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nintendo = dropping the ball?

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« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2001, 06:03:19 PM »
Is this game originally called Conker? That was in development 2 years ago when GoldenEye was hot.I got the magazine...initially they said it was a 2 player decent game.

What is wrong with being cute and decent like Banjo Twee? I mean are the developers going nuts or what ..you don\'t have to make games that seems abusive to attract peoples attention.

This game doesn\'t seem funny to me.

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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2001, 06:24:31 PM »
My opinion is pretty split on this game.  

First of all, to set things straight, Nintendo now lets Rare publish all its games in the United States.  So Conker was and still is going to be published by Rare, though definitely with Nintendo\'s blessing.  As for the THQ deal, that\'s just in Europe.  Nintendo of Europe is extremely weak as a distributor, so they\'re letting THQ distribute the game and handle the complex localization details.

So I haven\'t lost any respect for Nintendo because they\'re not publishing this game, because they basically are.  My problem is with the game itself.  Why is Nintendo encouraging one of its second parties to make this game?  The humor seems really lowbrow, and the huge "M" rating is pretty ironic, because it is probably the least mature game ever made.  I mean, what\'s up with the farting and poop humor?  That\'s the kind of stuff that appeals to adolescents, not the "over 17" market that Nintendo usually targets.  

On the plus side, the game is getting some impressive reviews, and they seem to indicate that it\'s a definite break from Rare\'s tedious platformers.  I played some Banjo-Kazooie and DK64, and they had nice graphics, but they were some of the worst games ever.  So at least Conker\'s not that.  And the Matrix-spoofing scenes look pretty cool.

So it could be decent, or it could really suck.  I just hope Nintendo doesn\'t think this suddenly makes them mature.  Unpredictable maybe, but not mature.

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« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2001, 09:21:56 PM »
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I mean, what\'s up with the farting and poop humor? That\'s the kind of stuff that appeals to adolescents, not the "over 17" market that Nintendo usually targets.

There is more to the game then just farting and poop. There is also VERY strong language, lots of blood, VERY mature humour(Conker pissing out a fire), crude jokes, ect.


Holy ****! What a great new pic!!! Thanks.

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« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2001, 09:26:35 PM »
LOL!!!! I love the pic...I\'m going to pick up the game this weekend...

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« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2001, 09:34:18 PM »
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its like the pionner og consoles, it came out before ps, sega, its cool


how dare u say that?

sega = the pioneer of consoles

it was thier downfall also.  

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« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2001, 09:44:56 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2001, 01:10:37 AM »
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Originally posted by Jumpman

There is more to the game then just farting and poop. There is also VERY strong language, lots of blood, VERY mature humour(Conker pissing out a fire), crude jokes, ect.


Holy ****! What a great new pic!!! Thanks.


Wow! A Matrix spoof! I\'m amazed. :rolleyes:

Blood?!? No way! Mortal Kombat had that. Infact, I think Mortal Kombat Gold had it, wait, yeah it did. I better go rush and like that game! And D2, it had cussing! I love that game!

Seriously, the gameplay may be great. But, I am not amazed with the stupid humor. Matrix spoofs? It was stupid in "Scarey Movie" and the other fifty movies that spoofed it. I don\'t see it being so amusing in a video game either. Farting and cussing? Oh and smoking! Not amazing, I\'m sorry.

Here is the funny part. Jumpman keeps bringing up how reviewers are hailing Conkers has a great game, therefor it must be one. But, yet he says Rayman 2 was ****ty, but reviewers also loved that game. So, it must of been cool. Or could it be that reviewers just have opinions? And that Conkers could of came out with N64 trademark blurry textures, typical Rare gameplay and you\'d still hail it as a great game?

In my opinion, we have had this discussion before in the Off-Topic section. I\'ll rent Conkers, but I will not buy it. From what I read, the gameplay is suppose to be solid but short for someone who has a clue with platform games. Yes, it has multi-player modes, but I\'m not interested in them. Not to mention, I wouldn\'t be caught dead paying up to $60 dollars for a friggin\' game all because Nintendo refused to adopt the cd format.

And I\'ll show alot more interest in Nintendo home consoles when they treat them with proper respect like they did with the Super NES. But it seems all that "talent" and what not went into the GBA. Go figure.

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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2001, 01:27:53 AM »
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VERY mature humour(Conker pissing out a fire)...


