Xbox Pictures!!! What A Disappointment...Really.

[Living-In-Clip]

Originally posted by ElAsesino
It looks pretty good for first generation games, and I don\'t understand why you guys are complaining.

I mean you guys are being hypocrites.  About 5 or 6 months ago, you were saying that the PS2 graphics would get better over time even though they were sub-par.

Now that XBox is here, you are saying it will be crappy.

I don\'t understand you guys.  It\'s like you are fanboys or something.

Not all are. I\'m not, OOseven, Ddaryl, Altered and others aren\'t. But, some it looks to be.

I have to agree though. When all the DC fans was making fun of the PS2 because the graphics wasn\'t a big leap from the DC if at all, the big thing was "its unfinished hardware" or "It\'ll get better in time". But, now its them making fun of the Xbox none of that seems to matter. They are judging an Xbox game by pictures alone, that isn\'t even a full first generation title. It still has quite awhile to go in development.

In my opinion, practice what you preach.

The X-Box graphics are really good, thank god I pre-ordered mines this weekend.

Originally posted by DirectXbox
Wait a minute...are you calling these shots "disappointing"?  Wow.  I always underestimated the will of fanboys...never again though.















All the demos you saw were running on Phase 2 Xboxes (i.e. GeForce3 powered).  We\'ve yet to see the potential of the Xbox.

DirectXbox is correct........WAIT UNTIL YOU FEEL THE WRATH OF XBOX......    


i know this is a PS2 forum......I fully support the PS2..... because this forum has room for Unbiased people right?

Please can we move this one through to the console debating section of the site, this is for PS2 news after all.

The same gose fpr the other X box related Threads

THANKS  Admins and Mods

// OOSEVEN

I think the media makes this x-Box appearence very mis-leading. Those are early pre-beta screenshots, nothing is final. If that is GeForce 3 powered, that\'s a mere lie on behalf of the people saying "Yeah that\'s GeForce 3 graphics for you! They suck!". That\'s maybe using .5% of the GeForce 3\'s potiental right there. I mean look at the textures. All blocky, hardly any FSAA. And your talking to a company who\'s moving at lightspeed to near photo realisitc realism in terms of graphics.


My word if advise, don\'t take ANYTHING the media and community is saying about this looking like final. These are first hand screenshots! GeForce 3! This had better not be true, this will really put nVidia fully responsible for x-Box\'s first embarrassement if those screens are true progress shots. But I doubt it, GeForce 3\'s hardware is too advanced to be displaying 8-bit textures and no FSAA.

jm

Ahh......Damm!  I though it was on the X-Box hardware...

[nO-One]

History repeates it self
First the PS.2 is going to be the most powerful.It doesn\'t live up to the hype.Then the X-Box will destroy the competion and it doesn\'t seem to be living up the it\'s hype.
These are the graphics I expected from the X-Box,I am neither over nor underwhelmed.But the games will look better,just as with the PS.2.Look at RR V and those early games and compare them to MGS.2 and GT.3.
I think the graphics are OK for the 1st generation games.

The shots are early and decent looking and according to some, not even on final hardware. The haters will hate, but get no respect from me....

DirectXbox,i don\'t think anyone saying they\'re disappointed with those pics,but lets get real here,the game doesn\'t surpass GT3 in looks (at this point) even with all the extra polygons and whatever extra effects (yea i know,it is imcomplete dev kits but lets get real some more because no magic wand is gonna\' wave over this game and somehow mysteriously change the game\'s appearence to a whole new better game than what we see here)

another thing about those pics that is disturbing,Xbox is supposed to display lots more poly\'s then why is that game still using the same cardboard box style buildings as they did in the MSR Dreamcast game!!?? there is barely any kind of polygon use,it\'s majorily flat!! that is almost insulting to me,all this claim of mega polygons over other next gen consoles and this game (i do not want to hear anybody say, \'well it\'s still early in development" because that should of been implimented into the game well before they put in the effects and textures) shows mild use of polygons at best.

