What company has the best 1st party developers?

Ninja Gainden =Tecmo, I cant believe no one spotted that mistake either!! Come on get your facts straight before you print them. All companies have to have a series they fall back on. Nintendo has Mario. Sega has Sonic. Capcom has SF. etc! Sega makes more games, some may be lemons, but when you put in the fact they make like 2 times mroe games, yes, it comes out that Sega is in fact, the better developer!

Eric Jacob

For right now, Nintendo.  However, they are by no means in a secure spot.  I need to see a lot of new ideas out of them and a lot less of the same old characters fast.  If I think Nintendo is going to do the same games with the same old licences then I think my GCN will become ignored before 2002.

i would say konami

Originally posted by SLIMSHADY739
i would say konami

Are you paying attention?

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
All companies have to have a series they fall back on. Nintendo has Mario. Sega has Sonic. Capcom has SF. etc! Sega makes more games, some may be lemons, but when you put in the fact they make like 2 times mroe games, yes, it comes out that Sega is in fact, the better developer!

Eric Jacob

That argument makes absolutely NO sense. Here is an analogy:

You and I both own Electronics companies. We both make excellent TVs. The only difference is I make twice as many TVs than you do. Does that mean I am a better TV maker? No, It could just mean that:

1: I have larger facilities and/or More staff.

2: I use my TV making time better.

If this were a few months ago I would have said Sega with no doubt.  But they are 3rd party now.

So my next choice, and the obvious one, Nintendo.  There franchises are so good.  I mean, Zelda, Mario, Donkey Kong, Banjo, etc. don\'t sell millions because of nothing.

I would agree with some all nintendo does is rehash there first pary games. Nothin new and innovative. I think when it comes to first party since i am way over 13 sega. I have out grown nintendo. And sony first party development is now way comparison to nintendo and sega.

Does the fact that they make games of their franchises every generation mean they rehash franchises? Zelda:OOT is NOT a rehash. Mario 64 is NOT a rehash. Games like Tekken 4 are rehashes. Games like Tomb Raider are rehashes. Rehashes don\'t get perfect scores from Famitsu. You guys aren\'t very technical when it comes to gaming but Mario 64 was a Technical masterpiece when it first came out.

The Hypocrisy here is mind-boggling. Games like Mario and Zelda are lambasted for being un-innovative and rehashes but VF4 and GT3 are heralded as the second coming. This makes no sense. VF4 and GT3 are the exact same things with prettier graphics. Does this make any sense whatsoever? Not to me it doesn\'t.

There have been 5 Mario games and 5 Zelda games. So if there is one more VF after VF4 then they all become rehashes correct? Oh wait, there have been 4 Donkey Kong games. Now that doesn\'t make sense, does it? I have had enough of this. I am going to sleep.

sorry Gohan, I shall now strike your unfounded (and unresearched) opinions down!

None of the VF sequels have EVER been rehashes. Ever. Tekken I would say so, minus TTT. VF was the first polygon game. VF2 had learning AI, and texture mapped polys. VF3tb had team fighting, survival, etc. VF4 has eroding surfaces and fully interactive playing fields. Don\'t state what you DON\'T know.

GT3 is a technical masterpiece. Mario 64 I had played before it came out, yeah, it was called Lemmings 3D. very similar. Sorry but Mario64 was not a  technical masterpiece. GT3 has mindu-numbingly realistic car settings and weather effects, etc,etc, etc!

How many times have I beat Ganon? How many times have I beat Bowser? Mario 2 (NES) is getting re-released on GBA. WOW! that is the THIRD time we will have seen this game. SMB was rereleased 3 times. Mario Kart is getting the rerelease, same with F-Zero. You don\'t think Nintendo rehashes? You are living in a DREAM world! Kinda like NiGHTS, eh? Hahahaha! Now there was a fresh concept!

Eric Jacob

VF was the first polygon game

Star Fox.

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
GT3 is a technical masterpiece. Mario 64 I had played before it came out, yeah, it was called Lemmings 3D. very similar. Sorry but Mario64 was not a  technical masterpiece. GT3 has mindu-numbingly realistic car settings and weather effects, etc,etc, etc!

I am not saying that GT3 was a bad game it was just the same thing over and over. Next release more cars, more tracks, prettier graphics. Oooh that is incredible. To compare Lemmings 3D to Mario 64 is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. It is obvious that you have a crippling bias against Nintendo that is preventing you from seeing that they are one of the best developers ever.

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
How many times have I beat Ganon? How many times have I beat Bowser? Mario 2 (NES) is getting re-released on GBA. WOW! that is the THIRD time we will have seen this game. SMB was rereleased 3 times. Mario Kart is getting the rerelease, same with F-Zero. You don\'t think Nintendo rehashes? You are living in a DREAM world! Kinda like NiGHTS, eh? Hahahaha! Now there was a fresh concept!

Eric Jacob

How many times have I kicked that guy in the head with my polygonal foot?  How many times have I driven around in a circle? A lot more times than I have fought Ganon and Bowser. I\'ll admit that the storyline for the Mario games are almost always exactly the same, but I will do no such thing when it comes to Zelda. Albeit there are many of the same characters. It is almost a new game every time. Just like the next Mario game and the Next Zelda game will be.

I didnt say they werent one of the best, I said they werent original. Like I said, its about physics and weather, etc in GT3. It isnt just about driving around in a circle.

I wasn\'t comparing Mario64 to Lemmings in terms of fun factor, Mario won that one easy, Mari64 isnt that technical when you add that a 3D platformer had been released already. So really Mario64 was not that technical.

Isnt the next Mario game actually a luigi game? Whoa! Nintendo is pulling a fast one on us. I bet we have to save Mario (been there) or rescue one of the many Mario World characters (done that).

Eric Jacob

According to IGN Mario came out "September 26, 1996" while Lemmings 3D came out May 26, 1997. What is the correlation between the two?

[EDIT] Didn\'t Lemmings have a lot of Sprites like Duke Nukem?

You know I meant first poly fighting game. and Star Fox was no where near being the first polygon game. Virtua Racing, Hard Drivin, Slipheed, blah, blah blah, I dont really need to go on.

Eric Jacob

It\'s no secret... Sony(aside from the 989 mishap) is the winner!