Err, yes. There goes your credibility, buh-bye. Or then you were joking there?

Does anyone else find that sort of humor VERY mature? I prefer jokes with some originality and thought. Ones including inane usage of bodily extracts are more suited to some 12 year old pre-pubescent kids imo.
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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2001, 08:46:16 AM »
ye athis game just isn\'t all that to me

its just another Nintendo platformer and i am not much of a platformer fan so i just don\'t like them

nothing against nintendo - i think they will do a great job this time around
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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2001, 09:59:04 AM »
Nintendo is trying for the last and final time ( I HOPE ) to marry the adults to its side by splashing CBFD into the markets.

But what is that game about?

It is just the final rope thrown out of the swamp where N64 sank long time ago, and we\'ve known for long time that it won\'t get up from there. Not even with the aid of Bad Fur Day.

The game is about overstuffed violence and pervertic quotes. Does this represent mature humor in you? Is this really the game wich adults will love?

Rare was stupid. I completely agree with mm. Nintendo lost ALL the respect I had in it. And N64 stays "kiddish" ( the ppl won\'t forget the tag for one game, if they even care about N64 anymore ).

This game is just SO made. Made just to show all those whom accuse N64 is console for kids. Everything is thrown too far, and the rope doesn\'t catch the tree it was meant to. I watched the trailer, for pure interest. Ok, a hot chick. So what? Does it convince me to spend a helluva pile of cash to a game? No.

Then I see some shots of the game. All I see is violence far too over the lines. Violence wich is too shown. Violence wich is just shown because Nintendo wants to show it ain\'t a company for kids.

And all this for nothing. Boy how nintendo can be stupid... Rare should\'ve left the project of BFD long time ago, when they still could...
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« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2001, 11:05:24 AM »
To LIC and Hawke- have you actually seen any movies of this game? I doubt it. The humor involves ****, testes, pusss.......tit..... you get the point. A little kid wouldn\'t understand that kind of humor. Only an adult would.

Why did Rare make this game? Because they wanted to let developers know that any type of game could be done on Nintendo\'s system.

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« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2001, 11:15:54 AM »
****s, tits, and pussy oh my :rolleyes:

Just because only an adult might undertand it does not make it mature at all, Conkers isn\'t comedic in anyway its actually very immature from what i\'ve seen.

The ONE AND ONLY thing I thought was even remotely amusing abotu the thing was the video where the bee polinates the flower and they do a zoom in on conkers face where he is showing disgust. I\'ll admit I chuckled there but thats it. The blood looks like gobs of something and not actual blood...it looks like it comes out in blocks so that don\'t make it much more hardcore/mature of a game IMO.

I\'m not here to argue but your sense of humour seems to differ with the general majority.
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« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2001, 02:27:53 PM »
Why does everyone keep saying that Nintendo made this game???

Nintendo didn\'t make it, because Rare made the game.

Oh well, I agree with everyone else (except the hating Nintendo part), that Conker is indeed immature.

Face it folks, if you want a mature themed game on a Nintendo console you\'ll have to wait for Eternal Darkness (N64) or GC.

Specifically, Too Human (GC) is what I\'m talking about.

Everyone who has a PSOne should know what Too Human is.

After all, it was supposed to be a system seller.  Right?  So, that should at least get your attention.


Also, EmperRob, it looks like you didn\'t exactly understand what I was saying.

See, you are biased, and I was saying that I was glad I wasn\'t biased like you.

 Also, how did I take any of what you said personally?  Why would I take the word of a fanboy seriously?
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« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2001, 03:22:16 PM »
Movie spoofs, sexual jokes, ciggs, pissing on things is NOT mature. Its 5th grade humor. No, Nintendo did not make this game. But lets face it, they had been very controlling on mature games, but this one slipped by? It couldn\'t be an effort to say "We\'re mature, damnit!" now could it?

While an excellent game it may be. It could of been just as excellent without the stupid moronic humor. But then no one would of cared, would they? It would of been just another typical release from Rare.

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"I think the game will suck anyway just like about 80% of the rest of the trash for N64. Oooohhh Aaahhhh it\'s a squirrel that cusses."

 I don\'t think you\'ve read much about this game or the reviews for this game--Its been getting great reviews from nearly everyone who has reviewed it (the one major downfall being its relatively short life). Like all games, everyone won’t like it, but from whats been shown so far, Conker will not be a sucky game.