Originally posted by ooseven


i dont know what you are all talking about those shot\'s are the best i have ever seen.

PARIS never looks soo GOOD !

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I am in Seattle right now and couldn\'t seem to get my PW but I am Ho3j and very sleepy so forgive any oddness  Anyway...

I just wanted to say that I think it is great that you are all comparing PG to GT3!  PG has been in development for 4 weeks and only 2 of those with dev kits! 4 weeks of dev time and we already have a playable demo and see comparisons to GT3!

Also... I have been checking out the shots that were released and they do not do Azurik justice at all.  The metal of his armor is just jaw-dropping to watch as its reflective nature plays with the world around it.  His enimies are so cool looking and vibrant etc... (again, very sleepy and very excited   )  Basicly just use the shots of it as a reference for basic gameplay but not graphics.

Also, Halo is oh so sweet  I cannot wait till everyone can see the muzzle of the gun light up the dark halls and reveal these amazingly bump mapped walls (for those making the PC coments I use a PIII 933, 256meg/sys, geforce 2 w/64meg DDR o/c\'d to 410mhz and nothing touches the things I saw today).  AI is excellent and is aware of its surrounding so they enemycan look for a safe spot to shoot at you from.  Oh!  And everyone (including myself) seemed to pick up the control scheme in no time so that should not be a concern.

I didn\'t pay much attention to the Foot Ball game because that is simply not my thing  However,  I was very impressed with the moving eyes and the way snow collects on the field and then lets the players leave footprints.

Ack  More of a rant/rave but I wanted to mention the PG thing and then just kind of went off.

And seeing how none of this games where running on final hardware they look pretty good. Nfl fever looked awesome to only be on half of xbox\'s power. I think as more time is put into these games they will look even better and amped look so awesome:D

[BizioEE]

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
What do you expect from the first software titles? Give me a break, the first batch of PS2 games looked like poo and not much better and sometimes worse then a  DC (case and point: Summoner!!!!). Just now is the PS2 actually showing any signs of life and that is only with a few games. You cannot expect MS to have some magic ball and developers to have first generation software that looks like fourth generation software.

Well...not exactly Living-In-Clip...X-Box is said to be easier to develop for than PS2 and developers know how to program a P3 and a GPU like Invidia\'s...PS2 is a totally new hardware,ways more difficult to develop for than the DC...so at first developers haven\'t even scratch the surface of the hardware!  "PS2 vs DC" at first was a different situation than this and even actually developers haven\'t push the PS2.......so now....I have only a question.....is X-Box so powerful and easy to develop for as Microsoft say?

Originally posted by MeTaL=DeaTh
another thing about those pics that is disturbing,Xbox is supposed to display lots more poly\'s then why is that game still using the same cardboard box style buildings as they did in the MSR Dreamcast game!!?? there is barely any kind of polygon use,it\'s majorily flat!! that is almost insulting to me,all this claim of mega polygons over other next gen consoles and this game (i do not want to hear anybody say, \'well it\'s still early in development" because that should of been implimented into the game well before they put in the effects and textures) shows mild use of polygons at best.

From Videogames.com:
The Xbox game will include new tracks based in New York City, joining a roster of city courses that are based in San Francisco, London, and Tokyo. Bizarre Creations, in typical style, has sent members of the development team to New York City to photograph and map out actual landmarks and streets--in all, the development team took over 50,000 photographs of the four cities in order to accurately capture every bit of detail possible. However, the build shown was very early--the game has only been in development for a handful of months--and parts of the New York City course didn\'t have texture maps in place. In fact, Bizarre Creations had placeholder 2D bitmaps in place for certain ambient environmental objects, which in the final game will be rendered in full 3D.

That expanation good enough for you?  The game is extremely early and on unfinished dev kits running at 50% total power, so what else should you expect.  This was put together to show off the GF3 effects in the game.  I\'d rather see this, than cars against a blue screen.  The fact of the matter is that half a game on half an Xbox still looks better than a whole game on a whole PS2.  That says a lot.