PS2 HDD/ethernet bundle in japan very soon

Yeah. I\'ll buy one anyway.

Originally posted by Solid Snake 88
If Sony made some games REQUIRE the HDD then it would discourage many people. Besides, it will sell fine if Sony offers it for free when you sign up for their online network.

Why would I sign up for their online network if I already have a broadband connection?


I am seariously starting to think that if i buy this thing I\'m going to come home, open up the box and see a 32X logo with a sony sticker over top of it. I hope Sony doesnt get careless because of their jealousy toward MS and how they included a HD. If they do it right it could be great, but if they screw up it could kill Sony just like the same mistake killed Sega.

yea but what sega did with the 32x and what sony is doing with the HDD are two different things...

for one the reason you need to sign up to their netowrk is so you can become a member and play online - just like some PC online games require a monthly fee - EverQuest as an example

trust me Sony knows what they are doing

I like raisens

Why would I sign up for their online network if I already have a broadband connection?


I am seariously starting to think that if i buy this thing I\'m going to come home, open up the box and see a 32X logo with a sony sticker over top of it. I hope Sony doesnt get careless because of their jealousy toward MS and how they included a HD. If they do it right it could be great, but if they screw up it could kill Sony just like the same mistake killed Sega

of course you\'ll have to pay extra to use PS2 online...the connection is from a partnership with Sony,Sega and Namco,so you know the setup will be well worth everything in the end. i have no problem paying for an extra i.s.p. to be able to play PS2 games that way,i don\'t expect it to be setup like a pc,they are both different beasts. there is no way the HD will go the way of the 32X,i\'ll bet anyone any amount of money on that! first it would have have to be void of support,not going to happen (especially now that Sega and Namco are behind the online project) and second people will have to not want to pay for it,Sony can practically give it away with a game bundle and an internet deal,it will be nearly as desirable as the PS2 itself during the time of it\'s release if they plug it with a highly desired game and possible other software use.

There is NO WAY I\'m going to pay $10 a month to play a PS2 game online. Sega only charged you if you used their ISP, not just to play. Sony is screwed if they are going to force people to pay to play.

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Originally posted by Sublimesjg
yea but what sega did with the 32x and what sony is doing with the HDD are two different things...

for one the reason you need to sign up to their netowrk is so you can become a member and play online - just like some PC online games require a monthly fee - EverQuest as an example

trust me Sony knows what they are doing

Ps2 = $300
Broadband = $50 (I speculate)
HD = $100-150 (I imagine)
online play = $20 or so?

Thats more then the average console player will spend on a console.

Yeah thats Bullsh1t. I can see if its a MMORPG. But paying for an extra ISP to play Madden seems like a kick in the ass from a company saying, "We can and WILL do whatever we want because no-one can stop us."

don\'t say no-one!!!!

you\'re just inviting him!



Seems to me Living-In-Clip that you don\'t want it to succeed...

NO WAY IN HELL the PS2\'s HDD/Ethernet adapter cost over $100

if it does its a failure

Sony will make there money from online advertising. I wouldn\'t be surprised if the PS2 automaically takes you to a SOny home page full of links and advertising, and as you move from game server to server there will be more advertising. Your loading screens will be brought to you  by Pepsi

Sony can\'t afford to sell the HDD/ethernet for much at all, Sony knows add-ons fail, and expensive add-ons defiently fail

Expect Sony do something to offset the costs because they have much much bigger plans for online then just games which will make SOny even more money in the long run, so why stick the knife in and throw away all that major money making potential by selling the necessary equipment for way more than the majority of casual gamers would even think about spending



I would also think your local ISP would be fine, cause having a seperate ISP for your PS2 and your PC would also price it outta reach of the majority of casual owners. Only the diehards would HAVE TO have online capabilities for that kinda scratch. I would think you\'d connect through your local ISP but the PS2 Browser will automatically take your too the SOny PS2 homepage

Online subscriptions for games might be offset by being able to pick up Online games for $10 and paying $5 a month to play them or something.

Somehow all those online gaming servers need to be paid for or need to make a revenue, advertising may pay the bills then again it might not

I hope we can connest directly to ISP addresses of our buddies

Hopefully they\'ll offer smaller hard drive sizes. A 6 to 10 gig hard drive will work quite fine for me.

Later,
Infected

Originally posted by Infected
Hopefully they\'ll offer smaller hard drive sizes. A 6 to 10 gig hard drive will work quite fine for me.

Later,
Infected

That would be very cool.  Maybe after the HDD is released after a while, a smaller version will come out.  I don\'t need 40 gigs, but I\'ll still buy it!  40 gigs is more than in my computer right now!

Originally posted by Infected
Hopefully they\'ll offer smaller hard drive sizes. A 6 to 10 gig hard drive will work quite fine for me.

Later,
Infected

I\'m re-posting this cause I\'m convinced the PS2\'s HD/ethernet adapter won\'t be that expensive

Originally posted by ddaryl
NO WAY IN HELL the PS2\'s HDD/Ethernet adapter cost over $100

if it does its a failure

Sony will make there money from online advertising. I wouldn\'t be surprised if the PS2 automaically takes you to a SOny home page full of links and advertising, and as you move from game server to server there will be more advertising. Your loading screens will be brought to you  by Pepsi

Sony can\'t afford to sell the HDD/ethernet for much at all, Sony knows add-ons fail, and expensive add-ons defiently fail

Expect Sony do something to offset the costs because they have much much bigger plans for online then just games which will make SOny even more money in the long run, so why stick the knife in and throw away all that major money making potential by selling the necessary equipment for way more than the majority of casual gamers would even think about spending



I would also think your local ISP would be fine, cause having a seperate ISP for your PS2 and your PC would also price it outta reach of the majority of casual owners. Only the diehards would HAVE TO have online capabilities for that kinda scratch. I would think you\'d connect through your local ISP but the PS2 Browser will automatically take your too the SOny PS2 homepage

Online subscriptions for games might be offset by being able to pick up Online games for $10 and paying $5 a month to play them or something.

Somehow all those online gaming servers need to be paid for or need to make a revenue, advertising may pay the bills then again it might not

I hope we can connest directly to ISP addresses of our buddies

 

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i agree with ddayrl.

making the internet bundle very expencive would hurt sales.

if you can buy the x box for about $300 (rumored) with hardrive and stuff at launch, in order to make the ps2 competitive, sony would have to drop that in for about $100, so sont cant afford to have it very expencive. gamers like us will buy itanyways, but for it to appeal to the general public, it has to be cheap and useful... they should downsize it to make it more effective, at least to  30 gig..

Wait so everyone is sayin that the Bundle will be from around 100-150... but then we still have to pay monthly for it rite?