully) the new Monkey Island game, for the PS2.

Puzzles in games today are just too damn easy.

You know a game that had really hard puzzles?

Alundra. Now that game had some hard puzzles.
Its like Zelda, but(in my opinion) better, and for the Playstation.A very good game.

Yeah, here\'s hoping there\'s a resurgance in the Adventure game market. I\'m sure it will happen eventually, it just takes the right game at the right time. FF7 did it for RPG\'s, Warcraft did it for RTS, maybe SoD, MI4, or Shenmue will do it this time around. My only wish is that Sierra gets tired of holding on to their licences and sells them back to their creators so that all of the great Sierra classics can make a true comeback. One look at Run Like Hell and I drool to think of what Space Quest would look like... Not to mention the LSL chicks. *Drool*

Speaking of Shemue, there\'s another example of what you were talking about. It\'s an adventure, but it\'s puzzles revolve around dialouge and being at certain places at certain times. It\'s wholly different than anything else out there as far as puzzles go.. but it\'s still an adventure.

I think the problem today is that people just don\'t want to use their brains. It\'s faster and easier to get a cheap thrill from shooting a virtual opponent than to spend hours trying to figure out a brain twister. But by the same token, I think the feeling you get after solving some of those puzzles and knowing the kind of effort that you put into them is much better than the cheap thrill kill. I\'ve never felt the same level of accomplishment from beating a shooter than I have from finishing a good adventure.

Yeah.
I have also yet to play a good adventure game that had a bad sequel.
Every QFG, SQ,and LSL game I have played has been really fun.
Im not mentioning KQ because sierra MANGLED those games after the sixth one.

Im just tired of RE type puzzles.
Find the key, put it in the hole.
Find something, put it in something.
Let me think, whats the most unique puzzle in the QFG series...
To many.
Ill think about it and post when I come up with one.
What I like about all adventure games Ive played is that sometimes your solving a puzzle and you dont even think of it as a puzzle, thats how fun they are.
Remember that game Dungeon Master for Nintendo.
Now that game was a fun Adventure, Puzzle game.

No, actually I\'ve never played Dungeon Master for the Nintnedo. (But I might just have to go download the rom now that you\'ve recommended it.) The only adventure games on the NES that I remember are Manic Mansion and King\'s Quest 5, both of which were simply butchered to death by the time they made the transistion. KQ1 was alright on the SMS, but the control killed the concept.  Ah, well. At least Willy Beamish and Rise of the Dragon turned out well on the SegaCD. It\'s really no wonder most console gamers don\'t think highly of Adventure games when you think about it.

I guess that\'s the reason I don\'t really mind the puzzles in RE and SH so much. Yeah, their a little anal retentive and predictable (EXPECIALLY in Resident Evil 2), but at least there are puzzle solving elements and that may bring more people into the "Pure" adventure gaming fold. I like to think of it as a way of desensitising the action gamer to the presence of puzzles... then slowly turning him/her on to new game experiences that don\'t just involve pulling triggers and jumping platforms.

Now I don\'t know if I\'ve ever played a BAD sequal to an adventure game.. but I have played a few dissapointing ones. LSL5, Legend of Kyrandia: Hand of Fate, SQ3, PQ2, KQ7, MI3, Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine.. their all good games in their own right, but they just weren\'t as good as I had hoped they would be.

I guess thats a good point.
I never thought about that Desensitizing idea.
And I left out KQ for a very good reason.
I dont even know why they kept calling it Kings Quest after the 6th one(the best one in my opinion.).

Dungeon master is a game that takes place in the first person point of view, and you have to walk around this old castle and solve a bunch of puzzles.
LIke you have to burn a rug to get a key.
Or there is a fire breathing monster stopping you from getting to a chest, so you need to find a shield to divert its fire, so that you can get to the chest.
Remember though that its an old game.
Kinda like QFG2.

I still consider KQ7 an adventure because of it\'s puzzle solving nature and attention to dialouge. KQ8 is a different story though. That\'s an action/Adventure game, more of a Tomb Raider than anything that has to do with KQ.

I\'ll give that game you mentioned a try, but I\'m not very keen on adventures in the first person view mode. They just don\'t have the same feel as third person viewed games. Myst, Riven, Lighthouse, XFiles.. they\'ve all kinda sucked IMO. RPG\'s aren\'t that bad as FPS if done correctly, so I\'ll try to keep an open mind about it.