Besides, CBFD is more than the average platformer from Rare. Its new, its different, and it doesn\'t involve endless collecting and repetitiveness.  

"That game looks alot like all the other platform games on n64."

 Maybe it does look like this at first, but after I have read up on the game, I see that its very different and not just another Banjo clone. It really isn’t just another platformer.

"It\'s been a long time coming, but finally the collection of heart pieces, rings, stars, and jiggies has an alternative in Conker\'s quest for cash. "       --Gamespot


"sega = the pioneer of consoles

it was thier downfall also.

nintendo = sit back, wait, and copy"



Right...


"Wow! A Matrix spoof! I\'m amazed.

Blood?!? No way! Mortal Kombat had that. Infact, I think Mortal Kombat Gold had it, wait, yeah it did. I better go rush and like that game! And D2, it had cussing! I love that game!

Seriously, the gameplay may be great. But, I am not amazed with the stupid humor. Matrix spoofs? It was stupid in "Scarey Movie" and the other fifty movies that spoofed it. I don\'t see it being so amusing in a video game either. Farting and cussing? Oh and smoking! Not amazing, I\'m sorry."


 So maybe the game is not for you--however, there are people that will enjoy this game, I\'m sure. The thing that was funny about the spoofs was that there was one after another (ie: saving private ryan, matrix, etc...) in a very comical and ironic form. The point isn’t that theres blood or cussing in CBFD—Its that it has everying from cussing, blood, sexual explicit, etc… to toilet humor….

"And that Conkers could of came out with N64 trademark blurry textures, typical Rare gameplay and you\'d still hail it as a great game?"

Its nice you say "could of came out", because, not only does Conker have some of the best gfx seen so far on the N64, but it strays from the familiar Rare platformer (which is a good thing).

"In my opinion, we have had this discussion before in the Off-Topic section. I\'ll rent Conkers, but I will not buy it. From what I read, the gameplay is suppose to be solid but short for someone who has a clue with platform games. Yes, it has multi-player modes, but I\'m not interested in them. Not to mention, I wouldn\'t be caught dead paying up to $60 dollars for a friggin\' game all because Nintendo refused to adopt the cd format."

 I won\'t buy the game, I might not even rent it. However, I would suggest that this is the way to go, renting the game, because they say its easily beatable in around 15 hours.

"And I\'ll show alot more interest in Nintendo home consoles when they treat them with proper respect like they did with the Super NES. But it seems all that "talent" and what not went into the GBA. Go figure."

 Right--Now Nintendo isn\'t showing \'proper respect\' to their consoles? Theres a new one.
 
    And now all their talent has gone into the GBA? Hmmmm…

"Nintendo is trying for the last and final time ( I HOPE ) to marry the adults to its side by splashing CBFD into the markets."

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Nintendo did acquire the Canadian developer (now 2nd party) Silicon Knights, which will be releasing games targeted for the older market (And no, they won\'t release games like CBFD) such as Too Human and Eternal Darkness (rpgs)

Also, you are right that Nintendo is trying to make a point…However, I don’t think it’s the point you think.

"It is just the final rope thrown out of the swamp where N64 sank long time ago, and we\'ve known for long time that it won\'t get up from there. Not even with the aid of Bad Fur Day."

Its way too late for the N64 to change around (especially with what? 5 games in its life left?). I don\'t think thats what they\'re saying. I think it was more of a statement that Nintendo has changed from their old ways (such as cencorship, etc...). They will allow these type of games on the market.

"From what I can tell, it appears to be a game developed solely to send the following message out to the world: Nintendo and Rare are not all about kiddie games."

“Third-party publishers now know that if they make a game with suggestive themes, that game may now appear on Nintendo consoles."

 --Gamespot

 I think that’s more of the point they were trying to make.


"The game is about overstuffed violence and pervertic quotes. Does this represent mature humor in you? Is this really the game wich adults will love?"

It is about all that stuff… Crude and toilet humor, etc… but it is still funny to certain people nonetheless.

"I thought what I saw of Conker\'s BFD was crude, base, gratuitously violent, and knee-slappingly hysterical. Anyone 18 to 30 with a penchant for vulgarity and pop culture references will likely find it to be the same. With this said, there is no doubt in my mind that this is a game that is totally inappropriate for kids."  -Gamespot

 

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