Oh its nothing like those kind of adventures.
No where near as......dull.
Cause those ones you mentioned were very dull and lifeless in my mind.
Its more like....Kings quest I would say but in the First person.
It was pretty fun, back then.
My favorite pure adventure series(not including QFG, cause its not pure adventure) have to be SQ.
Especially Space Quest 5.
That game is so fun.
I dont think you can beat that game, when it comes to having lots of fun, while being extremely ODD!

I like your new quote.
Thats one of my favorite parts from that movie.
Hopefully they wont make you change it because its over 5 lines long.

Yeah, hopefully it\'ll be cool enough that the mods will let me keep it. I\'ve really been getting into the movie lately and it was a tossup between this,

"Any moron with a pack of matches can start a fire. Raining down sulfur takes a huge level of endurance. Mass genocide is the most exhausting activity one can engage in, next to soccer." - Loki

or

"What I just did gave me a f*cking migrane, so if you don\'t pipe down I\'m gonna rip your sack off like a paper towel!" - Rufus

Either one is good if they don\'t let me keep this one.

SQ5 is definately the best of the SQ series. It\'s just so much more well polished than the other games and the ability to control an entire starship is just cool as hell.

Thats just why I loved that game so much.
I wish they would make more games like that.
It was so fun.
personally, I love the "raining down Sulfer" quote personally.
My favorite part is when they go to the Mooby building and kill all those people.
I just wish they woulda made a movie based on those two killing people for breaking the 7 deadly sins.
That woulda been awesome.

Heh, maybe you\'ll get lucky and they\'ll do a prequal.. I doubt it though. Overall I thought it was kick ass movie that explained, or at least showed, a good point that I\'ve been trying to make for a long time now. It\'s one thing to have faith in god, a god, any god, but to believe a 3000+ year old doctrine as the absoulte truth when we know for a FACT that it\'s been changed and rewritten hundreds upon hundreds of times is pure stupidity. And I\'m a Roman Catholic! IMO, you have to read between the lines, get at the true message, and develop you OWN (not your churches) relationship with god to get the full use out of the bible.

The Mooby scene was one of the best, but I like the part where they meet Seredipity better. Selma Hiyeck(sp?) is one increadible hottie and I love any chance to see her dancing around in her skivvies.

Oh, I love that part too.
She is extemely hot.
Im more of an Angelina Jolie person personally.
I cant wait for Tomb Raider.
I think they picked the perfect person to play that part.

I want a new SQ game damnit.
I think that sequel could go on forever.
I didnt like the ending to SQ6.

Yeah Jolie is cute, but I don\'t think she\'s all that great. There\'s just something about her that kind freaks me out.. maybe it\'s the fact she was sleeping with her brother in law? I dunno. I\'d take Jennifer Aniston over her anyday.

Yeah, I\'d like to see the Space quest series continue on too. But it makes you wonder.. just how many sequels can there be? I mean, Sierra has got to hold some kind of record for the PC/adventure game market over having the most direct sequels to any one game. Hell, their right up there with Nintnedo it seems. King\'s Quest has 8 games, Space Quest has 6, Leisure Suit Larry has 7, QFG has 5, and Police Quest has 4 not counting Swat.. 7 if you do count the Swat series.

I\'d like to see them all continue under the right circumstances. Damn.. I wish Ken would have handed over the copyrights to all the games to their respective designers before he quit. Now we\'re at the mercy of the demographic and corperate suits.

Thats a good point.
I dont even really want a Sequel, just a new Adventure game to sink my teeth into.
What the name of Lori\'s new company?
I still would choose Angelina anyday, but thats just me.
Did you hear?
Blood Omen 2 is to be a 50-70 hour Adventure Rpg.
That should be cool.

Blood Omen 2? I\'ve heard of it, but I haven\'t really looked into it all that much. I\'ll have to keep my eye on it.

Lori and Corey\'s company is called Transolar games. For right now, their working at a company called Explorati or something like that. This company\'s new system is going to be what they develop games for, not Sega or Sony like I thought. (Though I wouldn\'t totally count them out of developing for a major console in this generation.) Let\'s just hope their new game is a good one like QFG and not another stinker like Shannara. Transolar\'s future hinges on weither or not this new system is a success or not.

Thats cool.
What system is this?
Ive never even heard of it.